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Hey guys, I've been looking into building my first AR-15 but I don't know too much about it. I was hoping you guys could give me some insight into what good brands would be and which to stay away from and how easy/hard it is. I'm going to be using it for recreational use at the range. Thanks for takingthe time to help out a fellow gun enthusiast!
TheBelly
12-23-2013, 04:33
Assembling an AR is really easy. REALLY easy.
most parts are standardized, but some might have minor figment issues.
as long as the bolt carrier group and barrel are of a reputable quality, then the rifle will work.
BPTactical
12-23-2013, 06:47
Some thoughts to ponder:
Are you wanting to build it to save money? You likely wont.
Quality parts are still scarce and "bargain" parts never are a "bargain".
Do you understand the platform and operation well enough to know what will work with what? Granted most components are fairly universal but a neophyte can run into problems they don't understand.
Do you have the correct tools and knowledge to properly assemble the rifle? It is false economy to buy $200.00 worth of tools for one build.
Everything goes together fine until a roll pin seizes or you break the trigger guard ear.
AR's are fairly straightforward to assemble but they do have their nuances and there are little things that will set apart an ordinary build from a first class build.
Not trying to discourage you at all but step back and look objectively at it.
I would suggest for a first rifle go with a factory rifle. Learn the platform and tweak it as you go. Then when you know what you want and what will work for you build your dream rifle.
Or pick up a complete upper from say PSA and assemble the lower of your choosing.
BP has pretty much said it all.
TheBelly touched on a very good point as well. If you want a rifle that is going to run properly, the two parts I wouldn't get cheap with are the barrel and the bolt carrier assembly.
And, as BP mentioned, if you don't already have some of the special tooling necessary to put the thing together, you can probably expect your cost to be well over $1000 even for a "budget" build.
Definitely not trying to discourage you. It's a fun hobby and you can have a rifle set up just the way you want when you get it done. Just trying to give you a dose of reality to make sure you know what you're jumping into.
[Beer]
TheBelly
12-23-2013, 08:35
To add to what Ray mentioned: here's a question....
do you have the requisite knowledge to understand the small but significant differences between twist rates, gas systems, buffer weights, etc. to really know what you want out of the gun.
If I were to give one piece of advice for this, it would be this: work with a well qualified gunsmith and tell him/her what you want the gun to you. Use a smaller local business. You will DEFINITELY get exactly what you want.
I'd suggest BP Tactical.
I'm not sure where to start with to reply haha
BP, I'm not wanting to build one to save money or anything, just so that I can learn more about guns and say that I built this one myself. I'm somewhat familiar with the AR platform, I do have one already and I break it down sometimes trying to learn how it works and what's what. I would love to work side by side with a gunsmith and learn more about guns but I don't know anyone who does.
StagLefty
12-23-2013, 13:14
Take your time and get your "needed tools" if you really want to do a complete build. There are loads of you tube build helps available for any particular segment of a build.
blacklabel
12-23-2013, 13:41
Are you wanting to do a full build or just put together a lower and mate it to a completed upper?
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Whatever you do, do NOT buy an AR-Stoner BCG. Junk.
Are you wanting to do a full build or just put together a lower and mate it to a completed upper?
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I was wanting to fully build it from the ground up, not just slap together an upper and lower.
$200! What tools do y'all buy!? A 5lb hammer, flat blade screw driver and sawzall cost me $19.95 at HF.
There is a forum that talks about such things.
Barrels-Uppers-and-Lowers (https://www.ar-15.co/forums/101-Barrels-Uppers-and-Lowers?)
$200! What tools do y'all buy!? A 5lb hammer, flat blade screw driver and sawzall cost me $19.95 at HF.
There is a forum that talks about such things.
Barrels-Uppers-and-Lowers (https://www.ar-15.co/forums/101-Barrels-Uppers-and-Lowers?)
$200 what? Thanks for the link, I'll have to check that out when I get off of work tonight.
So what company makes a good barrel then? I want to do a free floating barrel for the build.
free floating the barrel has to do with the handguards, nothing to do with the barrel
but for this step you need to figure out;
caliber (556, 5.45, 300blk, 7.62 etc)
lined/unlined(chrome, melonited, NIB, chrome molly, etc)
length of barrel (7-24")
length of gas system (pistol, carbine, mid, rifle)
rifling twist rate (1/7 thru 1/12)
profile (pencil, gov, m4, heavy, target, bull etc)
generally noveske and white oak barrels are considered the best. DPMS makes pretty good ones for the price.
You really should pick an intended purpose with priorities given to longevity, accuracy, weight etc
$200 what? Thanks for the link, I'll have to check that out when I get off of work tonight.
you need an armorers wrench and an upper reciever block at the VERY least.
jerrymrc
12-24-2013, 18:19
$200! What tools do y'all buy!? A 5lb hammer, flat blade screw driver and sawzall cost me $19.95 at HF.
Thought those were tools to build an AK. Big rock helps as well. [LOL]
BPTactical
12-24-2013, 18:37
$200! What tools do y'all buy!? A 5lb hammer, flat blade screw driver and sawzall cost me $19.95 at HF.
Thought those were tools to build an AK. Big rock helps as well. [LOL]
Yeah, but when you build a FAL you have to use a calibrated big rock.[Hyper]
I was going to go with the 14.5 for this barrel.
http://shopnoveske.com/collections/barrels/products/lightweight-5-56mm-stainless-barrel
And this is going to be the handguard I was gonna go with.
http://fortismfg.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=63
What do you guys think of that set up so far with a black rain ordinance upper and lower.
free floating the barrel has to do with the handguards, nothing to do with the barrel
but for this step you need to figure out;
caliber (556, 5.45, 300blk, 7.62 etc)
lined/unlined(chrome, melonited, NIB, chrome molly, etc)
length of barrel (7-24")
length of gas system (pistol, carbine, mid, rifle)
rifling twist rate (1/7 thru 1/12)
profile (pencil, gov, m4, heavy, target, bull etc)
generally noveske and white oak barrels are considered the best. DPMS makes pretty good ones for the price.
You really should pick an intended purpose with priorities given to longevity, accuracy, weight etc
I was going to go with the 14.5 for this barrel.
http://shopnoveske.com/collections/barrels/products/lightweight-5-56mm-stainless-barrel
And this is going to be the handguard I was gonna go with.
http://fortismfg.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=63
What do you guys think of that set up so far with a black rain ordinance upper and lower.
