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tmleadr03
10-14-2013, 14:18
On my phone so its the mobile site sorry about that.
http://m.nydailynews.com/1.1484953
Fentonite
10-14-2013, 14:21
Thieves. Plain and simple.
sellersm
10-14-2013, 14:37
There were no injuries or arrests after the feeding frenzy caused by a power outage during a routine maintenance test by Xerox of their government-funded debit cards.
Ummm, sure, yeah, that's the story and they're sticking to it! And these people will run the healthcare exchange?
sellersm
10-14-2013, 14:38
Are they going to press charges? Could we get away with this type of thing if this happened with our 'bank cards'?
kidicarus13
10-14-2013, 14:45
The same state where Katrina riots occurred and the Superdome was ransacked and nearly destroyed? Noooooooo
SuperiorDG
10-14-2013, 14:50
Are they going to press charges? Could we get away with this type of thing if this happened with our 'bank cards'?
No freken way, on both questions.
Imagine what will happen if all the EBT cards are shut off for even a day. [shithitsfan]
SuperiorDG
10-14-2013, 15:00
Imagine what will happen if all the EBT cards are shut off for even a day. [shithitsfan]
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/10/12/computer-upgrade-blamed-for-nationwide-ebt-system-shutdown-on-saturday/
“That’s a problem. There are a lot of families who are not going to be able to feed children because the system is being maintenanced,” Colman said. She planned to reach out to local officials. “You don’t want children going hungry tonight because of stupidity,” she said.
Imagine what will happen if all the EBT cards are shut off for even a day. [shithitsfan]
Is it bad if I smile when I think about that?
KestrelBike
10-14-2013, 15:10
If they could track down every single one of those ebt users who took advantage of that error and deport them to, I don't know, some abandoned village in rural Siberia, the US would be immeasurably better off.
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Aloha_Shooter
10-14-2013, 15:11
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/10/12/computer-upgrade-blamed-for-nationwide-ebt-system-shutdown-on-saturday/
“That’s a problem. There are a lot of families who are not going to be able to feed children because the system is being maintenanced,” Colman said. She planned to reach out to local officials. “You don’t want children going hungry tonight because of stupidity,” she said.
How about people plan ahead and get some damned food the day before the shutdown? How about they go visit a soup kitchen if they're really that destitute? How about they get a damned job instead of leeching off everyone else?
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/10/12/computer-upgrade-blamed-for-nationwide-ebt-system-shutdown-on-saturday/
“That’s a problem. There are a lot of families who are not going to be able to feed children because the system is being maintenanced,” Colman said. She planned to reach out to local officials. “You don’t want children going hungry tonight because of stupidity,” she said.
WOW...Did anyone else read through the comments on this link? UGLY...
StagLefty
10-14-2013, 15:32
Like one guy on the radio asked-don't they have fridges and pantries ? No food in the house to last a few days ?
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Reminds me of politicians and their spending habits....aint my money, toss another 0 on the end and hook me up with a nice vacation to hawaii with some golf! Happens at all levels.
sellersm
10-14-2013, 16:01
Reminds me of politicians and their spending habits....aint my money, toss another 0 on the end and hook me up with a nice vacation to hawaii with some golf! Happens at all levels.
Exactly! People are people. There is no "us" and "them". These supposed "elitists" are nothing more than thugs, criminals, shoplifters and looters who wear suits and enjoy special privileges. The sooner folks realize this, the better...
so there are records of every one of these purchases right? and they will at minimum be docked against future bennies right?
jerrymrc
10-14-2013, 16:37
If they are smart about it all purchases will be deducted from future benefits until the bill is paid. As was said all the transactions were recorded so it is not like the gal that had $700 in her cart and only .29 cents on the card could claim she did not know.
I can hear the howls next month already. After seeing an article about how the poor woman was going to live on a reduction from $800 to like $625 in food stamps I about fell out of my chair. I know the wife and I spend about $150-$175 a month and eat just fine. I know I can feed a family of 5 for no more than $500
Just for fun since I am feeding 4 adults and 2 kids tonight I added it up. Dinner for 6 came out to $6.59 and I splurged. I also buy on sale and stock up when I can.
