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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/12/11/mandela-south-africa-deaf-fake/3985257/
This is so funny and so sad all at the same time...
The sign language interpreter used at Tuesday's memorial service for Nelson Mandela, and whose image was broadcast around the world as he shared a stage with world leaders including President Obama, was being called a "fake" by the Deaf Federation of South Africa.
Bruno Druchen, the national director of the federation, sent this tweet as the event was taking place at FNB Stadium on the outskirts of Johannesburg, South Africa:
Please get RID of this CLOWN interpreter,please!pic.twitter.com/ziAZ4KBFNZ (http://t.co/ziAZ4KBFNZ)
— Bruno Peter Druchen (@BrunoDruchen) December 10, 2013 (https://twitter.com/BrunoDruchen/statuses/410351396815659008)
Wilma Newhoudt, a deaf member of South Africa's parliament, tweeted this:
@NkenkeKekana (https://twitter.com/NkenkeKekana)@GautengANC (https://twitter.com/GautengANC) the so called interpreter on the stage with Cde Cyril is not signing. He's just making up. Get him out of TV sight
— wilma newhoudt (@newhoudt) December 11, 2013 (https://twitter.com/newhoudt/statuses/410660705273397248)
The Associated Press also reported the allegation Wednesday, saying that three sign language experts who watched the broadcast said the man was not signing in South African or American sign languages.
"It was horrible, an absolute circus, really really bad," Nicole Du Toit, an official sign language interpreter, told the AP. "Only he can understand those gestures."
USA TODAY was not able to independently confirm the allegations, which if proved true would be an enormous embarrassment to South African officials at a time when the nation is looking to celebrate the life and legacy of Nelson Mandela.
South Africa's government said it is preparing a statement.
[LOL]
I wonder if he's Nigerian....
[facepalm]My Shocked sign.
buckshotbarlow
12-11-2013, 09:17
where's that tattoo comment about a shocked face???
mackbamf
12-11-2013, 10:48
That's some funny shit right there...
brianakell
12-11-2013, 11:11
ebonics?
killianak9
12-11-2013, 11:14
Lmao, that's funny !
sellersm
12-11-2013, 11:21
ebonics?
[ROFL3]
RblDiver
12-11-2013, 12:24
I'm not sure which'd be funnier: This guy being fake, or if he was just signing something along the lines of "Blah blah political bs, blah blah nothing important".
sellersm
12-11-2013, 12:25
I guess a fake interpreter matches a fake US President.
bellavite1
12-11-2013, 12:28
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/12/11/mandela-south-africa-deaf-fake/3985257/
This is so funny and so sad all at the same time...
[LOL]
I wonder if he's Nigerian....
Stupid N...igerians ![Coffee]
Zundfolge
12-11-2013, 12:30
You just can't make this shit up.
Truth ... stranger than fiction.
DavieD55
12-11-2013, 12:45
It's all faked when celebrating the life of a dead communist and terrorist.
Fentonite
12-11-2013, 12:58
I just watched the video. Hilarious! I don't know sign language, and even I could tell that the guy was full of shit. Very fitting though... Obama speaks, and the interpreter just makes some meaningless twitches and bullshit movements. Wait a minute! Maybe the guy actually is a really gifted interpreter after all!
It's like a Saturday night Live skit, except that THIS is actually funny...
Wait was it Garret Morris?
I guess a fake interpreter matches a fake US President.
Pretty much.
sellersm
12-11-2013, 13:46
Wait was it Garret Morris?
[LOL]
jerrymrc
12-11-2013, 17:44
The wife is an ASL interpreter and watched it. She said WTF is he doing he might as well be scratching his balls.[LOL]
lpgasman
12-11-2013, 17:59
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2Q0cyJSs04&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Here he is.
The wife is an ASL interpreter and watched it. She said WTF is he doing he might as well be scratching his balls.[LOL]
Don't know what your wife is talking about. I found the translation on another site after 2 seconds of searching.
When I dance they call me MacarenaAnd the boys they say que estoy buena
They all want me, they can't have me
So they all come and dance beside me
Move with me, chant with me
And if you're good I'll take you home with me
Dale a tu cuerpo alegria Macarena
Que tu cuerpo es pa' darle alegria cosa buena
Dale a tu cuerpo alegria, Macarena
Hey Macarena!
(Ay!)
Dale a tu cuerpo alegria Macarena
Que tu cuerpo es pa' darle alegria cosa buena
Dale a tu cuerpo alegria, Macarena
Hey Macarena!
(Ay!)
Now don't you worry about my boyfriend
The boy who's name is Vitorino
Ha! I don't want him, can't stand him
He was no good so I, ha ha ha
Now come on, what was I supposed to do?
He was out of town and his two friends were so fine
Dale a tu cuerpo alegria Macarena
Que tu cuerpo es pa' darle alegria cosa buena
Dale a tu cuerpo alegria, Macarena
Hey Macarena!
