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Singlestack
11-15-2013, 17:46
I haven't had time to study the biils he mentions, but just received the following from him. P.S. He is a liberal Democrat from Boulder:

Dear Friend:

I am excited to provide an update regarding our Second Amendment rights and current legislation that will help protect the rights of gunowners.
This week, I introduced H.R. 3483, the Protecting Individual Liberties and States’ Rights Act of 2013, legislation which would protect gunowners by ensuring that they do not have their guns taken away by the federal government for actions that are legal under Colorado state law. Coloradans overwhelmingly approved Amendment 64 and related provisions in successive elections, demonstrating our commitment to regulating marijuana like alcohol. No veteran should lose his right to bear arms simply because he legally grows three marijuana plants in the privacy of his own home, in full compliance with Colorado state law. Nor should a cancer patient forgo her Second Amendment rights because she uses medical marijuana to control nausea from chemotherapy. There is currently nothing to stop federal agents from seizing legal guns from Colorado residents who are fully complying with state laws, and my bill protects the Second Amendment rights of Coloradans following state law.


I also recently became a cosponsor of H.R. 1565, the bipartisan Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Protection Act. As your representative in Congress, it is my responsibility to protect the liberties enshrined by the Constitution. The Second Amendment Rights Protection Act helps expand our freedoms by guaranteeing the right of gunowners to buy, sell, trade, and travel more freely with their firearms.


Colorado provides gunowners access to a concealed carry permit that lawfully allows travel with a concealed firearm in other states that have agreed to accept Colorado’s permits. While there is room for improvement, this system is convenient for gunowners. H.R. 1565 expands this travel protection by allowing lawful concealed carry permit holders to buy, sell, or trade a firearm in any other state, as long as the other state’s laws meet certain criteria and the concealed carry permit was issued in the past five years. For example, under this bill, a Colorado resident traveling to visit family in California may be able to use his or her Colorado concealed carry permit to buy a gun in California without being subject to a new background check. This bill would make it easier for gunowners to travel or work in other states, and would reduce duplicative and unnecessary involvement by the federal government.


Furthermore, I strongly oppose the creation of a federal gun registry. While a national registry is not specifically authorized in any law, you may be wondering, what’s to stop a federal agency or even a President from creating one? Did the NSA have the authority to collect cell phone data from hundreds of millions of Americans? Did Congress ever approve the fatally flawed Fast and Furious gunrunning operation? Our laws and our government should enhance our liberties—not threaten them. Without clear protections, we risk more violations of our rights. The bill that I co-sponsored explicitly prohibits the creation of a national gun registry, and will protect privacy and gunowners’ rights by penalizing any federal employees or contractors who attempt to create a federal registry with up to 15 years in prison.


I will also soon become a cosponsor of H.R. 3335, the Firearms Interstate Commerce Reform Act, which was recently introduced by Rep. Steve Scalise (R-LA). This bill would allow an individual to buy firearms from a licensed dealer in another state, as long as the buyer met the background check requirements of that state. Under this bill, dealers could buy and sell firearms in other states if they complied with each state’s laws, and would also be allowed to exchange firearms directly, rather than only at licensed locations.


You may also be interested to know that earlier this year I was one of 18 Democrats to join 216 Republicans to vote in support of an amendment offered by Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC) that would require the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to report to Congress on the quantity of, and rationale for, its proposed ammunition purchases. Just as I am working to prevent the federal government from intruding into the lives of lawful gunowners, I also want to make sure that DHS isn’t stocking up on more ammunition than it needs.
Like much of our nation, Colorado has a long tradition of gun ownership. From recreation and sport to self-protection and safety, I am committed to protecting the rights of lawful Coloradans to own firearms. If I can be of further assistance on this or any other issue, please contact me at (970) 226-1239. I also encourage you to visit https://polis.house.gov (http://polis.house.gov/Components/Redirect/r.aspx?ID=380792-9928251) and sign up to receive my newsletter.

Sincerely,


http://polis.house.gov/UploadedPhotos/LowResolution/daba5371-2723-42f2-b936-b145e89e8b44.jpg


Jared Polis

Bailey Guns
11-15-2013, 18:58
Must be an election year. The liberals are gettin' their conservative on.

merl
11-15-2013, 19:13
Interesting noises. Have any old messages from 10 months ago to compare against?

SirSai
11-15-2013, 20:10
30 round mags are still bad for ya, apparently.

SamuraiCO
11-15-2013, 21:13
And Obama wasn't lying when he said "If you like your plan you can keep your plan. If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor".

All smoke and mirrors from any Dem.

Singlestack
11-15-2013, 21:28
Interesting noises. Have any old messages from 10 months ago to compare against?

Nope - this is the first time I heard him say anything about the 2A.

