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BPTactical
10-25-2013, 07:21
I was just listening to 710 am with Peter Boyles and he had Tom Mauser on to discuss the Evie Hudak recall and how the "anti" folks are blocking/harassing recall supporters. Mauser said something that was quite revealing. He made the statement that as far as physically blocking people from getting out of their cars "They aren't trained to do that". Hmmm, so the opponents to the recalls are "trained?"
The discussion quickly redirected to "gun control" and Mauser melted down and became the poster child for the irrational stance these people take. False narratives, made up statistics and flat out lies.

Listen to the podcast, 6:30-7:00 is the time frame. Pretty revealing on the mindset.

Bailey Guns
10-25-2013, 07:57
Mauser is a leftist tool...useful idiot.

merl
10-25-2013, 08:24
Mauser is a leftist tool...useful idiot.

He may have started as such but he's been doing this long enough and getting paid for it it is probably just his job now.

JMBD2112
10-25-2013, 10:29
not to get off subject, but there's people physically preventing people from getting out of their car? some peoples children.....

Dave
10-25-2013, 11:08
Not sure how smart it is to block people from getting out of their cars who are in a group that carries. If physical intimidation or harsh words are used charges like harassment, criminal menacing or assault could be filed.

bogie
10-25-2013, 16:26
Heard it on my way in. I haven't heard boyles get that pissed since his return. Like boyles says... The left owns the streets.

BPTactical
10-25-2013, 16:33
Heard it on my way in. I haven't heard boyles get that pissed since his return. Like boyles says... The left owns the streets.

They may "own" the streets, but we KNOW who will survive those streets....

OtterbatHellcat
10-25-2013, 18:58
Not sure how smart it is to block people from getting out of their cars who are in a group that carries. If physical intimidation or harsh words are used charges like harassment, criminal menacing or assault could be filed.

Good luck to anyone who forcibly tries to prevent me from exiting my vehicle.

Ronin13
10-25-2013, 19:12
Not sure how smart it is to block people from getting out of their cars who are in a group that carries. If physical intimidation or harsh words are used charges like harassment, criminal menacing or assault could be filed.
This is what I was thinking. If someone physically stopped me from getting out of my car or lawfully going anywhere- yeah I'd be immediately getting them on the hook for harassment... Or course if it was bad enough that would warrant a call to LE- especially if they were doing this in a large group.

Skip
10-25-2013, 19:26
This is what I was thinking. If someone physically stopped me from getting out of my car or lawfully going anywhere- yeah I'd be immediately getting them on the hook for harassment... Or course if it was bad enough that would warrant a call to LE- especially if they were doing this in a large group.

+1

Accept, IIRC, it's actually assault. Don't ask me for the law...

Irving
10-25-2013, 19:31
I think you'd put yourself in a pretty tough position if you forced your way out of your own car. You basically forced your way INTO a situation. I recommend driving a few feet away to give you time to exit your vehicle peacefully...then deal with whatever situation after that.

BPTactical
10-25-2013, 20:21
I hate how the accelerators stick on Toyota's.

buffalobo
10-25-2013, 20:36
I hate how the accelerators stick on Toyota's.

I was thinking something like this. Mine was toes smashed when I back up to pull away from curb. That powerstroke makes for a heavy front end.

brutal
10-25-2013, 21:03
I think you'd put yourself in a pretty tough position if you forced your way out of your own car. You basically forced your way INTO a situation. I recommend driving a few feet away to give you time to exit your vehicle peacefully...then deal with whatever situation after that.

IMHO, you are wrong. What they are doing is unlawful restraint/false imprisonment and you have every right to resist.

Irving
10-25-2013, 21:19
IMHO, you are wrong. What they are doing is unlawful restraint/false imprisonment and you have every right to resist.

It's not unlawful restraint when you can just drive away.

brutal
10-25-2013, 21:32
It's not unlawful restraint when you can just drive away.

They are restricting your (my) movement. If I want to exit my vehicle and they prevent me from doing so, it's unlawful.