You going to pin you own flash hider to 16"?
Having built 6 AR's, in my experience it is what YOU want. I really haven't come across any junk so far and I shoot them all (before I sold them) a lot.
Also. Once you peice together one, you are inevitably going to put together another... so go with what you want... have fun and shoot it a bunch, and start on your next build.
This may not work for you now... because many people are looking for OPSEC. But what I did was peruse the "build your own" threads, looking for components that gave me the look I wanted... Bought them, and put it all together.
Here is some eye candy to get you started:
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You going to pin you own flash hider to 16"?
I guess I don't know too much about building an AR, what do you mean?
I guess the only reason I'm asking what you guys think is because I don't know what are reputable brands and what's crap. I definetly want to do this because I would like to build something completely custom that I can call my own.
I guess I don't know too much about building an AR, what do you mean?.
If you put a barrel on a rifle that is shorter than 16" you are looking at a "federal pound-me-in-the-ass-prison" offense.
Take the first picture to the left on my last post. It has a 14.5" M4 contoured barrel, but the flash hider is permanently attached by a gunsmith (pinned and welded) to make the barrel at least 16". If you have anything shorter than 16" you technically have a short-barreled rifle. If you want to go that route, start researching NFA regulations.
I guess the only reason I'm asking what you guys think is because I don't know what are reputable brands and what's crap. I definetly want to do this because I would like to build something completely custom that I can call my own.
Everyone starts somewhere. This is the place to ask questions. That is why I built my first one... I wanted something I new inside and out and besides machining the item myself, was MINE, and what I wanted.
Be careful of extra pieces, they turn into more rifles.
In my honest opinion... with brands you will get those who like Chevy's and those who like Fords. If the company has been around for a while they either 1) don't make crap 2) make crap some of the time but stand by their stuff and make it right, or 3) people just keep buying crap from them and don't build rifles with the components. lol
Don't loose your ambition to take on a project. if you hit a brick wall you have joined the right forum, there is many many years of experience here, and even some professionals here that can help bail you out of a bind.
Ohhh haha I was just confused by what you had said. I'll either go that route or just go with a 16 inch barrel instead then. Thank you for clarifying though.
That's the way I'm looking at it, I'd like to be able to know how to build one and say I did it myself. I kinda figured this would be a good place to come to ask these kind of questions, especially since it's all local.
BPTactical
12-24-2013, 21:33
If you need the pin/weld done I just happen to know somebody who is pretty good at it
If you need the pin/weld done I just happen to know somebody who is pretty good at it
^ Yeah, that guy ^
I have lots of work for him, I just need to call.
I actually know a guy up here in foco that's a gunsmith who could do it for me. Thanks for the offer though!
I was going to go with the 14.5 for this barrel.
http://shopnoveske.com/collections/barrels/products/lightweight-5-56mm-stainless-barrel
And this is going to be the handguard I was gonna go with.
http://fortismfg.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=63
What do you guys think of that set up so far with a black rain ordinance upper and lower.
with a quality bcg it should turn into a fine rifle
with a quality bcg it should turn into a fine rifle
I'm a complete novice when it comes to this stuff, BCG?
JM Ver. 2.0
12-25-2013, 10:31
I'm a complete novice when it comes to this stuff, BCG?
Bolt carrier group.
Sent from my teepee using smoke signals.
Ahhhh ok hah that's what I thought. This is the BCG I'm looking at
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-Bolt-Carrier-Group-MPI-Auto-M16-p/bcm%20bolt%20carrier%20group%20auto%20mp.htm
theGinsue
12-27-2013, 03:10
I like BCM just fine.
My 3 simple pieces of advice are this:
1). Get a metal lower, not a polymer lower. Plenty of folks will argue against this, but plenty of others will give horror stories of those lowers failing. Why take the chance?
2). Avoid doing business with RGuns like the plague. Their products are okay (NOT high end, but usable), if & when you finally get them. They have the worst customer service I've ever encountered.
3). If you're looking at a .223/5.56 gun, go with a lower that is made for 5.56 or "multi" versus .223. It probably won't be obvious right away, but shooting the higher pressure 5.56 out of a .223 lower will cause stress damage to the lower.
If you're just planning on shooting the AR for recreational shooting, the barrel twist rate and length isn't so important (so long as you've got 16" or a tax stamp for an SBR). But, if you're looking to shoot long range, competition, or varmint hunting, the intended purpose should drive the barrel choice.
Just some thoughts.
DangerLee_Industries
12-27-2013, 04:45
It's threads like this that really show how we are more of a community around here than simply just another gun forum. Good luck with your build and welcome to the downward spiral that used to be your bank account.......
[Beer]
nisils14
12-27-2013, 04:50
Essential parts to any AR platform rifle.
lower receiver
lower parts kit
rec. extension/ buttstock kit
upper receiver
bolt carrier group
charging handle
barrel
gas block/FSB
gas tube and associated pins
handguard
magazines
And depending on your parts selection you might need the following
delta pack kit
ejection port cover kit
forward assist kit
muzzle device
barrel nut
Rear sight parts
There is details I'm missing but that's most of it. It's a metric shit ton of options for just about every part imaginable, you just need to research it and figure out everything you want.
Watch these:
http://www.youtube.com/user/MidwayUSA/search?query=ar+15
I like BCM just fine.
My 3 simple pieces of advice are this:
1). Get a metal lower, not a polymer lower. Plenty of folks will argue against this, but plenty of others will give horror stories of those lowers failing. Why take the chance?
2). Avoid doing business with RGuns like the plague. Their products are okay (NOT high end, but usable), if & when you finally get them. They have the worst customer service I've ever encountered.
3). If you're looking at a .223/5.56 gun, go with a lower that is made for 5.56 or "multi" versus .223. It probably won't be obvious right away, but shooting the higher pressure 5.56 out of a .223 lower will cause stress damage to the lower.
If you're just planning on shooting the AR for recreational shooting, the barrel twist rate and length isn't so important (so long as you've got 16" or a tax stamp for an SBR). But, if you're looking to shoot long range, competition, or varmint hunting, the intended purpose should drive the barrel choice.
Just some thoughts.
I appreciate your input on this. I was planning on going with a metal upper and lower already. I'm not too sure if the upper/lower I was looking at buying is for 556 or "multi" but now that you've said that I'll have to go check it out. As far as the barrel goes I was just going to go with a 1 in 8 or a 1 in 9 twist seeing as it'll be used for.recreational shooting and I won't be using any bigger loads than 55gr.
