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tmleadr03
12-19-2013, 14:53
Gold and silver are dumping right now.
Glad I invested in ammo.
funkymonkey1111
12-19-2013, 15:04
that's a better use of "precious" metals...
Gold and silver are dumping right now.
China & India likely could not be any happier!
sellersm
12-19-2013, 15:07
Don't believe the hype: it's time to buy more! I'm guessing gold will bottom out around $1150... Then, look out in 2014!
Just more of the same Fed manipulation.
When QE 1 and 2 stopped, the stock market took a dump. Why did the market go up when the Fed announced the taper of QE3?
PMs "should" be up and the "market" down based on the announcement.
The Fed is forcing PMs down and the market up to keep the smurfs from panicking.
Nothing is real.
"Investing" and "PM's" shouldn't be used in the same sentence.
Time to add the new version of the Zombucks to my collection. :)
jhood001
12-19-2013, 15:28
Moved everything I have into stable funds this morning. Call it a hunch.
DangerLee_Industries
12-19-2013, 15:57
Time to add the new version of the Zombucks to my collection. :) Those are some cool looking rounds for sure....
Strange:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-19/jpms-quiet-scramble-refill-its-gold-vault
Post Toastie
12-19-2013, 16:40
PMs should not be looked at as investment, they are a hedge. And, as they say over at ZH, BTFD!
Strange:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-19/jpms-quiet-scramble-refill-its-gold-vault
That'll be strange right about the time "buy low, sell high" no longer makes financial sense.
<MADDOG>
12-19-2013, 17:07
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM9UUJojzN4
<MADDOG>
12-19-2013, 17:38
Original article: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jessecolombo/2013/12/19/breaking-gold-may-be-on-the-verge-of-a-waterfall-style-decline/
Earlier this month – when the Fed’s QE taper plan was still a complete mystery – I published a technical analysis of the gold and silver market in which I showed key technical support levels at $1,200 and $18 respectively that I said needed to hold or a severe decline would ensue.
The Fed’s taper plan that was announced on Wednesday came as a surprise in many respects: it came earlier than many expected, the $10 billion per month QE reduction was less aggressive than many expected, and the heavier emphasis on forward Fed Funds rate guidance was more dovish than many expected. While global equity markets surged on the dovish implications of ZIRP for a longer than expected period of time, precious metals – which thrived on the Fed’s money printing in recent years – did not join in on the festivities. Gold plunged today by $47.40 or 3.84% to $1187.50, while silver fell by $.84 or 4.18% to $19.22.
In the past few hours, gold sliced right below the $1,200 support level that I showed earlier this month:
Though silver took a hit, it’s still above its $18 support, but it’s a fast-moving market, so a break below this level can happen quickly:
Now that gold broke below its support level, another sharp decline – including what I call a “waterfall-style decline” – is looking increasingly likely. I suspect that another wave of selling may commence when the Asian precious metals trading session starts in a few hours from now (it’s Thursday afternoon in New York as I write this). If I was planning to short gold, I would make sure that I have a stop-loss order in place to exit the trade in case gold manages to rise back above the $1,200 level, creating a bear trap.
As I showed in my last gold and silver analysis, gold mining stocks experienced a serious technical breakdown in late-November, and I said that gold mining stocks have a tendency to lead the gold market. It looks like this indicator is on the verge of proving its worth once again, even though it is still early.
If gold’s technical breakdown fully plays out, the next support level (and thus price projection) is at $1,000, which is both the 2009 highs as well as a psychologically important round number, which matters a great deal in financial markets:
Why is gold dropping despite all of the central bank money printing in recent years? I have a very different take on this issue than most commentators: I believe that global central bank stimulus is creating what I call a Bubblecovery or a bubble-driven economic recovery that is fooling the whole world into becoming less fearful, which is reducing demand for gold as a safe-haven. I believe that the eventual ending of the Bubblecovery will cause another global economic crisis that will prove to be highly beneficial for gold, even though gold may have further downside in meantime.
As a reminder, if gold manages to break back above its $1,200 support level, I would no longer be inclined to hold a bearish short-term view on it.
wctriumph
12-19-2013, 22:14
Its all so abstract ...
kidicarus13
12-19-2013, 23:21
MADDOG: First opinion on gold/silver that I've read in a long time that makes sense to me.
I only have precious Metals for when the Dollar is no more. WHEN
muddywings
12-20-2013, 09:23
MADDOG: First opinion on gold/silver that I've read in a long time that makes sense to me.
+1 for MADDOG
As I've said at least a half-dozen times on this forum, I will continue to buy PM's (silver mostly, because I can't afford gold) as the price drops. It's purely a hedge and insurance policy for me because it is increasingly apparent that the USD is being debased and losing international buying power. We will experience inflation at the very least, hyperinflation and economic collapse at the worst. Diversifying out of the USD into physical property that retains value and could possibly appreciate over time (not just PM's), is the best thing any of us can do with the extra discretionary money in our budgets these days.
edit: That is assuming, you've already procured the means to protect yourself and property, and have emergency planning items in place... those should of course be purchased first.
Aloha_Shooter
12-20-2013, 13:11
At this point, my idea of precious metals is steel, brass, lead and copper.
sellersm
12-23-2013, 14:25
From an interview today with John Embry (http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2013/12/23_Despite_The_Propaganda,_The_US_Economy_Is_Colla psing.html):
My optimism on gold and silver is absolutely unshaken, despite the dreadful year we’ve experienced as the paper boys won a big round. The fact is that gold and silver are as cheap in relation to their true fundamentals as they have ever been in history. The one thing that I’m extremely comfortable with in my own personal portfolio is physical gold and silver in my own possession.
<MADDOG>
12-23-2013, 15:37
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d108/pperron/20131220gmr_image008_zpsde2e6857.png (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/pperron/media/20131220gmr_image008_zpsde2e6857.png.html)
ChunkyMonkey
12-23-2013, 16:22
Gold, silver, properties.. buy cautiously when they are high..buy more when they are low.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d108/pperron/20131220gmr_image008_zpsde2e6857.png (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/pperron/media/20131220gmr_image008_zpsde2e6857.png.html)
That's a nice comparison chart for justifying my personal opinion the last year. Thanks. Just a matter of time....
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