BPTactical
11-15-2013, 21:49
Worthy of keeping an ear to.
Be interdasting to see what if any becomes of it.

bennice
11-15-2013, 22:09
His term is up in 2015. He's pretty far left leaning, so this is strange territory.

Maybe the Democratic brain trust got the hint that going anti 2A will get their asses kicked, so they're softening the stance and abandoning those controversial positions.
Or maybe Polis is somewhat sensible on the issue. He doesn't have any stated position on gun control as far as I can find.

Should be interesting.

def90
11-15-2013, 22:31
Polis has always stated that he prefers reforming mental health over taking away gun rights. Personally I like the guy. He is a champion of private and charter schools as well and against unions and common core.

He has always held these positions election year or not. He is the only rep in Colorado that responded back this past year that he is not a fan of any further gun restrictions.

The thing about Polis is that he didn't "grow up" a politician, he made his millions as a businessman and then became a politician. I think he approaches his issues using the same business sense rather than the heart bleeding knee jerk approach most politicians use. He's a smart guy.

sent from a soup can and some string..

jhood001
11-15-2013, 22:35
A lot of information and statistics have come out over the past 2 years regarding firearms and 2A. Maybe some of these guys are actually reading it thinking for themselves. Wishful thinking, but who knows.

I sure hope that isn't the case though. It would make the black and white of R vs. D a lot more grey and a lot more complicated if it were true.
Black and white is simple. Simple is easy and I like simple. And I like YOU Bailey Guns. [Beer]

O2HeN2
11-15-2013, 22:40
He is the only rep in Colorado that responded back this past year that he is not a fan of any further gun restrictions.
But how did he vote on the current ones?

O2

def90
11-15-2013, 22:55
But how did he vote on the current ones?

O2

It's easy to find his voting record.. there hasn't been anything 2a related for him to actually vote on yet.A simple google search will tell you everything you need to know. He is for restoring haebus corpus as well as repealing many aspects of the patriot act. He is only a dem in the fact that he is gay and supports equal rights aka gay marriage and is pro choice.

sent from a soup can and some string..

Rucker61
11-15-2013, 23:59
What the frack?

centrarchidae
11-16-2013, 08:00
He is only a dem in the fact that he is gay and supports equal rights aka gay marriage and is pro choice.


And pro-Obamacare. Very pro-Obamacare. He bought into a medical-tourism business in order to profit from it.

Don't forget, he's also one of the "Gang of Four," our own home-grown attempts at Bloomberg-style high-dollar leftism.

IMHO, Polis on gun control is proof of blind pigs, acorns, and stopped clocks.

Jesus-With-A-.45
11-16-2013, 09:26
Sure fellas this guy is great(sarcasm).............maybe you should read this first.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/15/legalizing-illegal-immigrants-solution-obamacare-d/

KLR650
11-16-2013, 11:34
either way, those bills mentioned are pro liberty

KS63
11-16-2013, 14:31
I never believe a Dem. He's just hoping we take the candy.

DavieD55
11-16-2013, 19:51
He isn't a Liberal Democrat, he is one of the most progressive members of the US House Representatives.

Irving
11-16-2013, 19:58
I took this picture on I-25 a few months ago. I guess I could share it here.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-jtT70Vr5bbg/Ujt5AdJwnpI/AAAAAAAAEdo/cQZGu_-W_vE/w1109-h624-no/20130919_162111.jpg

I remember noticing at the time that there were no rear plates displayed.

Bowtie
11-16-2013, 21:47
I took this picture on I-25 a few months ago. I guess I could share it here.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-jtT70Vr5bbg/Ujt5AdJwnpI/AAAAAAAAEdo/cQZGu_-W_vE/w1109-h624-no/20130919_162111.jpg

I remember noticing at the time that there were no rear plates displayed.

This picture made me laugh out loud. No love for Polis here. I used to live in his district and had somewhat hopes for the guy. But much like Hickenlooper they voted(or signed) for every bill lockstep with the Dem majority.

merl
11-16-2013, 22:40
I took this picture on I-25 a few months ago. I guess I could share it here.



I remember noticing at the time that there were no rear plates displayed.

*sigh* Other than explaining his position on gay marriage it has no bearing. Am amazed someone would willingly put that on their car.

wctriumph
11-17-2013, 17:37
In my opinion, he is sponsoring/co-sponsoring these bills as a way to say he supports us, knowing full well that they will never get past the Senate. He is at risk because of his progressive viewpoint and if reelected he will abandon his so called pro second amendment position and vote party above the people. Just my feelings on the subject.

Great-Kazoo
11-17-2013, 18:30
*sigh* Other than explaining his position on gay marriage it has no bearing. Am amazed someone would willingly put that on their car.

