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Random
10-02-2013, 19:30
I've never used a two stage trigger on an AR, so I really don't know what to expect, other than apparently the first and second stage both have pull weights.

My two stage RRA trigger feels like a sloppy single stage; pull until you meet resistance, then wait for the click. I'm getting the impression that's not how its supposed to work.

Anyone have any thoughts on what, if anything can be done to make it a real two stage? Sacrifice a virgin shell casing on an alter of molten Glock parts, maybe?

kwando
10-02-2013, 21:16
My SSAs first stage is the take up (2.5lbs), then you hit the wall, then a clean break for stage 2 (2lbs). Never felt a RRA

XC700116
10-02-2013, 22:05
The RRA ones typically have a distinct 2 stages, and are normally a decent trigger. Only thing I can think of is spring or something hanging up in it. have you tried pulling it out and making sure it doesn't have any junk in it and has a little lubrication in it?

Tim K
10-03-2013, 05:57
Your description sounds about right. After you get through the first stage it should feel like a single stage.

Random
10-03-2013, 10:24
It sounds like the next step (which should have been the previous step) is to get the guage out and see how much force is required to take up the "slop"; it isn't much, but Kwando's description is pretty much spot on; some take up, then a "wall" that feels like a single stage. When I shoot it I just sit at that wall and squeeeze...

airborneranger
10-03-2013, 14:14
I have RRA trigger and I like it.

Random
10-03-2013, 18:02
I have RRA trigger and I like it.

I'll buy that. 2.5 lb stage 1, 3.75 lb stage 2 vs ~5lb for a mil-spec. The bad news is it isn't very smooth, but the next time I have my polishing stuff out (very soon now) I'll put a mirror finish on all the contact points without removing much material.

Thanks everyone, NOW I know what 2 stage means!

airborneranger
10-03-2013, 19:22
I'll buy that. 2.5 lb stage 1, 3.75 lb stage 2 vs ~5lb for a mil-spec. The bad news is it isn't very smooth, but the next time I have my polishing stuff out (very soon now) I'll put a mirror finish on all the contact points without removing much material.

Thanks everyone, NOW I know what 2 stage means!

I bought mine from a local shop for 100 bucks installed. I wasn't sure how I would like a 2 stage trigger but it is surprisingly nice. If you want nice, controlled shots, you have tht option. Rapid fire is nice too!



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BPTactical
10-04-2013, 09:23
When you say "Polish", leave the Dremel alone. A very light stoning on the engagement surfaces with a white india stone is all you need, if even that.
RR are good triggers and really a good cleaning and a dab of grease on the contact points is all you need, it will smooth up with use.

Random
10-04-2013, 10:44
The current plan is to use the same stuff I use to polish plastics in the shop...starts finer than anything most people have and ends looking like fabric, but leaves a mirror finish when you're done. I was going to either put the polishing cloths on my granite flat plate or use something suitably hard to back them up. Should be able to leave a mirror finish without removing more than the material above the median scratch. I want to attack some Austrian trigger parts that look like they were stamped by Donald Duck as well; I hear putting a polish on the mating surfaces can remove some of that Teutonic grittiness in the action.

Given the possibility this has been used in a 22 upper, and even though I would flush it all out very carefully after each use if that were the case, there is also the potential for ground glass from the primer mucking up the works. It might be worth using this elsewhere and putting a single stage in anything that gets regularly sand-blasted.

Thanks for the heads-up on the Dremel; I wouldn't use one for something like this; not enough control on small parts, but it's always good to bring it up!

BPTactical
10-04-2013, 10:51
Your not going to be able to get to your engagement surfaces with a flat plate, you only have about 1/4" of space to work in.
You need stones, that is the only way you will be able to keep the edges crisp.