Essential parts to any AR platform rifle.
lower receiver
lower parts kit
rec. extension/ buttstock kit
upper receiver
bolt carrier group
charging handle
barrel
gas block/FSB
gas tube and associated pins
handguard
magazines
And depending on your parts selection you might need the following
delta pack kit
ejection port cover kit
forward assist kit
muzzle device
barrel nut
Rear sight parts
There is details I'm missing but that's most of it. It's a metric shit ton of options for just about every part imaginable, you just need to research it and figure out everything you want.
Watch these:
http://www.youtube.com/user/MidwayUSA/search?query=ar+15
Just basing it off the list you've made there it looks like I've got everything picked.out that I'll need, now.just to buy it all and watch my bank account cry a little hah. I have noticed that there are so many options for every single little thing on the gun, I ended up picking one or two options for each part that I liked then started researching both and comparing them and just narrowed my decision down that until I had it all sorted out.
Just basing it off the list you've made there it looks like I've got everything picked.out that I'll need, now.just to buy it all and watch my bank account cry a little hah. I have noticed that there are so many options for every single little thing on the gun, I ended up picking one or two options for each part that I liked then started researching both and comparing them and just narrowed my decision down that until I had it all sorted out.
Go for it! Take your time, no shortcuts, ask questions, learn and be safe.
Go for it! Take your time, no shortcuts, ask questions, learn and be safe.
AND post pictures if you are not crazy into OPSEC. We want to see!
I definetly plan on taking my time with this, not only to make sure I get everything perfect but also because I don't have enough funds to buy it all right now, Christmas took a chunk of that. I'll definetly post up some pictures though so you guys can see how it's coming along.
osok-308
01-01-2014, 10:42
Amazing way to get you very familiar with your rifle. If you can't find certain parts locally, Palmetto State Armory is a cheap place, but expect a long wait for your stuff. I like my mid length gas system a ton for my 16" barrel though.
Just basing it off the list you've made there it looks like I've got everything picked.out that I'll need, now.just to buy it all and watch my bank account cry a little hah. I have noticed that there are so many options for every single little thing on the gun, I ended up picking one or two options for each part that I liked then started researching both and comparing them and just narrowed my decision down that until I had it all sorted out.
1) Learn laws applicable to firearm construction
2) Decide on budget and get the best barrel and BCG you can in your budget
3) For all but the greatest amounts of abuse a mil-spec lower is a mil-spec lower and the differences are negligible.
4) Proper torque is key, so buy the right tools to begin with and the will be used extensively for your next 10 or so builds.
5) Watch about 10 different youtube videos start to finish before beginning, one of them is bound to be correct.
6) Take your time and have fun.
osok-308
01-01-2014, 16:36
1) Learn laws applicable to firearm construction
2) Decide on budget and get the best barrel and BCG you can in your budget
3) For all but the greatest amounts of abuse a mil-spec lower is a mil-spec lower and the differences are negligible.
4) Proper torque is key, so buy the right tools to begin with and the will be used extensively for your next 10 or so builds.
5) Watch about 10 different youtube videos start to finish before beginning, one of them is bound to be correct.
6) Take your time and have fun.
^^^ This x1000
Everyone has told me that the barrel and BCG are the most important so I took a lot of time looking into them and I've decided on the Bravo company BCG and a noveske 16 inch barrel.
I was planning on watching some YouTube videos to help me out with most of the things that I don't know how to do, I know how to do some of it but a lot of it is a mystery to me haha
I've decided on the Bravo company BCG and a noveske 16 inch barrel.
Both are excellent choices. Just be aware that the Noveske barrel will probably set you back about $450 and will most likely be difficult to find in stock. If money becomes a factor, you could go with something from BCM or Daniel Defense for around $250.
Both are excellent choices. Just be aware that the Noveske barrel will probably set you back about $450 and will most likely be difficult to find in stock. If money becomes a factor, you could go with something from BCM or Daniel Defense for around $250.
Would you recommend me waiting until I can get my hands on a Noveske barrel or should I just get a BCM or DD? The only real reason I chose Noveske was because I've heard nothing but good things about them and that they're high quality, durable and have good longevity.
Would you recommend me waiting until I can get my hands on a Noveske barrel or should I just get a BCM or DD? The only real reason I chose Noveske was because I've heard nothing but good things about them and that they're high quality, durable and have good longevity.
All 3 are great companies, and make quality gear. Only you could answer whether the extra cash and time for a Noveske barrel would be worth it to you, but given this is your first AR, I'd suspect that you'd do very well with either of the other two. You are not "cheaping out" getting a DD or BCM as neither is a budget/low-end option.
All 3 are great companies, and make quality gear. Only you could answer whether the extra cash and time for a Noveske barrel would be worth it to you, but given this is your first AR, I'd suspect that you'd do very well with either of the other two. You are not "cheaping out" getting a DD or BCM as neither is a budget/low-end option.
This.
I've been assembling and enjoying AR type rifles since 1992 and still haven't brought myself to spend the money on a Noveske barrel. The hammer forged barrels you can get from BCM or DD are probably higher quality than the barrels out military uses on their rifles and should last a very long time.
This.
I've been assembling and enjoying AR type rifles since 1992 and still haven't brought myself to spend the money on a Noveske barrel. The hammer forged barrels you can get from BCM or DD are probably higher quality than the barrels out military uses on their rifles and should last a very long time.
Great point and probably worth mentioning... since you have decided you want a 16" barrel, you still have a couple decisions to make.
1) As ray mentioned above, BCM (and others) often have different grades of barrels. Some may be lightweight, some have thicker chrome plating, etc. I agree that the "BFH" hammer forged barrels from BCM are worth the extra cost - you may not ever end up shooting it enough to notice the difference in wear, but it's probably good insurance spent. If you have the extra money and aren't 100% sure what you want, nobody is going to tell you that a Bravo Company BFH barrel is anything but a good choice.
2) You should read up on carbine vs. mid-length gas systems - a 16" barrel can be either. Frankly either one is fine, but you should understand the differences and make a deliberate decision. In general a midlength gives you a slightly longer gas system meaning your handguards will usually be slightly longer and (in theory at least) you have a little less wear due to pressure differences. The carbine length is still more common and is the default way to go unless you're interested in the potential benefits of the mid.