If they could track down every single one of those ebt users who took advantage of that error and deport them to, I don't know, some abandoned village in rural Siberia, the US would be immeasurably better off.
It was called Liberia. [LOL]
RonMexico
10-14-2013, 16:39
I wonder if it allowed you to purchase other things too. Have one of those slackers buy all the ammo in the store and then sell it for 75% off in the parking lot. I could use a few cases of 556 for sub $100.
Walmart shoppers cleared shelves and filled shopping carts to overflow after a software snafu removed spending limits from their EBT cards.
Same
Normal
All
F%#*&@
Up
We can expect this to become the norm?
Theft, plain and simple. Everything should be recorded and those that abused it should be disqualified from any further benefits.
What am I saying...?! Like that will ever happen.
Edit: Better?
clublights
10-14-2013, 17:26
Same
as
Normal
all
F%#*&@
Up
We can expect this to become the norm?
Theft, plain and simple. Everything should be recorded and those that abused it should be disqualified from any further benefits.
What am I saying...?! Like that will ever happen.
I always thought it was "Situation Normal, All F*cked Up"
I always thought it was "Situation Normal, All F*cked Up"
Thats how I read it.
theGinsue
10-14-2013, 18:14
Are they going to press charges? Could we get away with this type of thing if this happened with our 'bank cards'?
Let me answer this question with another question.
Let's say the bank made an error and credited your account with $1,000,000. What would happen to you if you withdrew that $1,000,000 and spent it? You would go to prison for theft. So, how is this EBT thing any different?
Let me answer this question with another question.
Let's say the bank made an error and credited your account with $1,000,000. What would happen to you if you withdrew that $1,000,000 and spent it? You would go to prison for theft. So, how is this EBT thing any different?
these poor people are downtrodden on their luck. We should reward them for their ingenuity. They all got on their obamaphones, hopped on the bus or walked from their government assistance housing and stockpiled on everything they could fit in their carts!
SuperiorDG
10-15-2013, 11:51
https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1393794_573256946061808_1233809905_n.jpg
http://investmentwatchblog.com/families-on-food-stamps-could-be-cut-off-soon-no-funds-for-november/
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-15/foodstamp-program-shutdown-imminent (http://investmentwatchblog.com/families-on-food-stamps-could-be-cut-off-soon-no-funds-for-november/)
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2013/10/Foodstamp%20USDA%20Letter.jpg
stoner01
10-15-2013, 12:03
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-15/foodstamp-program-shutdown-imminent
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2013/10/Foodstamp%20USDA%20Letter.jpg
Is this how the riots will start
Is this how the riots will start
They have energy to riot but no energy for working.
sellersm
10-15-2013, 12:06
Well, isn't that a nice memo?
If they could track down every single one of those ebt users who took advantage of that error and deport them to, I don't know, some abandoned village in rural Siberia, the US would be immeasurably better off.
It was called Liberia. [LOL]
/thread
This is how the riots will start
FIFY
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sellersm
10-15-2013, 13:08
I wonder if that memo is related to this article, from the 2009 "Recovery Act", SNAP benefits were to be reduced 11/1/2013: http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=3899
I wonder if that memo is related to this article, from the 2009 "Recovery Act", SNAP benefits were to be reduced 11/1/2013: http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=3899
Hmmm, I wonder too.
I love paying taxes so sub-humans can get free shit.
I don't think they're less than human. They certainly follow human nature and will exploit whatever they think they can get away with.
I don't think they're less than human. They certainly follow human nature and will exploit whatever they think they can get away with.
Definitions can vary.
I expect a certain level of behavior from people, these people do not meet that expectation. Yes, I am disappointed every day by the actions of people, I really should lower my expectations substantially.
OTOH, These people are the same ones that will kick in your door, murder you and your family, just to get something you have and they want. They are the enemy and I think trouble is coming our way so I am getting mentally ready for the fight and describing them as less than human helps to prepare me for that fight.
