15 round magazines.

[SideShow Bob]

For those of you that missed out on 30 round magazines and for those just looking to get 15 round magazines, try JoeBobs.
http://www.joeboboutfitters.com/15_30_MidwestPX_Magpul_M3_PMAG_Black_p/mwpx-1530m3blk.htm

[UrbanWolf]

Apparently, us in CO can't order blocked off mags yet, since out state gov't has specified what kind of blocking is required to be legal.

[Great-Kazoo]

Apparently, us in CO can't order blocked off mags yet, since out state gov't has specified what kind of blocking is required to be legal.

BS. Go to any LGS and see the blocked mags on the rack. However most vendors have found it easier to sell 10 rd mags only. Limits their liability.

[UrbanWolf]

BS. Go to any LGS and see the blocked mags on the rack. However most vendors have found it easier to sell 10 rd mags only. Limits their liability.

I hadn't seen any blocked mags in both LGS here.

[Great-Kazoo]

I hadn't seen any blocked mags in both LGS here.

Colorado's a bigger place than ft collins. Expand your horizons, outside the comfort zone.

[SideShow Bob]

Read the description in the ad, they not just blocked, the floor plate is permanayly attached and cannot be removed without rendering the magazine useless.

[mb504]

I hadn't seen any blocked mags in both LGS here.

Try PM Guns and Supplies off of South College at 125 Carpenter Road, Unit C Fort Collins, CO 80525.

He's got a bunch and seems like a guy that knows his stuff.

[LeftHandBlack]

I like the pmag 10 mags are havent used my 30s for awhile now. For target shooting they are plenty and if SHTF I will break out the 30s!

[KLR650]

so is a 15/30 p mag without a sealed floorplate considered readily convertible, or would you be saved by the fact you would essentially be ''destroying'' the magazine in order to convert it. I don't expect anyone here to know, the state legislator doesn't even know that shit. just food for thought.

[osok-308]

so is a 15/30 p mag without a sealed floorplate considered readily convertible, or would you be saved by the fact you would essentially be ''destroying'' the magazine in order to convert it. I don't expect anyone here to know, the state legislator doesn't even know that shit. just food for thought.

I am pretty sure that they actually require you to destroy parts of the mag in order to alter the capacity. I have a buddy who works at a gun shop in California and they have twenty rounders blocked off to make them ten round capacity.

[KLR650]

I'm intimately familiar with CA, i'm actually a refugee from there. I was curious if the new law was worded in a manner that let's you keep the floor plate removable... you know to clean and replace parts. I'm also know that the sheriffs helped with the rewording of the law and affected the "readily convertible" language... I'll look at the actual text of the law.

[KLR650]

This is the revised language of the bill per the AG:

"Magazines with a capacity of 15 or fewer rounds are not large capacity magazines as defined in HB 13-1224 whether or not they have removable base plates. These baseplates themselves do not enable the magazines to be expanded, and they serve functions aside from expansion—notable, they allow the magazines to be cleaned and repaired. To actually convert them to higher capacity, one must purchase additional equipment or permanently alter their operation mechanically. Unless so altered, they are not prohibited."

This seems to be saying if a mag can't accept more than 15 rds, then it is a 15rd mag. Overall I think this gives the green light to stick a mag limiter of some kind into a mag, without sealing the base plate. however the last part is a bit vague. What is the difference between "permanently" and temporarily "altering their operation"? conversely this could imply that a mag that requires a mag limiter to be legal, is still illegal? This law is still so confusing.

This is my opinion, this is not legal advice.

https://www.coloradoattorneygeneral.gov/press/news/2013/07/10/colorado_attorney_general_statement_withdrawal_mot ion_preliminary_injunction_g

[SAnd]

This is the revised language of the bill per the AG:

https://www.coloradoattorneygeneral.gov/press/news/2013/07/10/colorado_attorney_general_statement_withdrawal_mot ion_preliminary_injunction_g
The Attorney General cannot revise or change the the language of the law. Only the legislature can do that with the approval of the governor. The AG has has stated how he thinks the existing law should be enforced That doesn't stop other prosecutors from bringing charges against someone for violating the law as they see it. We won't know what the law will be until someone is charged and a judge rules on what they think the law means.

[KLR650]

We are essentially being denied our RTKBA due to the ambiguity of the law. It doesn't have to be illegal to have a reduced capacity, 15rnd magazine with a removable floor plate, because it is cost prohibitive to even find out.

[Skully]

If I am reduced to 15 rounds I would rather have the capped mag in a 20 rd body.

RIFLE GEAR (http://www.riflegear.com/p-578-magpul-pmag-15-round-20-body-magazine-223556mm.aspx)

http://www.riflegear.com/images/Product/large/578.jpg

[Joe_K]

Is anyone trying to obey the mag capacity law? Its unenforcable at the present time. Why would anyone go to the trouble of making/ modifying a magazine to hold 15 rounds? Even if we all silently slipped into subservience and chose to follow these unjust laws the Senate might simply ban removable magazines, or any magazine that holds more than 7, or 10 rounds. cough California, and New York cough.


Sent from my PRC 117A in my Batmobile disguised as a sedan.

[osok-308]

Is anyone trying to obey the mag capacity law? Its unenforcable at the present time. Why would anyone go to the trouble of making/ modifying a magazine to hold 15 rounds? Even if we all silently slipped into subservience and chose to follow these unjust laws the Senate might simply ban removable magazines, or any magazine that holds more than 7, or 10 rounds. cough California, and New York cough.


Sent from my PRC 117A in my Batmobile disguised as a sedan.

If I didn't already have all the 15+ round mags that I need I would have no intention of following this law.

[ben4372]

If I didn't already have all the 15+ round mags that I need I would have no intention of following this law.
I pray no manufacturer makes a gun that takes mags I don't have. I'm glad they made the limit 15. If they had made it 20, not as many people would have taken note.

[Joe_K]

I pray no manufacturer makes a gun that takes mags I don't have. I'm glad they made the limit 15. If they had made it 20, not as many people would have taken not.

Da fuuuq?


Sent from my PRC 117A in my Batmobile disguised as a sedan.

[Skully]

I pray no manufacturer makes a gun that takes mags I don't have. I'm glad they made the limit 15. If they had made it 20, not as many people would have taken note.

I would have noticed still.................. I am PRO choice in my mag sizes.

Here is another alternative;

I would rather spend a little less. Not bad price.

(Clicky)
15/20 Round mags 15 rounders in a 20 round body.

(http://www.joeboboutfitters.com/15_20_MidwestPX_Magpul_M3_PMAG_Black_p/mwpx-1520m3blk.htm)
$22

JOEBOB's Outfitter (http://www.joeboboutfitters.com/15_20_MidwestPX_Magpul_M3_PMAG_Black_p/mwpx-1520m3blk.htm)

[hatidua]

I'm glad they made the limit 15. If they had made it 20, not as many people would have taken note.

-not sure I follow...at all.

[UrbanWolf]

-not sure I follow...at all.

I think he meant if the law limits mags to 20 rds, a lot of people will be fine with it.

[Big E3]

"The baseplate of the modified PMAG is permanently affixed and is NOT removable by the end user without permanently damaging the magazine".

I won't be buying any mags from JoeBob's. Removable baseplates have been ruled acceptable under the law. Only illegal if you actually modify the mag to hold more than 15 rounds. Why ruin a perfectly good PMAG