It is a Subaru

mdflem51
11-25-2013, 21:11
He`s half of a "polesmoker" couple with a child. How`s that gonna` work out? I don`t know..odds are the kid's taking ballet already. Polis going against Obama? Think about it.

hatidua
11-25-2013, 21:34
He`s half of a "polesmoker" couple with a child. How`s that gonna` work out? I don`t know..odds are the kid's taking ballet already.

wow

XC700116
11-25-2013, 22:52
Why does anyone care WTF he does in his bedroom??

I'm much more concerned with the fact that he's about as much of a leftist as it gets and the fact that this whole Pro-2A bend he's currently on has absolutely nothing to do with freedoms and everything to do with no getting tossed out on his ass.

jhood001
11-25-2013, 22:58
He`s half of a "polesmoker" couple with a child. How`s that gonna` work out? I don`t know..odds are the kid's taking ballet already. Polis going against Obama? Think about it.

I'm a homophobe and I endorse this message.

We all know that doing 'gay' things creates gay people. Unless we read things from time to time. Kind of a Catch-22 though because we all know that reading is for fags.

Irving
11-25-2013, 23:03
I'm a homophobe and I endorse this message.

We all know that doing 'gay' things creates gay people. Unless we read things from time to time. Kind of a Catch-22 though because we all know that reading is for fags.

LOL, [highfive]

Great-Kazoo
11-25-2013, 23:41
He`s half of a "polesmoker" couple with a child. How`s that gonna` work out? I don`t know..odds are the kid's taking ballet already. Polis going against Obama? Think about it.

Well i guess that lifestyle zeros out the wife beating, incest picture taking husband of the year. Better he force some kid, or even his daughter to suck his dick, than a consenting adult.[facepalm]

That single engine have a cabin leak ?

rocktot
11-26-2013, 02:36
Supports legalizing 30 million+ illegals to make Nobummercare to function properly. Not sure why all the support is going on here. He is in a safe Dem district also. You guys been watching gay porn again?[mop]

merl
11-26-2013, 08:00
Supports legalizing 30 million+ illegals to make Nobummercare to function properly. Not sure why all the support is going on here. He is in a safe Dem district also. You guys been watching gay porn again?[mop]

No he supports the legalization to guarantee (D) control of the government for a generation. If a dog can register on the exchanges I'm sure illegals can. Honestly I see no reason why they should not be allowed to. No subsidies, pay the full price, but sign on up.

This discussion is happening because he is saying he is at least partially pro 2A and this is a 2A site.

Great-Kazoo
11-26-2013, 08:21
Supports legalizing 30 million+ illegals to make Nobummercare to function properly. Not sure why all the support is going on here. He is in a safe Dem district also. You guys been watching gay porn again?[mop]


I don't support polis. however i don't care what he chooses to do with his sexuality, nor condemn for being gay, rant how his lifestyle like mudpacker was.


No he supports the legalization to guarantee (D) control of the government for a generation. If a dog can register on the exchanges I'm sure illegals can. Honestly I see no reason why they should not be allowed to. No subsidies, pay the full price, but sign on up.

This discussion is happening because he is saying he is at least partially pro 2A and this is a 2A site.

while his stance is one of individual choice, his ideology is one of nanny state protection. but yes his statement was regarding the 2A.

jhood001
11-26-2013, 08:34
I don't support polis. however i don't care what he chooses to do with his sexuality, nor condemn for being gay, rant how his lifestyle like mudpacker was.


Jim said 'mudpacker'. [ROFL3]

lowbeyond
11-26-2013, 09:05
HR 1565 is bullshit

It basically bans private FTF sales/transfers and is more of a universal BGC

Polis is a SHIT BAG

``(t)(1) Beginning on the date that is 180 days after the date of
enactment of this subsection and except as provided in paragraph (2),
it shall be unlawful for any person other than a licensed dealer,
licensed manufacturer, or licensed importer to complete the transfer of
a firearm to any other person who is not licensed under this chapter,
if such transfer occurs--
``(A) at a gun show or event, on the curtilage thereof; or
``(B) pursuant to an advertisement, posting, display or
other listing on the Internet or in a publication by the
transferor of his intent to transfer, or the transferee of his
intent to acquire, the firearm.
``(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply if--
``(A) the transfer is made after a licensed importer,
licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer has first taken
possession of the firearm for the purpose of complying with
subsection (s), and upon taking possession of the firearm, the
licensee--
``(i) complies with all requirements of this
chapter as if the licensee were transferring the
firearm from the licensee's business inventory to the
unlicensed transferee, except that when processing a
transfer under this chapter the licensee may accept in
lieu of conducting a background check a valid permit
issued within the previous 5 years by a State, or a
political subdivision of a State, that allows the
transferee to possess, acquire, or carry a firearm, if
the law of the State, or political subdivision of a
State, that issued the permit requires that such permit
is issued only after an authorized government official
has verified that the information available to such
official does not indicate that possession of a firearm
by the unlicensed transferee would be in violation of
Federal, State, or local law;
``(B) the transfer is made between an unlicensed transferor
and an unlicensed transferee residing in the same State, which
takes place in such State, if--
``(i) the Attorney General certifies that State in
which the transfer takes place has in effect
requirements under law that are generally equivalent to
the requirements of this section; and
``(ii) the transfer was conducted in compliance
with the laws of the State;
``(C) the transfer is made between spouses, between parents
or spouses of parents and their children or spouses of their
children, between siblings or spouses of siblings, or between
grandparents or spouses of grandparents and their grandchildren
or spouses of their grandchildren, or between aunts or uncles
or their spouses and their nieces or nephews or their spouses,
or between first cousins, if the transferor does not know or
have reasonable cause to believe that the transferee is
prohibited from receiving or possessing a firearm under
Federal, State, or local law; or
``(D) the Attorney General has approved the transfer under
section 5812 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986.

