Undersheriff Reacts To An 11 Call For Action Investigation

[GilpinGuy]

Dayem....
http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/11-News-Investigation-Deputy-Says-Commissioner-is-Drunk-230771781.html

[merl]

So what is the outrage here? County commissioners sitting drunk in a parked car or the police reaction to it?

[speedysst]

Maybe it was the lack of reaction to the DUI. McFadyen admitted that she had been driving so that's an easy DUI.

[KevDen2005]

Maybe it was the lack of reaction to the DUI. McFadyen admitted that she had been driving so that's an easy DUI.

Not necessarily. Despite popular belief, most officers won't DUI someone without actually stopping them. According to the news story the vehicle was off. Not saying I would handle it the same or differently since I wasn't there. But non moving vehicles and non running vehicles are a lot harder to prove DUI in court, even though keys in the ignition could be "control of the vehicle."

I'm all for popping DUI's but in general, there has to be some common sense in DUI contacts. In a case where a vehicle isn't moving or on sometimes the circumstances allow someone to call for a ride or get a ride to detox so that we know they aren't on the road

[Clint45]

Not necessarily. Despite popular belief, most officers won't DUI someone without actually stopping them. According to the news story the vehicle was off. Not saying I would handle it the same or differently since I wasn't there. But non moving vehicles and non running vehicles are a lot harder to prove DUI in court, even though keys in the ignition could be "control of the vehicle."

Depends on the court, depends on the judge. I've heard of dozens of cases (mostly in Eastern states) where officers would roust anyone found "sleeping it off" in the parking lot of a pub, and the car didn't even need to be running or have keys in the ignition. Fast asleep at 0400 in the backseat with keys in pocket = DWI in New York. Only way to legally sleep one off in your car is to lock the only set of keys in the trunk and have the card of a good lawyer in your wallet . . . and even then you'll probably be arrested anyway.

[merl]

Depends alot on the cop as well.

When I was younger I was roused in the early morning while sleeping it off. Obviously underage, obviously had driven to reach the spot where I parked. He ran my ID and said be gone by 7am. Handing out DUIs to people sleeping it off just encourages them to actually drive and risk it.

Didn't want to go down that area as that does not seem to be what was happening in the OP.

[KevDen2005]

Depends on the court, depends on the judge. I've heard of dozens of cases (mostly in Eastern states) where officers would roust anyone found "sleeping it off" in the parking lot of a pub, and the car didn't even need to be running or have keys in the ignition. Fast asleep at 0400 in the backseat with keys in pocket = DWI in New York. Only way to legally sleep one off in your car is to lock the only set of keys in the trunk and have the card of a good lawyer in your wallet . . . and even then you'll probably be arrested anyway.

I can't see that flying at all where I work. That to me isn't good work anyway. Getting them in a position where they won't drive, awesome. Cause you can't trust a drunk. But they haven't driven yet if they're at the pub (and yes I know they could have come from another bar, I have made a couple of arrests on those guys).

[KevDen2005]

And I'm all for arresting a politician, especially a democrat, for DUI. It doesn't scare me to go to court over that I really don't think they could control my job in this day in age as much as they think they can. It's a good message that they aren't above the law. I'm just merely stating, from what I read, that if a person is clearly not driving and the vehicle isn't on and there were no driving actions or witnesses, I'm not sure I would just go off of "I drove here."

[BushMasterBoy]

Truth is, there is so much serious crime here. My neighborhood (and Buffies) has its own shooting range. This ain't the metro area or New York...