View Full Version : Another hypocritical Hick / DP thread
Great-Kazoo
12-23-2013, 09:00
http://www.denverpost.com/editorials/ci_24768732/keeping-perspective-school-violence
Hickenlooper recognizes that schools, by and large, are already comparatively safe places.
"If you look at the number of kids who die in accidental deaths in swimming pools, [it is] far more than die in shootings," Hickenlooper said. "But somehow the shootings are so visceral and affect us ... so deeply."
Hickenlooper is right. As NBC reported recently, "An average of 23 youths per year were the victims of homicides at elementary or secondary schools or on the way to a school event, over the years 1992 to 2011."
By contrast, nearly 140 children drowned in pools and spas in the summer of 2012, according to the Consumer Product Safety Commission.
"What I've been trying to tell people all weekend is that this [sort of shooting] happens once in a blue moon," Hickenlooper told CPR. That's not an argument for complacency, but it is a call for perspective and for calm.
Of course it is Governor. Until the legislature convenes in 14. Then i'm sure you'll be banging the bloomberg, VPC. IT'S TIME FOR COMMON SENSE GUN LAWS AGAIN.
Democrat / Liberal solutions to problems
Massive pile up from icy roads
BAN GUNS
Hurricane or tornado takes out entire towns
BAN GUNS
[fail]
TheBelly
12-23-2013, 09:29
Jim has spelling problems? Ban guns.
Great-Kazoo
12-23-2013, 09:36
Jim has spelling problems? Ban guns.
[LOL]took me a minute to figure that one. That's what happens when you post from a "tablet" [facepalm]
Bailey Guns
12-23-2013, 09:39
That's what happens when you post from a "tablet" [facepalm]
Like the one Moses used?
TheBelly
12-23-2013, 09:45
The more that Jack-in-pooper says/gets printed/utters, the more I want to give him a high five.......in the face.......with a steel chair.
Spineless, self serving, vile politicians fucking snakes in the grass. Ban hickenlooper!
And we come full circle. He made nice noises like that after Aurora then called for gun control after the election. fuck him.
Great-Kazoo
12-23-2013, 10:02
And we come full circle. He made nice noises like that after Aurora then called for gun control after the election. fuck him.
Sadly, 1/2 the state / country will agree with his next round of restrictions.
Great-Kazoo
12-23-2013, 10:03
Like the one Moses used?
hey, he got a good deal on them.
Sadly people keep buying into his drivel. I think mainly because they need to believe. I hate his face.
JMBD2112
12-23-2013, 10:33
Sadly, 1/2 the state / country will agree with his next round of restrictions.
You might be surprised Jim, read an article this weekend he was down in the polls
JMBD2112
12-23-2013, 10:38
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4479159
StagLefty
12-23-2013, 10:53
Like the one Moses used?
hey, he got a good deal on them.
Yeah but you have to stop using a chisel and hammer on a Kindle when texting. [ROFL3]
Great-Kazoo
12-23-2013, 11:10
Yeah but you have to stop using a chisel and hammer on a Kindle when texting. [ROFL3]
[facepalm] that explains the issues i'm having.
Great-Kazoo
12-23-2013, 11:13
You might be surprised Jim, read an article this weekend he was down in the polls
The media and it's well financed supporters will whitewash anything negative, the closer to 11/14 we get. What the DP did regarding the arapaho hs shooters "socialism" info, will happen with hick.
Let's just hope Hick doesn't get that D.C. position he's salivating over, and he's out of job come next November. I know I'm voting for Brophy.
KestrelBike
12-23-2013, 12:00
His fear smells sour.
The media and it's well financed supporters will whitewash anything negative, the closer to 11/14 we get. What the DP did regarding the arapaho hs shooters "socialism" info, will happen with hick.
