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<MADDOG>
10-08-2013, 21:14
Gentlemen; if you have not watched or read this speech; I encourage you to do so. In all honesty, I have not read the entire speech before today; and while I was chasing panties at the time of his presidency, I do find the parallels of what he was describing in the mid 60's uncanny to our world now. IMO, there are many similarities, and these are the starting few:

"But I have an uncomfortable feeling that this prosperity isn't something on which we can base our hopes for the future. No nation in history has ever survived a tax burden that reached a third of its national income. Today, 37 cents out of every dollar earned in this country is the tax collector's share, and yet our government continues to spend 17 million dollars a day more than the government takes in. We haven't balanced our budget 28 out of the last 34 years. We've raised our debt limit three times in the last twelve months, and now our national debt is one and a half times bigger than all the combined debts of all the nations of the world. We have 15 billion dollars in gold in our treasury; we don't own an ounce. Foreign dollar claims are 27.3 billion dollars. And we've just had announced that the dollar of 1939 will now purchase 45 cents in its total value".

"As for the peace that we would preserve, I wonder who among us would like to approach the wife or mother whose husband or son has died in South Vietnam and ask them if they think this is a peace that should be maintained indefinitely. Do they mean peace, or do they mean we just want to be left in peace? There can be no real peace while one American is dying some place in the world for the rest of us. We're at war with the most dangerous enemy that has ever faced mankind in his long climb from the swamp to the stars, and it's been said if we lose that war, and in so doing lose this way of freedom of ours, history will record with the greatest astonishment that those who had the most to lose did the least to prevent its happening. Well I think it's time we ask ourselves if we still know the freedoms that were intended for us by the Founding Fathers".

"This is the issue of this election: Whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we abandon the American revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in a far-distant capitol can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them ourselves.

You and I are told increasingly we have to choose between a left or right. Well I'd like to suggest there is no such thing as a left or right. There's only an up or down—[up] man's old—old-aged dream, the ultimate in individual freedom consistent with law and order, or down to the ant heap of totalitarianism. And regardless of their sincerity, their humanitarian motives, those who would trade our freedom for security have embarked on this downward course".

"In this vote-harvesting time, they use terms like the "Great Society," or as we were told a few days ago by the President, we must accept a greater government activity in the affairs of the people. But they've been a little more explicit in the past and among themselves; and all of the things I now will quote have appeared in print. These are not Republican accusations. For example, they have voices that say, "The cold war will end through our acceptance of a not undemocratic socialism." Another voice says, "The profit motive has become outmoded. It must be replaced by the incentives of the welfare state." Or, "Our traditional system of individual freedom is incapable of solving the complex problems of the 20th century." Senator Fullbright has said at Stanford University that the Constitution is outmoded. He referred to the President as "our moral teacher and our leader," and he says he is "hobbled in his task by the restrictions of power imposed on him by this antiquated document." He must "be freed," so that he "can do for us" what he knows "is best." And Senator Clark of Pennsylvania, another articulate spokesman, defines liberalism as "meeting the material needs of the masses through the full power of centralized government."

Well, I, for one, resent it when a representative of the people refers to you and me, the free men and women of this country, as "the masses." This is a term we haven't applied to ourselves in America. But beyond that, "the full power of centralized government"—this was the very thing the Founding Fathers sought to minimize. They knew that governments don't control things. A government can't control the economy without controlling people. And they know when a government sets out to do that, it must use force and coercion to achieve its purpose. They also knew, those Founding Fathers, that outside of its legitimate functions, government does nothing as well or as economically as the private sector of the economy".

For those of you who may wish to read it the speech in its entirety:

http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/reference/timechoosing.html

For those of you who may wish to watch:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXBswFfh6AY

OtterbatHellcat
10-08-2013, 21:22
Hell yeah....thanks for posting that.

ZERO THEORY
10-08-2013, 21:24
I'm definitely not a Reagan fan. And considering what kind of shit he was up to behind the curtains, it's painfully ironic. But if I forget that these are Reagan's words, then they're pretty relevant to our downward spiral.

BushMasterBoy
10-08-2013, 21:24
I remember when this idiot said "I have outlawed Russia forever and the bombing starts in 5 minutes". I was in Europe and the USAF flew me to Offut AFB in under 7 hours in a KC-135...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_begin_bombing_in_five_minutes

Citizen_Soldier
10-08-2013, 21:29
I wasn't even a thought when that speech was given, but wow it sounds almost like it was written yesterday. Funny how history repeats itself.

OtterbatHellcat
10-08-2013, 21:34
IMO...Reagan did some good stuff that got this country going again.

I liked what I read in the OP

<MADDOG>
10-08-2013, 21:35
Point of post: the speech and it's relevance from 50 years ago .

I am of the firm belief that most politicians become"tainted", but that's a total different discussion...

<MADDOG>
10-08-2013, 21:51
I remember when this idiot said "I have outlawed Russia forever and the bombing starts in 5 minutes". I was in Europe and the USAF flew me to Offut AFB in under 7 hours in a KC-135...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_begin_bombing_in_five_minutes

I appreciate the context of your point; however Clinton had me sitting on a tarmac many times in the early 90's with a final ending in a eastern european ex-Warsaw Pact country with little hope. Did I mention Somalia or Haiti...

Again; I am not trying to embellish any presidency over another; I am merely trying to to highlight the contrasts of the past...

wctriumph
10-09-2013, 11:33
No one is perfect, especially those that see themselves as "in charge" of the country today.