ChuckNorris
11-26-2013, 09:23
ALL DemocRATS are shit bags!

Rabid
11-26-2013, 13:51
HR 1565 is bullshit
How about we stop giving lip service to Polis and talk about the bills a little.

HR 3483 text https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr3483/text
Looks like it will allow pot heads to legally own firearms.

HR 1565 text https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr1565/text
This one is a can of worms and i do not think 183 dem and 2 repubs make this a bipartisan bill. I need to reread it a few times to understand the legalese but what i have gathered so far is Polis does not care about your rights. This is just another poorly written bill that does nothing but hurt your rights and allows any and all of your medical information to be shared with NICS along with expanding background checks.

lowbeyond
11-26-2013, 13:55
We all know that doing 'gay' things creates gay people. Unless we read things from time to time. Kind of a Catch-22 though because we all know that reading is for fags.

[LOL][Beer]

davsel
11-26-2013, 15:05
What Polis is trying to say is, "If you like your guns, you can keep your guns, period."

merl
11-26-2013, 18:27
How about we stop giving lip service to Polis and talk about the bills a little.

HR 3483 text https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr3483/text
Looks like it will allow pot heads to legally own firearms.
This one is a good bill



HR 1565 text https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr1565/text
This one is a can of worms and i do not think 183 dem and 2 repubs make this a bipartisan bill. I need to reread it a few times to understand the legalese but what i have gathered so far is Polis does not care about your rights. This is just another poorly written bill that does nothing but hurt your rights and allows any and all of your medical information to be shared with NICS along with expanding background checks.
That is more like what one would expect.

lowbeyond
11-26-2013, 18:42
Yea H. R. 3483 is good. And i dont even smoke dope. Ha !

1565 is shitty though.

Jeffrey Lebowski
11-27-2013, 08:29
And pro-Obamacare. Very pro-Obamacare. He bought into a medical-tourism business in order to profit from it.

Don't forget, he's also one of the "Gang of Four," our own home-grown attempts at Bloomberg-style high-dollar leftism.

IMHO, Polis on gun control is proof of blind pigs, acorns, and stopped clocks.

This in spades. Anyone on the fence about Polis should go back and read "The Blueprint." $0.02
I don't care what he says about 2A, their activity set up the environment for the crazy gun laws we have now.

Aloha_Shooter
11-30-2013, 23:37
Polis needs an enema with a firehose. I believe what he spews about as much as I believe Obama.

avandelay
12-06-2013, 15:13
I just heard a bit of his immigration reform speech on the House floor. He needs to be given a pink slip in 2014. That might be tough given the makeup of his district.

losttrail
12-09-2013, 07:28
Election year jitters looking at the state recall successes. Polis sees that his attachment to the public teat may be in jeopardy.

ChuckNorris
12-09-2013, 09:11
They're all doing the "Potomac Two Step". Trying to save their butts.

DavieD55
12-09-2013, 14:49
This here is a small list or reasons why you would vote for J Polis.

1. You're radically gay and believe the world revolves around homosexuality and alternative lifestyles

2. You think Common Core in public education is a brilliant way to teach children

3. You think America should be transformed into denmark

4. You hate for people to be able to own any and all firearms except for your own bodyguards

5. You don't believe Washington DC needs to balance the budget

6. You have a fetish with illegal aliens and believe in a borderless nation

7. You believe that barrycare is a great idea and should be forced on people who are opposed to it even though you're exempt from the law yourself

8. You're a college student who is just following the wave of hip and cool people

9. You're on drugs illegal narcotics or some great prescriptions

10. You're for the supremacy of the state over the people

mdflem51
12-23-2013, 19:32
He likes poop on his weiner. Has a male adopted child, flies back and forth to D.C. on a private jet. Bitches when they drill across the street from his "farm" . Jets run on oil!