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JM Ver. 2.0
12-23-2013, 16:25
The first three went great. I'm disappointed in the other two.
I donno why but this is bothering me a bunch.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/24/u2esu2u5.jpg
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<MADDOG>
12-23-2013, 16:29
It doesn't suck?
Sorry JM, what are you looking for out of "blaster" ammo?
trlcavscout
12-23-2013, 16:30
What brand of rifle?
Great-Kazoo
12-23-2013, 16:33
What brand of rifle?
One that sucks ?
One that sucks ?
A Lewinsky BJ-308?
Great-Kazoo
12-23-2013, 16:39
A Lewinsky BJ-308?
Blue cammo, with both front and rear support
JM Ver. 2.0
12-23-2013, 16:42
What brand of rifle?
Remington 700
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It'd bother me, too. What ammo? What barrel profile?
sellersm
12-23-2013, 16:46
Well, when I saw the "blaster" ammo... I'd not get overly concerned. Probably the 1st three shots were the fluke! [Coffee]
trlcavscout
12-23-2013, 16:46
Haha this is going down hill quick, like Monica!
Never tried their ammo, is it decent?
Colorado_Outback
12-23-2013, 16:52
If you didn't jerk it so much you wouldn't have that problem..
But seriously though..
Cold barrel? Do you have a couple other groups to compare it to?
JM Ver. 2.0
12-23-2013, 16:56
It was cold barrel. Had to leave and only had time to do those 5.
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Great-Kazoo
12-23-2013, 17:04
It was cold barrel. Had to leave and only had time to do those 5.
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Outside of not being a consistently decent shot. Those fliers happen to me, after a few nice groups. I believe excitement and relaxing , behind the trigger, can account for some of it.
StagLefty
12-23-2013, 17:18
Well, when I saw the "blaster" ammo... I'd not get overly concerned. Probably the 1st three shots were the fluke! [Coffee]
[ROFL2]
BuffCyclist
12-23-2013, 17:25
Something tells me this thread isn't giving JM the empathy he was desiring.
It's Blaster ammo. Did you measure the OAL of the bullets before shooting? Perhaps #4 was shorter or longer. Perhaps it didn't have the fill. Perhaps you just bought cheap blaster ammo and were expecting superior results from it.
A little story: When I was 21, I bought a Llama .22 that looks just like a miniature 1911(still have it, makes an ok doorstop), and took it to the range. The first round down the barrel cut the X out of the bullseye target I had sent about 15 yards down range. That was the only time to date that particular pistol has EVER put a round in the location I intended. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
islandermyk
12-23-2013, 18:19
Parallax... always something I've been spanked about here... and I'm sharing some of that love wit yah [Coffee]
I bet getting 3 together you got excited and your position (Eye, cheek, anything with you behind the boom stick) changed causing your eye on the reticle to change.
JM Ver. 2.0
12-23-2013, 19:38
Something tells me this thread isn't giving JM the empathy he was desiring.
I actually expected far worse than what's been said.
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BuffCyclist
12-23-2013, 19:45
I actually expected far worse than what's been said.
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Oh, well now that you told us that...
Let the games begin!
blacklabel
12-23-2013, 19:51
JM forgot to add that he shot this with his eyes closed. I have to say it's pretty damn impressive.
BuffCyclist
12-23-2013, 19:55
Isn't the normal practice when posting pictures of targets online to double the distance? So this grouping was really shot at 50yds? [LOL]
No, really. What barrel profile? Is it pencil thin or a truck axle, or what?
Actually, islandermyke is likely on the correct course. I'd guess parallax, too.
Pretty good 600 yard target if you ask me.
You probably flinched on the last two. Being a girly kind of man and all... [Coffee]
Two words: Blaster. Ammo.
Take what you will from the rest. You didn't load the rounds, so you don't know. Five data points do not make for an accurate study...ask BC.
BuffCyclist
12-23-2013, 21:29
Two words: Blaster. Ammo.
Take what you will from the rest. You didn't load the rounds, so you don't know. Five data points do not make for an accurate study...ask BC.
Psh, they don't? Hmm, might need to go back and look at some studies... [Tooth]
jerrymrc
12-23-2013, 21:40
Y'all need to take bob out of this. Blaster had nothing to do with it. Better to say nothing at all my mother told me. Have to be the nice mod and all. Ask Paul what he thinks. [Bang]
hghclsswhitetrsh
12-23-2013, 21:41
This was with open sights right?
