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Gman
12-21-2013, 18:35
End of the line for the lead bullet? Regulations, bans force switch to 'green' ammo (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/21/end-line-for-lead-bullet-regulations-bans-force-switch-to-green-ammo/)Looks like the EPA is doing what the representative government can't.

The bid to ban lead bullets, seen by some as harmful to the environment, started slowly more than a decade ago. But with two dozen states, including California, banning bullets made of the soft, heavy metal, the lead bullet's epitaph was already being written when the federal government finished it off.

First, the military announced plans to phase out lead bullets by 2018.

"Whatever the EPA's motivation when creating the new lead air quality standard, increasingly restrictive regulation of lead is likely to affect the production and cost of traditional ammunition."
- National Rifle Association
Then the federal Environmental Protection Agency, citing emissions, ordered the shutdown of the Doe Run company's lead smelter in Herculaneum, Mo., by year's end.


Whether by state or federal regulation, or by market forces, lead bullets will be all but phased out within a few years in favor of so-called green bullets, experts say. While many believe that this will help the environment by keeping lead from contaminating groundwater, others say switching to copper-based bullets will cost hunters and sportsmen more and have little effect on the environment.

sniper7
12-21-2013, 19:07
Gold or silver bullets are the best.

merl
12-21-2013, 19:17
nothing new in that story.

Yes the mil is switching to lead free ammo, most likely due to political pressure. They still use DU, the last thing they can say is the are green. Mil doesnt pick up the cost though so if the commander in chief says stop using lead they say OK.
Yes the last lead ore smelter closed. So we'll ship all the ore to MX instead of most of it. Good thing lead is easily and commonly recycled, bullets will keep using that.

Dave
12-21-2013, 20:23
Gold or silver bullets are the best.

Gotta keep silver around for vampires.

<MADDOG>
12-21-2013, 20:26
I better run out and get a life-time supply of SMK's!

I think this was covered under a different thread..There are plenty of secondary/recycling refineries to take care of the lead demand in the US.

Big E3
12-21-2013, 20:33
I thought this was addressed back in May in Federal court.
http://www.nraila.org/legislation/federal-legislation/2013/5/federal-judge-dismisses-lawsuit-to-ban-traditional-ammunition.aspx

james_bond_007
12-21-2013, 21:28
Gold or silver bullets are the best.

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Great-Kazoo
12-21-2013, 21:58
I thought this was addressed back in May in Federal court.
http://www.nraila.org/legislation/federal-legislation/2013/5/federal-judge-dismisses-lawsuit-to-ban-traditional-ammunition.aspx

It was and even here a few times.

https://www.ar-15.co/threads/117915-Last-Remaining-Lead-Smelter-In-The-USA-Closing-After-120-Years?highlight=lead+smelter

Rabid
12-21-2013, 23:37
What facts did FauxNews' writer give us? Well the lead smelter shut down and the army is going green but he called it the "military" a few time. The rest of it was a blogger said this and someone else said that even though it has nothing to do with my opening statements. He is just trying to connect the dots without supporting facts to reach his opinion.

I am tired of the fear mongering on this topic.