I don't remember seeing it - did you decide on what profile of barrel you want and whether you're doing a FSB or gas block?
Among 5.56 AR-15, I have four barrel mfr in the herd, everything else has been sent down the road.
Noveske
BCM BFH
DD
PSA FN M249 barrel
Among 5.56 AR-15, I have four barrel mfr in the herd, everything else has been sent down the road.
Noveske
BCM BFH
DD
PSA FN M249 barrel
Those PSA barrels are very nice in that price range. I'd probably have a few more of them if it weren't for their crappy customer service.
Great point and probably worth mentioning... since you have decided you want a 16" barrel, you still have a couple decisions to make.
1) As ray mentioned above, BCM (and others) often have different grades of barrels. Some may be lightweight, some have thicker chrome plating, etc. I agree that the "BFH" hammer forged barrels from BCM are worth the extra cost - you may not ever end up shooting it enough to notice the difference in wear, but it's probably good insurance spent. If you have the extra money and aren't 100% sure what you want, nobody is going to tell you that a Bravo Company BFH barrel is anything but a good choice.
2) You should read up on carbine vs. mid-length gas systems - a 16" barrel can be either. Frankly either one is fine, but you should understand the differences and make a deliberate decision. In general a midlength gives you a slightly longer gas system meaning your handguards will usually be slightly longer and (in theory at least) you have a little less wear due to pressure differences. The carbine length is still more common and is the default way to go unless you're interested in the potential benefits of the mid.
I don't remember seeing it - did you decide on what profile of barrel you want and whether you're doing a FSB or gas block?
I will have to do more research then on which I'd want, either mid or carbine. What do you mean what profile barrel? I feel stupid asking all of these questions hah I was going to go with the fortis low profile gas block.
http://fortismfg.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=71
What do you guys think of that set up so far with a black rain ordinance upper and lower.
I built mine on a Black Rain set and love it! I have an early set, serial number below 100, so I don't know if they have changed anything on their current stuff. Customer service is pretty good too. I had a machined issue with my upper and they swamped it out no questions asked. Great fit and finish on the receiver set. Looking into doing an AR10 as a graduation gift to myself, and will, more than likely, use their Fallout 10 set. Found my photobucket info so here are a couple of pics.
http:// (http://<a href="http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/baetis1911/media/CIMG6706.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/baetis1911/CIMG6706.jpg</a>)http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/baetis1911/CIMG6706.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/baetis1911/media/CIMG6706.jpg.html)
http:// (http://<a href="http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/baetis1911/media/CIMG6703.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/baetis1911/CIMG6703.jpg</a>)http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/baetis1911/CIMG6703.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/baetis1911/media/CIMG6703.jpg.html)
http:// (http://<a href="http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/baetis1911/media/CIMG6708.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/baetis1911/CIMG6708.jpg</a>)http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd436/baetis1911/CIMG6708.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/user/baetis1911/media/CIMG6708.jpg.html)
That thing is absolutely beautiful man! That's the exact same body that I was going to get. My local shop showed it to me awhile ago and I fell in love with it when I saw it. I'm gonna get their dust cover too that says "let it rain"
Not trying to steer you away from the Black Rain stuff, but there is a company in Longmont called Shadow Ops Weaponry that manufactures their own lowers (among other cool things). They even have a billet one and offer tons of custom options. My current project is based on one of their billet lowers.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m98/rjs1970/Mobile%20Uploads/photo_zpse0dfa9ae.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m98/rjs1970/Mobile%20Uploads/photo_zps5dab2b67.jpg
That thing is absolutely beautiful man! That's the exact same body that I was going to get. My local shop showed it to me awhile ago and I fell in love with it when I saw it. I'm gonna get their dust cover too that says "let it rain"
Thanks! I want a "Let it rain" dust over as well. I just have never pulled the trigger on it. I figure I already have one so it isn't a priority.
Not trying to steer you away from the Black Rain stuff, but there is a company in Longmont called Shadow Ops Weaponry that manufactures their own lowers (among other cool things). They even have a billet one and offer tons of custom options. My current project is based on one of their billet lowers.
I'll definetly have to look into them, I'm big into supporting local shops. That's a nice piece!
Thanks! I want a "Let it rain" dust over as well. I just have never pulled the trigger on it. I figure I already have one so it isn't a priority.
See that's where I'm lucky right now hah I get to customize every little bit of the gun to what I want. I think that dust cover would just be a nice little touch. Then with somw Noveske body pins too just cause haha
I will have to do more research then on which I'd want, either mid or carbine. What do you mean what profile barrel? I feel stupid asking all of these questions hah I was going to go with the fortis low profile gas block.
http://fortismfg.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=71
mid is all the rage right now, and commands a slight premium.
here's picture heaven of barrel profile comparisons
https://www.google.com/search?q=ar15+barrel+profiles&client=firefox-a&hs=Gqd&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=JETGUsqsC9DwoAT8o4KgBw&ved=0CCwQsAQ&biw=1600&bih=749
Bassically it's the thickness of the walls of the barrel all the way along.
Great-Kazoo
01-02-2014, 23:12
I'll definetly have to look into them, I'm big into supporting local shops. That's a nice piece!
Or another industry member DD / Double D armory.
So which would be better than for a free float barrel?
The profile relates to how much weight you want out front.
How much total weight you want.
How many rounds it can fire before heat effects accuracy.
How many rounds it can fire rapidly before permanent damage.
Typically you see heavy. Government. And m4 profiles on general purpose builds.
Caithford
01-03-2014, 10:28
Someone linked this video series that Brownells did and I found it incredibly educating. And it was effing cool too. My first build I put together a stripped lower and bought a complete upper. My second build might be a custom upper too, we'll see. Check it out, even if you don't use it for a reference, it'll show you the general process. They also have purchasing checklists and the lists of tools you need (some may be extraneous, but it'll give you an idea).
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/lid=11004/learn/
Good luck. I agree with everyone else, it's all about having fun. Be safe.
One thing to think about - I doubt anyone here would disagree...