BushMasterBoy
10-15-2013, 18:04
Last I heard Walmart is out the money for this clusterf&*% and Xerox is saying it is Walmarts fault for not following emergency procedures i.e. $50 maximum purchases. But I believe some of you are right, that this is going to be in the future with riots. At some point the .gov is going to default, and if you don't have your own private army to protect you, you might possibly die.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/walmart-shelves-emptied-food-stamp-shopping-spree/story?id=20563982
Zundfolge
10-15-2013, 18:12
Last I heard Walmart is out the money for this clusterf&*% and Xerox is saying it is Walmarts fault for not following emergency procedures i.e. $50 maximum purchases.
I suspect the manager made the call to protect the lives of his employees and the property of Walmart as I don't doubt that crowd of losers would probably have turned violent when they were cut off at $50 each. It will likely cost him his job, but its probably the call I would have made too.
I don't think they're less than human. They certainly follow human nature and will exploit whatever they think they can get away with.
Agreed.
roberth, I certainly understand, but not everyone is that way and I think it is dangerous to paint with such a broad stroke
Let me answer this question with another question.
Let's say the bank made an error and credited your account with $1,000,000. What would happen to you if you withdrew that $1,000,000 and spent it? You would go to prison for theft. So, how is this EBT thing any different?
My thoughts exactly! Oh and strange coincidence, we just covered theft in the Academy this week- as far as it pertains to CRS.
Agreed.
roberth, I certainly understand, but not everyone is that way and I think it is dangerous to paint with such a broad stroke
No, everyone isn't that way. I'm just talking about those who took advantage of this situation. If they'll do that when presented with the opportunity, what will they do when they're presented with a different kind of opportunity. For example, while I'd like to think they'd pass on home invasion, I can't assume that they would pass on a home invasion. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
This is all very difficult for for me, I like trusting people, I like thinking that I can help someone with a flat tire and they won't try to bash my head in and steal my car. Many people deserve help because they are in a situation not of their own making or choosing, these people deserve our empathy and assistance. The difficult part is sorting out who is the good guy and who is the bad guy. I suppose we'll know who the bad guys are when we hear our neighbors house getting busted up and see the perps coming to our door.
The difficult part is sorting out who is the good guy and who is the bad guy.
If it was easy, everyone could do it. [Flower]
The problem I have is sometimes the good people do bad stuff and the bad people do good stuff. I wish they would just make up their minds and be consistent, like I am sometimes, but not always. [hammer]
If it was easy, everyone could do it. [Flower]
The problem I have is sometimes the good people do bad stuff and the bad people do good stuff. I wish they would just make up their minds and be consistent, like I am sometimes, but not always. [hammer]
...and another wrinkle gets thrown in. :)
Some folks have values that keep our base human nature in check. We can't assume those willing to live off the profit of others to have those values.
These transactions should be traceable back to whose card was used and what was purchased. Expecting any kind of accountability for our government dollars being pissed away? I'm not holding my breath.
OtterbatHellcat
10-15-2013, 20:42
IMO, it is human nature to be opportunist minded. That mentality equally benefits those on the dole, and those in big business....and everyone in between.
However, I completely agree with Roberths' interpretations, as mentioned.
Mob mentality for personal benefit or gain, as opposed to alternate methods of "rioting".....which usually ends up in thievery anyways.
Wish to God someone with balls would get elected President and cancel ALL entitlement programs. 3 generations and we'd have people in this country that couldnt fathom eating for free without working.
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I realize that our current prez acts like a king, but congress would have to legislate the end of entitlements. Ending entitlements are unpopular for almost 1/2 the population, so legislators whose only concern seems to be maintaining their power would never do it.
Some folks have values that keep our base human nature in check. We can't assume those willing to live off the profit of others to have those values.
These transactions should be traceable back to whose card was used and what was purchased. Expecting any kind of accountability for our government dollars being pissed away? I'm not holding my breath.
There won't be any accountability and that leads us to another facet of human nature. When bad behavior goes unpunished what do we get, witness illegal immigration, we get more and worse bad behavior.
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