Irving
10-25-2013, 21:41
The unlawfulness of their actions is not in question. Taking any action other than driving away is what is in question.

brutal
10-25-2013, 22:01
The unlawfulness of their actions is not in question. Taking any action other than driving away is what is in question.

I guess we'll just have to disagree. If someone is going to forcibly restrict my movement unlawfully, they will assume responsibility for the hurt they bring upon themselves.

clodhopper
10-26-2013, 08:56
As much as I would be tempted otherwise, I would agree with Irving. What they are trying to do is goad people into escalating the situation to show off our supposed violent nature. They may be in the wrong, but starting a physical altercation would put you in a worse spot. Call the cops and drive forward a bit. Then just move on with your life and leave the petty people behind.

Eric P
10-26-2013, 09:15
Crack the window and let the pepper spray fly. For all you know, they were trying to car jack you.

Great-Kazoo
10-26-2013, 09:17
IMHO, you are wrong. What they are doing is unlawful restraint/false imprisonment and you have every right to resist.


No one is restraining you , IF you have the ability to relocate.
Like use of deadly force, Fight or Flight. in this case flight is an option. Afterwards should the issue present itself, a call to local LE should already be in progress. This way you made not one, but numerous attempts to diffuse a situation.
Been there, done that.

Ronin13
10-26-2013, 09:45
No one is restraining you , IF you have the ability to relocate.
Like use of deadly force, Fight or Flight. in this case flight is an option. Afterwards should the issue present itself, a call to local LE should already be in progress. This way you made not one, but numerous attempts to diffuse a situation.
Been there, done that.
Well put. They always ask after any situation: "Was every attempt made to avoid using [force/deadly force/etc]?" If you answer yes, you're good, no, you're fuk't.

bogie
10-26-2013, 12:51
They may "own" the streets, but we KNOW who will survive those streets....

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BPTactical
10-26-2013, 15:04
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Squeeze
10-26-2013, 20:49
I guess we'll just have to disagree. If someone is going to forcibly restrict my movement unlawfully, they will assume responsibility for the hurt they bring upon themselves.

Problem is, the responding LE is going to seek out if you had the opportunity to disengage from the situation (i.e. drive away) and call for police assistance. If you had that opportunity and failed to use it (in this case), and ended up getting into a fist fight over it, it's not going to look good for both parties involved. And don't forget, the news is going to twist it around and make it look like a 2nd Amendment freak beat the shit out of a poor liberal twat who was on their way to feed the homeless and bless babies. A life lived practicing avoidance is far better than out canvasing for trouble. Ask Zimmerman how well "looking for trouble" worked for him. If I'm out and about and some moron is going to try and block me from getting out of my car, If the opportunity is there, I'm just going to drive to another spot and park. Then, call police and press the issue from there. There are a million "what if's" we can factor in, but bottom line IF I am able to avoid the situation...I'm avoiding.

OtterbatHellcat
10-26-2013, 22:56
Dang it Squeeze..you're taking the fun out of everything... :(

I liked the pepper spray idea mentioned earlier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zxGZYqmo4M

Brass
10-27-2013, 08:57
The Hudak supporters may be trying to bait you into a fight. When the cops arrive, they'll ALL say you just drove up and assaulted them. It'll be your word against many "witnesses".

DOC
10-27-2013, 09:30
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DOC
10-27-2013, 09:31
The Hudak supporters may be trying to bait you into a fight. When the cops arrive, they'll ALL say you just drove up and assaulted them. It'll be your word against many "witnesses".

Not if there is video. Then it will be swept under the rug and they will ignore it in the media.

Skip
10-27-2013, 10:08
The Hudak supporters may be trying to bait you into a fight. When the cops arrive, they'll ALL say you just drove up and assaulted them. It'll be your word against many "witnesses".

This is a good point.

The Left is heavily invested in making gun owners seem violent and dangerous--which would create a moral justification for confiscation. And if you think that isn't their end goal, you need to do some thinking...

It's damn hard to initiate violence against a peaceful people.