Instead of trying to get everything you need/want on one rifle, realize this is a disease and you're likely to end up building another upper if not an entire rifle at some point. So for example, build up a good 16" carbine M4 setup the first time and shoot it up and enjoy it. Then figure you're going to want to put together a 20" govt profile setup at some point for "long range" or whatever. If you're unlucky, you'll get bit by the NFA bug and decide you can't live without a 10.5 or 12.5 short barreled upper too, with a noveske pig - or eventually a suppressor. Maybe a slide fire stock or a 22lr conversion kit (or a 22 upper). Plus now that you have 3-4 uppers, someone's going to point you to a sale on stripped lowers, so you might as well build up the lowers to match all those guns, too. And then you'll have several rifles, a box of leftover parts that you'll be trying to sell/trade on the boards just like the rest of us, and you'll be eating ramen because you can't afford steak anymore.
LOL - really though, my only point is not to stress over it too much. Most guys when they build their first rifle spend a ton of time stressing over the parts. I'm betting everyone has been in your shoes at some point. The good thing about the AR platform is you can always switch it out, and you're likely to keep messing with it as you go anyway. :) Pick a good set up, or copy someone's and get shooting. SAVE SOME MONEY FOR AMMO - it's still stupid expensive. Lots of good advice here and on other boards, but nothing will be as good as your own personal impressions and needs once you get to shooting your gun.
One thing to think about - I doubt anyone here would disagree...
Instead of trying to get everything you need/want on one rifle, realize this is a disease and you're likely to end up building another upper if not an entire rifle at some point. So for example, build up a good 16" carbine M4 setup the first time and shoot it up and enjoy it. Then figure you're going to want to put together a 20" govt profile setup at some point for "long range" or whatever. If you're unlucky, you'll get bit by the NFA bug and decide you can't live without a 10.5 or 12.5 short barreled upper too, with a noveske pig - or eventually a suppressor. Maybe a slide fire stock or a 22lr conversion kit (or a 22 upper). Plus now that you have 3-4 uppers, someone's going to point you to a sale on stripped lowers, so you might as well build up the lowers to match all those guns, too. And then you'll have several rifles, a box of leftover parts that you'll be trying to sell/trade on the boards just like the rest of us, and you'll be eating ramen because you can't afford steak anymore.
LOL - really though, my only point is not to stress over it too much. Most guys when they build their first rifle spend a ton of time stressing over the parts. I'm betting everyone has been in your shoes at some point. The good thing about the AR platform is you can always switch it out, and you're likely to keep messing with it as you go anyway. :) Pick a good set up, or copy someone's and get shooting. SAVE SOME MONEY FOR AMMO - it's still stupid expensive. Lots of good advice here and on other boards, but nothing will be as good as your own personal impressions and needs once you get to shooting your gun.
Hah the sad part about this is, I could see that exact situation happening to me. I guess I just wanna make sure that for my first build I'm buying quality parts so that it will be a long lasting gun. Like you said though, I'll probably make more and keep messing with them and switching things out. I really appreciate all the help I've gotten from everyone on here, I didn't think a gun forum wouldv'e been so welcoming haha
Great-Kazoo
01-04-2014, 12:40
One thing to think about - I doubt anyone here would disagree...
Instead of trying to get everything you need/want on one rifle, realize this is a disease and you're likely to end up building another upper if not an entire rifle at some point. So for example, build up a good 16" carbine M4 setup the first time and shoot it up and enjoy it. Then figure you're going to want to put together a 20" govt profile setup at some point for "long range" or whatever. If you're unlucky, you'll get bit by the NFA bug and decide you can't live without a 10.5 or 12.5 short barreled upper too, with a noveske pig - or eventually a suppressor. Maybe a slide fire stock or a 22lr conversion kit (or a 22 upper). Plus now that you have 3-4 uppers, someone's going to point you to a sale on stripped lowers, so you might as well build up the lowers to match all those guns, too. And then you'll have several rifles, a box of leftover parts that you'll be trying to sell/trade on the boards just like the rest of us, and you'll be eating ramen because you can't afford steak anymore.
LOL - really though, my only point is not to stress over it too much. Most guys when they build their first rifle spend a ton of time stressing over the parts. I'm betting everyone has been in your shoes at some point. The good thing about the AR platform is you can always switch it out, and you're likely to keep messing with it as you go anyway. :) Pick a good set up, or copy someone's and get shooting. SAVE SOME MONEY FOR AMMO - it's still stupid expensive. Lots of good advice here and on other boards, but nothing will be as good as your own personal impressions and needs once you get to shooting your gun.
Which is where all the FOR SALE: used / take off tubes, bbls, optics, f/hiders etc are wallowing. Someones great build idea 2 months ago is for sale today.
Put a list together of your ideal build, then one for a basic shoot and go from there build. If not the trading post section, i have boxes of take offs collecting dust. Almost Free AMIGO, almost free
theGinsue
01-04-2014, 13:37
I really appreciate all the help I've gotten from everyone on here, I didn't think a gun forum wouldv'e been so welcoming haha
I joined several sites before I found this one. In almost every occasion I was mocked for my ignorance when I asked questions. When I joined COAR I was afraid I'd get more of the same thing. I was relieved and pleasantly surprised when I found out this place has a different breed of membership - people who really enjoy the sport & want to help others. As you can see from my post count, I dived in head first and haven't looked back. I love this community!
I joined several sites before I found this one. In almost every occasion I was mocked for my ignorance when I asked questions. When I joined COAR I was afraid I'd get more of the same thing. I was relieved and pleasantly surprised when I found out this place has a different breed of membership - people who really enjoy the sport & want to help others. As you can see from my post count, I dived in head first and haven't looked back. I love this community!
Well, that's one theory. The other theory is that you're just the smartest one here and the rest of us are the ignorant ones. ;)
Some musings.
I have been doing a lot of reading on audiophile forms lately. The best advice I've seen is "define what you want and stick to it".
What kind of AR-15 do you want? Home defense, range gun, plinker, competition, hunting, ultra light, handy, hood ornament...?
Have you had any time behind a "stock" AR-15? That might be a place to start. Figure out what works for you and what doesn't.
Don't get too caught up in the "best" parts. There are a lot of quality mid-grade parts that will work just fine.
I joined several sites before I found this one. In almost every occasion I was mocked for my ignorance when I asked questions.
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Some musings.
I have been doing a lot of reading on audiophile forms lately. The best advice I've seen is "define what you want and stick to it".
What kind of AR-15 do you want? Home defense, range gun, plinker, competition, hunting, ultra light, handy, hood ornament...?
Have you had any time behind a "stock" AR-15? That might be a place to start. Figure out what works for you and what doesn't.
Don't get too caught up in the "best" parts. There are a lot of quality mid-grade parts that will work just fine.