I'm thinking that the closer we get to those elections, the closer the gun control-supporting liberals will fire up the BS machine and try to appear to be backing off on any type of aggressive gun control measure just to get votes from the people who either don't have anything invested in firearms or are just otherwise poorly informed. The recalls here in CO, and even the Hudak resignation, did send a big message not just in this state but I believe in the whole country. I'd also argue that this whole Duck Dynasty debacle, whether real or manufactured by crafty network execs, is a good thing as it's helping to rouse up the silent majority who have had enough of these politicians pushing their liberal agendas on everyone.
theGinsue
12-23-2013, 12:46
Let's just hope Hick doesn't get that D.C. position he's salivating over, and he's out of job come next November. I know I'm voting for Brophy.
Senator Brophy is also a member of this site.
Hick can suck it. He should be in prison.
Senator Brophy is also a member of this site.
Really? Mr. Brophy, if you're reading this- GOOD LUCK, you have a lot of support!
Hick can suck it. He should be in prison.
Indeed! Maybe he can share a cell with Dunlap?
The douchenozzle has gills and is sucking air.
centrarchidae
12-23-2013, 14:17
hey, he got a good deal on them.
It wasn't that good a deal. Moses got his supplier down to ten, but adultery was still in.
BPTactical
12-23-2013, 14:34
Actually Hick undermined the gun grabbers entire argument.
Guns are not the problem.
Lack of laws are not the problem.
The Washington Navy Yard and Arapahoe HS proved this.
Actually Hick undermined the gun grabbers entire argument.
Guns are not the problem.
Lack of laws are not the problem.
The Washington Navy Yard and Arapahoe HS proved this.
So did Newtown and every other criminal action with a firearm.
It's a criminal/mental health issue, not a gun or gun control law issue.
This includes having a lack of enforcement for existing law. The federal prosecution rate on falsifying a 4473 is incredibly low.
Much like big pharma and the War on Drugs, there's no money in a cure. If they could magically stop all gun crimes with a wave of a magic wand, the gun grabbers wouldn't do it, because there's big money in the fight, but none in the actual resolution. "They" don't want to actually address the problem, because it it goes away, so does their power and influence. Gun/drug/sin control is not about stopping crimes, it's about building power.
This includes having a lack of enforcement for existing law. The federal prosecution rate on falsifying a 4473 is incredibly low.
I haven't really looked into this, but I have yet to actually hear of any prosecution for falsifying a 4473... It seems every legitimate denial on a CBI check for a firearms purchase pretty much goes without any arrest.
I haven't really looked into this, but I have yet to actually hear of any prosecution for falsifying a 4473... It seems every legitimate denial on a CBI check for a firearms purchase pretty much goes without any arrest.
Because you'd have to be a moron to attempt to buy a gun again knowing you'll be denied. I'd guess a large # of the denials are of the sort "What do you mean that plea made me prohibited?" Those are not the sort of hardened criminals enforcement would be worth the time on.
The only violations on the 4473 I see enforced (rarely) are the straw purchase "Are you the true buyer" part.
As for Hick, he's a politician lying his ass off to get re-elected. He already proved he cannot be trusted on guns so why should he be trusted on anything.
I haven't really looked into this, but I have yet to actually hear of any prosecution for falsifying a 4473... It seems every legitimate denial on a CBI check for a firearms purchase pretty much goes without any arrest.
Oneguy67 has explained this in the past: The US district attorneys choose not to prosecute, and the State attorneys claim it's not their jurisdiction. This issue gets passed around more than a drunk freshman coed at a frat party...
Great-Kazoo
12-23-2013, 16:38
Oneguy67 has explained this in the past: The US district attorneys choose not to prosecute, and the State attorneys claim it's not their jurisdiction. This issue gets passed around more than a drunk freshman coed at a frat party...
Sorority sister, they're easier to influence, with less alcohol. The freshmen, well caveat emptor.
DireWolf
12-23-2013, 16:44
This may not be the best place to toss this out (likely worthy of it's own thread), but this is something I've been thinking about as a way to short-circuit a lot of shit (this thread brought it back to the front-of-mind), and while not ideal for a number of obvious reasons, definitely would seem to be better than nothing and might level the playing field a bit....What if....