(Ay!)
Dale a tu cuerpo alegria Macarena
Que tu cuerpo es pa' darle alegria cosa buena
Dale a tu cuerpo alegria, Macarena
Hey Macarena!
(Ay!)
(Ay! Ay!)
(Ay! Ay!)
(Ay! Ay!)
(I am not trying to seduce you)
(Ay!)
M-M-Macarena
M-M-Macarena
M-M-Macarena
(Ay!)
M-M-Macarena
M-M-Macarena
M-M-Macarena
Macaren, Macaren, Macaren, Macarena
Dale a tu cuerpo alegria Macarena
Que tu cuerpo es pa' darle alegria cosa buena
Dale a tu cuerpo alegria, Macarena
Hey Macarena!
(Ay!)
Dale a tu cuerpo alegria Macarena
Que tu cuerpo es pa' darle alegria cosa buena
Dale a tu cuerpo alegria, Macarena
Hey Macarena!
(Ay!)
(Ay!)
Come and find me, my name is Macarena
Always at the party con las chicas que son buena
Come join me, dance with me
And all you fellows chant along with me
Dale a tu cuerpo alegria Macarena
Que tu cuerpo es pa' darle alegria cosa buena
Dale a tu cuerpo alegria, Macarena
Hey Macarena!
(Ay!)
Dale a tu cuerpo alegria Macarena
Que tu cuerpo es pa' darle alegria cosa buena
Dale a tu cuerpo alegria, Macarena
Hey Macarena!
(Ay!)
Dale a tu cuerpo alegria Macarena
Que tu cuerpo es pa' darle alegria cosa buena
Dale a tu cuerpo alegria, Macarena
Hey Macarena!
(Ay!)
Dale a tu cuerpo alegria Macarena
Que tu cuerpo es pa' darle alegria cosa buena
Dale a tu cuerpo alegria, Macarena
Hey Macarena!
(Ay!)
Dale a tu cuerpo alegria Macarena
Que tu cuerpo es pa' darle alegria cosa buena
Dale a tu cuerpo alegria, Macarena
Hey Macarena!
(Ay!)
(Ay!)
....aaand Stuving wins the thread...[ROFL1]
rockhound
12-11-2013, 22:23
The guy has some serious guts to stand up in a crowd of that calibre and just bs his way through
Singlestack
12-11-2013, 22:48
I vote for the interpreter to Time's man of the year. Oh its the Pope? Too late to change it?
rockhound
12-12-2013, 08:42
claims he is schizo and had an episode on stage
claims he is schizo and had an episode on stage
perfect excuse! you would think for an event of this magnitude they might make sure the guy knows his stuff!
Honestly, I hope they bring him to the US and they let him do all the signing for obamas speeches!
speedysst
12-12-2013, 11:08
Straight from YouTube: Revelian1982 (http://www.youtube.com/profile_redirector/118389479782595748244)2 hours ago (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpPvGP_GUXs&google_comment_id=z12zur0bzvqduvva104cjdizjoasfvvw a44)
I can speak sign language. What the man said was:
"Hand, mouth, hand, mouth, mouth, mouth, hand, two fingers, chin, mouth, chest."
A very heart-warming tribute. :')
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SuperiorDG
12-12-2013, 13:18
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/12/12/interpreter-for-mandela-memorial-says-was-hallucinating/
A man being criticized by sign language experts for providing fake interpretations while standing close to President Obama and other heads of state at Nelson Mandela’s memorial says he becomes violent “a lot” and was hallucinating during the event.
Thamsanqa Jantjie did not describe his qualifications for being a sign language interpreter, but told The Star (http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/gauteng/sign-language-fake-blames-illness-1.1621044#.UqmydZHpx8G)http://global.fncstatic.com/static/v/all/img/external-link.png he works for an interpreting company that paid him $85 for working Tuesday's event, according to The Associated Press. He told Radio 702 on Thursday he's receiving treatment for schizophrenia and had an episode while on stage at FNB Stadium in Johannesburg.
"What happened that day, I see angels come to the stadium ... I start realizing that the problem is here. And the problem, I don't know the attack of this problem, how will it come. Sometimes I get violent on that place. Sometimes I will see things chasing me," Jantjie said in an interview with The Associated Press.
"I was in a very difficult position," he added. "And remember those people, the president and everyone, they were armed, there was armed police around me. If I start panicking I'll start being a problem. I have to deal with this in a manner so that I mustn't embarrass my country."
Asked how often he had become violent, he told The Associated Press "a lot," while declining to provide details. He also did not say which president he was referring to, but did apologize for his performance and admitted he was once hospitalized in a mental health facility for more than a year.
The statements from Jantjie raised questions about the security at the three-hour event. Jantjie stood three feet away from Obama and the other leaders, including U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, while they were speaking at the lectern.