Yes I have a lot of trigger time with an AR already, I have a stock one right now.
As for what I'm building it for, it'll mainly be used for range shooting and a lot of it. I've thought about trying out some 3 gun competitions but I really need to work on everything before I even consider stepping up to that.
Good thread for me to read so far. I have two shadow ops lowers on order for my first builds. [UZI]
10mm-man
03-06-2014, 23:24
Good thread for me to read so far. I have two shadow ops lowers on order for my first builds. [UZI]
1st builds??? Thought for sure you would be on at least #50 already...
Hey guys, It's been awhile since I've posted on this thread so I figured I'd drop in to give you guys a little update on my build. I have officially starting buying parts for the build! It feels good to finally get the ball rolling on it. So far the parts I've bought for the build are.....
Magpul ACS-L Stock
Magpul angled foregrip
Magpul grip
Magpul Pro metal flip up sights front/rear
Magpul extended trigger guard
Tapco rear sling mount
BCM charging handle
PWS FSC
Buffer tube, spring and other misc parts that I don't remember the brand of hah
That's what I've bought so far for the build, The parts I'm still purchasing are...
Failzero nickel boron complete BCG
Diamondhead VRS-T 15inch modular rai
Fortis low profie gas block
Rockriver two stage match trigger
KNS roll pin
I still haven't decided on the barre yet, I do know I want to go with a 16inch freefloat, I would love to have it twist fluted.
Same goes for the upper/lower receiver, I was thinking of getting an 80% milled lower but everyone says that if I do the upper and lower won't fit together as nicely (Compared to getting a full upper/lower set from Noveske, BCM, Rockriver, etc.)
Well, That's all I've got so far on my build. If anyone has any input on what I've got going on so far, Please share! Have a great day guys and gals!
kidicarus13
04-05-2014, 16:48
Used to use RRA 2-stage triggers until I started reading about problems with them at higher round counts. I replaced them. Lots of info online about it. For the $ you'll spend ...
Used to use RRA 2-stage triggers until I started reading about problems with them at higher round counts. I replaced them. Lots of info online about it. For the $ you'll spend ...
I'd stay away
ALG makes a nice cheap trigger Giselle makes really nice expensive ones....that's all I'd be looking at
Also I'd go wmd guns NiB bcg it's nicer then the fail zero and drop the kns pins
I'd stay away
ALG makes a nice cheap trigger Giselle makes really nice expensive ones....that's all I'd be looking at
Also I'd go wmd guns NiB bcg it's nicer then the fail zero and drop the kns pins
Alright, I'll look into those companies for triggers then, I was just playing with an AR at my local shop that had the RR trigger and I loved it hah
With the BCG I was originally going to go with the spikes tactical but the gunsmith at my local shop said that failzero makes really nice BCG's. Also, why do you say drop the KNS?
Like I stated way earlier in this thread I don't know too much about building an AR, so I'm just gonna pick your guys brain on this hah because it is something I do want to learn more about.
RonMexico
04-05-2014, 23:00
Save your money and buy the spike. I have a few spikes, bcm and a single NiBoron BCG. I like the quality of the spike and haven't had a single issue with them and I shoot any and all types of ammo.
When I switched to all alg triggers in my guns, I took out the kns pins bc you really don't need them. Spend the extra $30 on a better trigger.
Save your money and buy the spike. I have a few spikes, bcm and a single NiBoron BCG. I like the quality of the spike and haven't had a single issue with them and I shoot any and all types of ammo.
When I switched to all alg triggers in my guns, I took out the kns pins bc you really don't need them. Spend the extra $30 on a better trigger.
The FailZero BCG is $200 and comes with a nickelboron hammer as well, the spikes is $225. I was informed that Failzero is the company that actually does the coating for spikes tactical.
I'm gonna look into the ALG triggers now actually.
Fail does the coatings for spikes...... my current hd upper rocks a spikes NiB bcg it has been flawless for over 15,0000 rounds
That being said my next upper will be rocking a wmd guns bcg because I hate the stupid spider logo
From all the reviews I've read the wmd guns bcg is superior to the failzero
Fail does the coatings for spikes...... my current hd upper rocks a spikes NiB bcg it has been flawless for over 15,0000 rounds
That being said my next upper will be rocking a wmd guns bcg because I hate the stupid spider logo
From all the reviews I've read the wmd guns bcg is superior to the failzero
Yea I wasn't a huge fan of that spider logo on there hah Luckily I haven't bought a BCG yet so I still have some time to figure out which I'll be going with.
So, I'm looking at the wmd BCG's right now, What's the difference between the full auto and semi auto BCG? Is the full auto just more durable or what?
rockhound
04-07-2014, 07:53
hmmmm, not to rain on your parade, but i see a rifle in your future that does not shoot worth a crap. for what your are going to spend in tools parts and time, get yourself a factory built rifle that works properly, your can make it your own at any time, or have a professional build you one. I am not saying that you could not figure it out, but when I see your post asking someone to clarify what a BCG is, i would say that you are a true novice and if you want to enjoy your rifle have it built or by one that is factory built.
Your first AR, you are not even sure what a full auto or semi auto BCG is, I liken this to a first time skydiver wanting to pack his own chute. Dangerous and a waste of money, FTF, FTE, hangfires and any number of other likely and highly dangerous situations are in your future. I think your are unnecessarily placing yourself and others that may be at the range with you in jeopardy.
If you are going to build it yourself get with someone who has at least done them successfully.
you cannot not be building your rifle with a full auto BCG. this is for a select fire build full auto, federally controlled part. please dont continue in this endeavor
rockhound
04-07-2014, 07:56
WTF guys, i know that we are into giving advice and helping others get into the sport of shooting and enjoying their rifles,
novice shooter, Ar owner, too many questions to be had for this guy to even attempt this, Looking at parts that are illegal to build with. Am i the only one here that wants to discourage him?
Just to clarify for others, i understand that legality depends on how the rest of the gun is built.
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-Bolt-Carrier-Group-MPI-Auto-M16-p/bcm%20bolt%20carrier%20group%20auto%20mp.htm
Read the full description on the BCM auto BCG. Nothing wrong with an auto BCG.
rockhound
04-07-2014, 08:27
i have seen information on both sides on this deal. i understnad that if the rest of the rifle cannot shoot full auto then it should be legal however,
legality aside we are encouraging a guy that obviously has no clue what he is doing. sorry i dont mean to be an ass, but you can bet that i do not want to be standing next to him on the range when his weapon fails. thinks a full auto BCG is just more durable.
it may be more durable, that would depend on the manufacturer,
i read through the posting and it seems that this is just a bad idea without some competent supervision. i have owned an ar for at least 5 years and can take them apart and put them back together easily, i am extremely mechanical have built cars and houses from scratch. i would still want a professional to put my rifle together.