Considering the non-stop grabbing efforts, as well as both the "lack of agency/LE restrictions" and the MIL->LE gifting programs that I keep reading about, what if a group of sheriff's dept.'s started up something similar to what you have in AZ with the volunteer deputy program, but with a twist. Anyone who lives in-county and can pass the appropriate background/screening can become an official volunteer deputy and can be "issued" latest/greatest equipment....This could also be used to put a positive spin on the "gifting" program, since equip could effectively be "re-gifted" (issued) to volunteer deputies.......
This would also really help out budget-constrained county depts., and would go light-years toward preventing various forms of abuse-of-power.....
Just a thought......
Great-Kazoo
12-23-2013, 16:57
This may not be the best place to toss this out (likely worthy of it's own thread), but this is something I've been thinking about as a way to short-circuit a lot of shit (this thread brought it back to the front-of-mind), and while not ideal for a number of obvious reasons, definitely would seem to be better than nothing and might level the playing field a bit....What if....
Considering the non-stop grabbing efforts, as well as both the "lack of agency/LE restrictions" and the MIL->LE gifting programs that I keep reading about, what if a group of sheriff's dept.'s started up something similar to what you have in AZ with the volunteer deputy program, but with a twist. Anyone who lives in-county and can pass the appropriate background/screening can become an official volunteer deputy and can be "issued" latest/greatest equipment with "level-the-playing-field" capabilities....This could also be used to put a positive spin on the "gifting" program, since equip could effectively be "re-gifted" (issued) to volunteer deputies.......
This would also really help out budget-constrained county depts., and would go light-years toward preventing various forms of abuse-of-power.....
Just a thought......
If you become a "volunteer" deputy. you have to stand out there directing traffic at any event. If i was one of them and they allowed what you suggested (not a bad idea) without giving those already in service the same deal. All hell would break lose.
I had asked my local LE about becoming deputized in an emergency. He informed me we are deputy's, if called up.
Then again I / WE are the Militia.
DireWolf
12-23-2013, 17:13
If you become a "volunteer" deputy. you have to stand out there directing traffic at any event. If i was one of them and they allowed what you suggested (not a bad idea) without giving those already in service the same deal. All hell would break lose.
I had asked my local LE about becoming deputized in an emergency. He informed me we are deputy's, if called up.
Then again I / WE are the Militia.
As long as the program was open to the volunteer deputies, I se no reason whatsoever for it not to be made available to those currently serving. Allocations are a logistics issue and easily solvable.
As for standing traffic duty, I think that a quota for spending a few hours every month would go a long way to justify the program, provide better coverage, and I for one would have no problem directing traffic outside an event or standing outside of a school for a few hours a month (traffic outside my kid's school is really bad) if that's what it took. I would imagine that county-wide, if you had even decent participation, that's one hell of a vetted volunteer workforce which I would think by it's very nature is less prone to (individual) abuse.....
Great-Kazoo
12-23-2013, 18:11
As long as the program was open to the volunteer deputies, I se no reason whatsoever for it not to be made available to those currently serving. Allocations are a logistics issue and easily solvable.
As for standing traffic duty, I think that a quota for spending a few hours every month would go a long way to justify the program, provide better coverage, and I for one would have no problem directing traffic outside an event or standing outside of a school for a few hours a month (traffic outside my kid's school is really bad) if that's what it took. I would imagine that county-wide, if you had even decent participation, that's one hell of a vetted volunteer workforce which I would think by it's very nature is less prone to (individual) abuse.....
Once you deny the disabled (such as myself) it has the potential to be discriminatory. No matter how much we would like to volunteer, we are unable to. The whole Militia part of the 2nd is good enough for me.
The more that Jack-in-pooper says/gets printed/utters, the more I want to give him a high five.......in the face.......with a steel chair.
By the hulk.
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