There was initial confusion Wednesday over who Jantjie was, as the country’s deaf community and the ruling African National Congress said they had no knowledge of his identity, despite him appearing on television gesticulating alongside South African President Jacob Zuma last year, Reuters reported
When asked about the matter Wednesday, U.S. Secret Service Spokesman Brian Leary told FoxNews.com that the department was aware of it, but declined to elaborate.
Jantjie's admissions about his mental state were made Thursday.
White House Principal Deputy Press Secretary Josh Earnest said during a press briefing on Wednesday that the Secret Service is "ultimately responsible for the president's security." He said at the time he wasn't aware of any security concerns with the situation.
"I think my only reaction to that is that it's a shame that you had a service that was dedicated to honoring the life and celebrating the legacy of one of the great leaders of the 20th century, [and it] has gotten distracted by this and a few other issues that are far less important than the legacy of Nelson Mandela," he said.
A South African deputy Cabinet minister said "a mistake happened" when Jantjie was hired for the event.
Deputy Minister of Women, Children and People with Disabilities Hendrietta Bogopane-Zulu said Thursday that government officials have tried to track down the company that provided Jantjie, SA Interpreters, but that its co-owners "have vanished into thin air."
Bogopane-Zulu also apologized to deaf people who were offended around the world by what they say was Jantjie's incomprehensible signing.
She said an investigation is under way to determine how Jantjie received a security clearance.
Jantjie said he was due on the day of the ceremony to get a regular six-month mental health checkup to determine whether the medication he takes was working, whether it needed to be changed or whether he needed to be kept at a mental health facility for treatment.
He said he did not tell the company that contracted him for the event that he was due for the checkup, but said the owner of SA Interpreters in Johannesburg was aware of his condition.
AP journalists who visited the address of the company that Jantjie provided found a different company there, whose managers said they knew nothing about SA Interpreters. A woman answered the phone at a number that Jantjie provided and said it was not for the company, and another phone number went to a voicemail that did not identify the person or company with the number.
Jantjie said he received one year of sign language interpretation at a school in Cape Town. He said he has previously interpreted at many events without anyone complaining, and insisted he was doing proper sign-language interpretation of the speeches on Tuesday.
But Bruno Druchen, the Deaf Federation of South Africa’s national director, and three other sign language experts said Jantjie was not signing in South African or American sign languages and could not have been signing in any other known sign language because there was no structure to his arm and hand movements. South African sign language covers all of the country's 11 official languages, according to the federation.
"He didn't follow any of the grammatical rules and structure of the language. He just invented his signs as he went along," Delphin Hlungwane, an official South African sign language interpreter at DeafSA, told Reuters on Wednesday.
"There was zero percent accuracy. He couldn't even get the basics right. He couldn't even say thank you," she added.
For his part, Jantjie said that while voices in his head impaired his ability to interpret what was being said on stage, he was unable to leave and continued to sign things that didn't make sense.
“Life is unfair. This illness is unfair. Anyone who doesn’t understand this illness will think that I’m just making this up,” he told The Star. "There was nothing I could do. I was alone in a very dangerous situation. I tried to control myself and not show the world what was going on. I am very sorry, it’s the situation I found myself in."
Ingrid Parkin, principal of the St. Vincent School for the Deaf in Johannesburg, said she had received complaints from the deaf community from Canada to China about Jantjie on stage and how his movements looked "like he's signing gibberish." He also used no facial expression to convey the emotions of the leaders, a key element of sign language interpretation.
"This man himself knows he cannot sign and he had the guts to stand on an international stage and do that," Parkin said.
The scandal over the interpreter is another indication of the shoddy organization behind the historic memorial service.
Other difficulties included public transportation breakdowns which hindered mourners from getting to the event and a faulty audio system that prevented many of the tens of thousands in the stadium from hearing the leaders' speeches. In an apparent security failure, police did not search the first wave of crowds arriving at the stadium.
Bogus sign language interpreters are a problem in South Africa, because people who know a few signs try to pass themselves off as interpreters, Parkin said. And those hiring them usually don't sign, so they have no idea that the people they are hiring cannot do the job, she said.
[I]FoxNews.com's Greg Norman and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
wctriumph
12-12-2013, 13:36
Secret Service agents were probably more interested in checking out all the prostitutes that follow these "world leaders" around. Got to make sure they are VD free for the assembled VIP's.
The SS used to be better than this.
TEA III
RblDiver
12-12-2013, 13:42
"Sometimes I get violent on that place." And you couldn't just have had this happen while O was up there, and turned and punched him? You let me down man, you let me down! lol
"Sometimes I get violent on that place." And you couldn't just have had this happen while O was up there, and turned and punched him? You let me down man, you let me down! lol
Yeah. Could you imagine how many hits that video would have on YouTube? A bat-shit crazy, wanna-be interpreter beating the living shit out of B.O.
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