I guess it would be different if he had more of an idea of what a BCG was in the first place.
hmmmm, not to rain on your parade, but i see a rifle in your future that does not shoot worth a crap. for what your are going to spend in tools parts and time, get yourself a factory built rifle that works properly, your can make it your own at any time, or have a professional build you one. I am not saying that you could not figure it out, but when I see your post asking someone to clarify what a BCG is, i would say that you are a true novice and if you want to enjoy your rifle have it built or by one that is factory built.
Your first AR, you are not even sure what a full auto or semi auto BCG is, I liken this to a first time skydiver wanting to pack his own chute. Dangerous and a waste of money, FTF, FTE, hangfires and any number of other likely and highly dangerous situations are in your future. I think your are unnecessarily placing yourself and others that may be at the range with you in jeopardy.
If you are going to build it yourself get with someone who has at least done them successfully.
you cannot not be building your rifle with a full auto BCG. this is for a select fire build full auto, federally controlled part. please dont continue in this endeavor
WTF indeed. Untrue, bad advice. STFU and take a chill pill.
Hangfires from a choice of BCG? [LOL]
WTF guys, i know that we are into giving advice and helping others get into the sport of shooting and enjoying their rifles,
novice shooter, Ar owner, too many questions to be had for this guy to even attempt this, Looking at parts that are illegal to build with. Am i the only one here that wants to discourage him?
Just to clarify for others, i understand that legality depends on how the rest of the gun is built.
There you go again with the "illegal" parts. Who's the novice?
The implication that a FA BCG is going to somehow make a weapon potentially "illegal" is laughable at best.
i have seen information on both sides on this deal. i understnad that if the rest of the rifle cannot shoot full auto then it should be legal however,
legality aside we are encouraging a guy that obviously has no clue what he is doing. sorry i dont mean to be an ass, but you can bet that i do not want to be standing next to him on the range when his weapon fails. thinks a full auto BCG is just more durable.
it may be more durable, that would depend on the manufacturer,
i read through the posting and it seems that this is just a bad idea without some competent supervision. i have owned an ar for at least 5 years and can take them apart and put them back together easily, i am extremely mechanical have built cars and houses from scratch. i would still want a professional to put my rifle together.
I guess it would be different if he had more of an idea of what a BCG was in the first place.
You are being an ass. Instead of offering constructive criticism and trying to be helpful, you are coming down hard on a new member that's just trying to learn. If you don't have something positive to add, STFU and let someone else help.
The real irony is your own lack of knowledge.
you cannot not be building your rifle with a full auto BCG. this is for a select fire build full auto, federally controlled part. please dont continue in this endeavor
That is totally wrong advice full auto bcg is gtg
Also these rifles couldn't be easier to build there is no actual gunsmithing like on an ak or 1911 build its just bolting parts together
If you can change your oil you can build an ar
rockhound
04-07-2014, 10:49
WTF indeed. Untrue, bad advice. STFU and take a chill pill.
Hangfires from a choice of BCG?
Dude read the post, I never said the BCG would cause a hangfire,
What i said was trying to build your own AR-15 when you have absolutley no idea what the parts are even called is a bad idea and can cause all kinds of issues.
YOU Cannot read also as i said:
Just to clarify for others, i understand that legality depends on how the rest of the gun is built.
which is laymans terms of what the ATF says
i undrstand that it also takes other parts to mak it illegal
So you can STFU, if you think that a complete novice should just jump into building their own ar with no professional help you are asking for trouble, even if it does not hurt anyone it will probably cause him to hat platform because his gun probably won't function reliably.
I understand that guys build their own ARs all the time. just jumping on his bandwagnon and telling him which parts would be cool and you like them does not necessarily mean he should do it.
Just because a lot of the guys on this board the guys on this board have the expertise and know how to build their own guns does not mean that newbies should just grab some tools and go for it.
Al i am suggesting to the guy is to be safe and consider some of the things that can happen.
Anyone just telling him to go for it without some consideration for safety is being irresponsible.
Just becasue you know how to do it does not make it a good idea.
If being realistic and pointing out that building your first AR yourself and heading out the range to start blasting away is not necessarily a good idea the I am an ASS. and happy to be one.
kidicarus13
04-07-2014, 10:52
WTF guys, i know that we are into giving advice and helping others get into the sport of shooting and enjoying their rifles,
novice shooter, Ar owner, too many questions to be had for this guy to even attempt this, Looking at parts that are illegal to build with. Am i the only one here that wants to discourage him?
Just to clarify for others, i understand that legality depends on how the rest of the gun is built.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/06/foghorn/ask-foghorn-whats-difference-between-full-auto-semi-auto-only-ar-15-bolt-carrier/
Not a big deal. He'd have to go way out of his way to get a full auto sear and then there could be some problems.
rockhound
04-07-2014, 10:57
he also asked if the durability of the full auto would be better, this not in my opinion a consideration as either should out perform what most of us will ever do with our weapons.
the extra mass affects all kinds of things like cycling rates, buffer requirements etc. and does not mean it is a better piece or more durable, but will definitely change the gun and the parts needed to make it perform properly.
rockhound
04-07-2014, 11:01
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/06/foghorn/ask-foghorn-whats-difference-between-full-auto-semi-auto-only-ar-15-bolt-carrier/
Not a big deal. He'd have to go way out of his way to get a full auto sear and then there could be some problems.
yes as i said i understand that there are other parts involved.
first page says this guy should go to an armorer, i just said it more fordcefully so i am the ass. :)
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/06/foghorn/ask-foghorn-whats-difference-between-full-auto-semi-auto-only-ar-15-bolt-carrier/
Not a big deal. He'd have to go way out of his way to get a full auto sear and then there could be some problems.