BPTactical
12-23-2013, 22:09
This was with open sights right?
What sights??
Great-Kazoo
12-23-2013, 23:19
What sights??
HIND Sight
Zombie Steve
12-24-2013, 00:36
How fast did you shoot these? Couldn't the vertical stringing be from a barrel getting hot?
Reliable scope and even 700 factory heavy barrel should not do that.
Even people with good long range experience can be disturbed by phone calls, friend talking to you about hot chick at the range, etc.
Besides potential human error. Here are variables:
1. Severe cross wind over 20mph during your 4th 5th shot.
Colorado Osprey
12-24-2013, 07:08
How fast did you shoot these? Couldn't the vertical stringing be from a barrel getting hot?
That would be my bet if you think parallax wasn't the issue. I've never had that much movement at 100 yards due to parallax except with really cheap BSA scope.
If the scope has adjustable parallax, the error could easily be 6" or more.
There are a whole bunch of thing's that could cause it and there is not enough info given to make an educated response .
The 2 most likely things are shooter error and shity ammo , take your pick ,both are equally plausible with the info provided .
Everything else is just guess work .
This was with open sights right?
What sights??
HIND Sight
I saw him fire this group. He was actually shooting from the hip. Really pretty impressive. [Coffee]
hghclsswhitetrsh
12-24-2013, 09:22
I saw him fire this group. He was actually shooting from the hip. Really pretty impressive. [Coffee]
Out of the bed of a truck right? While moving and shit.
Out of the bed of a truck right? While moving and shit.
Yep. And it was windy and snowing. Some real John Wayne type shooting for sure.
Out of the bed of a truck right? While moving and shit.
Honest to god, I've seen him do that.
140yds on a prairie dog off the top of the cab of my F150 with the AR
That being said, it's better to be lucky than good.
hghclsswhitetrsh
12-24-2013, 09:35
On a serious note this is a 5 shot group of hand loaded 308's from a bone stock rem 700. I am by no means a good shooter. Technically speaking I'm not worthy to hold the umbrella over hoser, islandermyk, or Tim K's head on a sunny day at the range.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/24/nu9yqy9u.jpg
Since we seem to be comparing sizes, here is a group from my old Savage in .223. It would usually shoot about 1/2 MOA just about any time and if I did my part well it would usually do better.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m98/rjs1970/CCI2.jpg
hghclsswhitetrsh
12-24-2013, 10:18
Um I can only judge group size vs a beer top. Sorry. Your point is irrelevant.
Um I can only judge group size vs a beer top. Sorry. Your point is irrelevant.
I only drink canned beer while I'm shooting. Would a pull tab work?
[Coffee]
(Just kidding folks. Alcohol and firearms don't mix. Everyone knows that.)
He didn't shoot them, he tossed them like darts from 100 yards. [Coffee]
Vertical movement could be a hot barrel or breathing problems. Some hot chick pass by after the 3rd shot and get you breathing heavy?
BuffCyclist
12-24-2013, 16:49
Did anyone give JM what he wanted?
JM, it doesn't suck. Happy? [Poke]
67rschev
12-24-2013, 17:33
I would say it doesn't suck . Pretty good really if you think of it ..... Probably lucky to have 3 touching for 12 buck a box , factory seconds , re manufactured ammunition . Now if it was from your handloads , try again and do a OCW test . Better yet , try some FGGM and report back . Crappy fodder = Crappy groups , garbage in garbage out.
SideShow Bob
12-24-2013, 20:28
Since we seem to be comparing sizes, here is a group from my old Savage in .223. It would usually shoot about 1/2 MOA just about any time and if I did my part well it would usually do better.
Well, if it is about size, I Win !
It would take two hands to bridge the last 50 yard, 20 round group I shot !
as the commercial says, "It takes two hands to handle a Whopper"................
BlasterBob
12-26-2013, 10:12
Y'all need to take bob out of this. Blaster had nothing to do with it. Better to say nothing at all my mother told me. Have to be the nice mod and all. Ask Paul what he thinks. [Bang]
Well thanks a lot Jerry. If someone told you that BlasterBob stinks, you'd probably say, "Like shit he does". [ROFL2]
JM Ver. 2.0
12-26-2013, 10:21
Honest to god, I've seen him do that.
140yds on a prairie dog off the top of the cab of my F150 with the AR
That being said, it's better to be lucky than good.
I'm glad you brought that up.
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