And other select fire parts, and a third hole... It's amazing how some people (not you) get all twisted up over something they know nothing about. [panic]
I guess living in mom's basement, playing COD all day makes someone an AR expert. [fudd]
All my uppers have FA BCG. Some have been run on a registered NFA FA lower.
yes as i said i understand that there are other parts involved.
first page says this guy should go to an armorer, i just said it more fordcefully so i am the ass. :)
You posted nonfactual information and were called out on it and then tried to back-peddle instead of admitting you were wrong.
rockhound
04-07-2014, 11:29
Brutal:::: your criticism of my comment came nearly two hours after my post you are now calling a backpedal, you picked up on a post that had already been corrected and are dancing up and down about incomplete commentary that was already corrected before your comments came to light.
whatever,
If you want to give the OP some sound advice maybe we should be suggesting that he modify the AR that he claims to have. Instead of a complte from scratch build let him modify and make "his own rifle" from a working platform. something doesn't work he can always go backwards, new trigger group, new barrel, improved buffer, stock, handgaurd whatever. seems that hew oudl save money and time and still get some satisfaction from it.
Rockhound, I don't think I once ever said that I wasn't going to have any help with this build. The gunsmith at my local shop said he'd gladly help me put it together and show me how things are done. I've also had numerous members from this board offer me help with it as well, instead of being an arrogant dick about it because I don't know all there is to know about an AR.
You're right, I wasn't 100% sure what a BCG was when I first started getting the idea of the build, but it's all a learning process. I was simple asking what are the main differences between the two and which would be recommended. What parts am I wanting that are "illegal"?
You know what the best part about an online forum is? If you don't agree with what someone is doing or saying, you don't have to click on that thread and read about it.
I've admitted it on this thread before that I don't have experience with building an AR, but by no means does that make me a "newbie" with guns. Just because I haven't learned everything there is to know about them.
So, Rockhound, if you don't like what I'm doing don't bother posting in this thread and let the people on here that are actually helping me out with this build.
rockhound
04-07-2014, 12:58
never said i did not like what you wanted to do. your post count and the fact that you said you are still learning how to take your ar apart threw red flags, i read damn near everything you posted and it seems as though you are not clearly proficient in weapon or an AR
and you are correct, everyone has an opinion. the fact that i had a different one does not mean you have to listen to it. the fact that you are planning to use professional help did not come accross clearly to me at least at all.
I have a different opinion as to whether it was a smart thing to do based on the information given.
We all do have a differing opinion, you are free not to accept mine also, that is what makes the forum fun. Rather than getting in a huff or telling someone to get off the thread, another way to handle it would to say thanks for the concern for my safety, i will take the care to make sure my build is done safely.
My only concern was that we were not encouraging a true newbie to just jump in and in over their head and in some way get themselves hurt. [Beer]
This thread used to be so helpful for my own build.
Can't we all just get along?
I'm fine with everything right now. I just don't need someone coming in here saying it's a bad idea for a "newbie" to do an AR build.
I'm good to continue on with this thread like we had it going though haha
Delfuego
04-07-2014, 17:49
for what your are going to spend in tools parts and time, get yourself a factory built rifleGotta agree with this. If I had it to do over I would buy a complete factory rifle and lots of ammo. Then down the road get a nice optic.
Don't waste your money on $500 barrels and $300 BCG's. Buy one, shoot it, and if you like it you will build another or upgrade the one you got.
Gotta agree with this. If I had it to do over I would buy a complete factory rifle and lots of ammo. Then down the road get a nice optic.
Don't waste your money on $500 barrels and $300 BCG's. Buy one, shoot it, and if you like it you will build another or upgrade the one you got.
I already own an AR. I've got a lot of range time with it and that's why I'm wanting to build one. I want something better but I still want the one I've got to mess around with.
Guys, sometimes it's about the journey, more than the destination. No one learned anything by not actually doing it.
Guys, sometimes it's about the journey, more than the destination. No one learned anything by not actually doing it.
Thank you! Someone is finally seeing where I'm coming from haha I think it would be a fun experience and what better way to learn about an amazing platform.
I've been using this thread for studying up on my own build. Is see what Rockhound is saying, he just didn't initially deliver his message well and the thread kind of turned south from there. I don't think that asking what an acronym means, is the same as not knowing about the actual function of the part. Even so, the best way to learn is by building something that doesn't work, and getting it to work. So carry on and good luck with your journey. See you at the end.
I've been using this thread for studying up on my own build. Is see what Rockhound is saying, he just didn't initially deliver his message well and the thread kind of turned south from there. I don't think that asking what an acronym means, is the same as not knowing about the actual function of the part. Even so, the best way to learn is by building something that doesn't work, and getting it to work. So carry on and good luck with your journey. See you at the end.
Thank you Irving! I'm definetly looking forward to actually starting the build itself, just slowly piecing it all together is making me very anxious haha
Well Ladies and Gentlemen, I've finally completed my first AR-15 build successfully! I meant to put some pictures up when I first finished it but I was way to eager to get out to the range to test her out. Here are a few pictures I took though, Let me know what you all think! I also just want to say thank you as well to the members on here that were extremely helpful through this build with all of my questions, You all are awesome! haha
http://i1254.photobucket.com/albums/hh604/WhiteKnightProduction/My%20Guns/IMAG1045_1_zps45236723.jpg
http://i1254.photobucket.com/albums/hh604/WhiteKnightProduction/My%20Guns/IMAG1039_1_zps3d73598b.jpg
http://i1254.photobucket.com/albums/hh604/WhiteKnightProduction/My%20Guns/IMAG1053_1_zps46724645.jpg
That's a damn good looking rig GJ!
Thank you! I put a lot of time into deciding on parts for it. Definetly worth the wait, and every penny that went into it haha
Well done!
Sent from my subconscious mind.
Looks great! What's the final build list? Have you shot it yet??
Cofi, here is the build list of everything. I have got one range day in with it so far, it shoots like a dream! I couldn't be happier with how it turned out. I'm already looking into doing another build now haha you guys weren't kidding when you said you'll get hooked.
Build List:
Magpul STR Stock
Magpul angled foregrip Tan
Magpul grip
Magpul metal flip up sights
Rainier Nickel Boron BCG
Diamondhead VRS-T 15inch modular rail
.223 Wylde Chrome Lined Match Barrel
PWS FSC Compensator
Vltor Metal Upper
Seekins Precision Metal Lower
Eotech
Eotech G33 Magnifier
BCM low profile gas block
CMC Trigger
Gas tube
KNS roll pin
PWS EBT Buffer Tube
JP Enterprises Buffer Tube Assembly
Daniel Defense Lower Parts Kit
Crosstac One Point Sling
Noveske Body Pins
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