View Full Version : Top 10 Handguns in the US
buckshotbarlow
01-01-2014, 09:09
Typical bs from the WT...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/multimedia/collection/top-10-handguns/?page=1
High point made the list...along with keltec...i guess i know what i need to buy this year!
Top 10 "makes" is more like it. Kind of interesting read though. Surprised G is only 10.
Great-Kazoo
01-01-2014, 09:37
Top 10 "makes" is more like it. Kind of interesting read though. Surprised G is only 10.
The wildly popular make just cracked the top 10 in U.S. production at it's Georgia facility.
Now lets see the numbers of hand guns sold.
buckshotbarlow
01-01-2014, 09:40
I think it's obvious that these guys didn't do their research, and with it the rag being out of DC, I know a lot of first hand knowledge does not exist. I doubt that the model listed from keltech and the good ol Highpoint make it to the 3gun and other action shooting events.
buckshotbarlow
01-01-2014, 09:41
After looking at the list more, notice how only movies are portrayed...sigh reporting from hollywood movies
osok-308
01-01-2014, 10:04
Any top ten list including a hi point is not a good list.
crashdown
01-01-2014, 10:09
It's guns MADE in the U.S.A.
Im thinking a correct title or people reading the article would clear up the confusion.
BPTactical
01-01-2014, 10:22
Incoming political/activist group pressure on US handgun manufacturers in
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osok-308
01-01-2014, 10:24
It's guns MADE in the U.S.A.
Im thinking a correct title or people reading the article would clear up the confusion.
there are still handguns made in the usa that are better than a hi point!
The article isn't referring to the popularity or the reliability of the firearms, just the numbers produced here in the U.S. It's a pretty stupid and useless article.
I think it's obvious that these guys didn't do their research, and with it the rag being out of DC, I know a lot of first hand knowledge does not exist. I doubt that the model listed from keltech and the good ol Highpoint make it to the 3gun and other action shooting events.
The article wasn't about the top 10 competition handguns. It was the top 10 handguns sold.
After looking at the list more, notice how only movies are portrayed...sigh reporting from hollywood movies
And they're just referencing movies to help the kind of idiots who read their rag grasp what they are talking about.
SSChameleon
01-01-2014, 10:43
Not to hijack the thread, but the images taken from movies illustrates our 'gun violence' culture is more a product of Hollywood than a product of gun manufactures.
The article isn't referring to the popularity or the reliability of the firearms, just the numbers produced here in the U.S. It's a pretty stupid and useless article.
^^^From the article...
The most prolific makes of handguns manufactured in the U.S., based on production statistics provided to ATF.
RCCrawler
01-01-2014, 11:30
Speaking of High Points I was walking around cabelas the other day and overheard the gun salesman telling a customer what a great gun high point were and that they deserved much more credit.
ZERO THEORY
01-01-2014, 11:32
Incoming political/activist group pressure on US handgun manufacturers in
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"...over half of which were 9mm."
I'm just waiting for the next libtard to tell us about how 9mm is the round of choice for baby-killing, right wing, mass-shooting, political extremists.
Any top ten list including a hi point is not a good list.
Where else can you get a $200 45? Plus you can use it for a sledge if need be.
Good god, lol........
http://www.hipointfirearmsforums.com/forum/
15198 members.
Aloha_Shooter
01-01-2014, 14:57
<sigh> The reading comprehension in this thread is about on par with the average PuffingtonHost reader. The article is talking about the top guns produced in America. Period, end of story, yet someone disbelieves the story because of the number disparity between Rugers and Glocks and another person disbelieves it because of his experience in 3-gun competition. Guess what, 3-gun competers are a fractional minority of all gun owners ... REAL fractional.
There are a LOT of people who buy Jennings and Hi-Points because they want a cheap handgun (and that's exactly what they get). You can laugh at them all you want but the manufacturers are reporting their production statistics to the ATF and I doubt too many of them want to produce 100,000 more guns than they can sell every year.
FWIW, while I hate the fact the Washington Times is owned by the Moonies, the fact of the matter is that they have fewer factual errors than the Washington Post or New York Times (they also have a much thinner paper so less chance to get things wrong but the point holds). I also hate their proclivity for publishing classified info but they view it as blowing the whistle on stuff that shouldn't be classified like Tyson's sweetheart deal when Clinton's trade negotiator was in talks with a then-underdog Russia. IMO, it's a better paper than either of those "giants of journalism" despite its ownership; it has its biases but is more objective than either of those two no matter what Ridge has to say about "rags".
ZERO THEORY
01-01-2014, 15:15
Any top ten list including a hi point is not a good list.
there are still handguns made in the usa that are better than a hi point!
Good god, lol........
http://www.hipointfirearmsforums.com/forum/
15198 members.
I'll certainly never buy one, but if we're being honest, I've yet to see any widespread reports of Hi Point failures. That could very well be because I'm not spending my time researching their bricks, or the people that buy them don't actually shoot often enough to have a good control group. Either way, they sell relatively well and seemingly work well enough.
They're hideous, but if it means that more people will actually put down money for firearms, then it means more potential people that will stand up for my interests. So carry on, all you budget operators!
EDIT:
I'll eat my crow now before you guys post links. Actually looked into Hi Point failures and I stand corrected in a major way. With that, I still maintain my second supposition. I'll trust my life with my Glock, though.
Not to hijack the thread, but the images taken from movies illustrates our 'gun violence' culture is more a product of Hollywood than a product of gun manufactures.
I was thinking this too. But it's also a subtle way to show good people doing heroic things with those guns.
For the record, I've been in the poor house. I saved my money. I didn't buy hipoint. I'm not casting judgement, but my money is better spent elsewhere. MMV
wctriumph
01-01-2014, 15:39
I had a Hi-Point once, a 9mm compact, came with the box and everything. I paid $50 and a brick of .22LR for it. I took it shooting twice and fired a box of 115 FMJ through it. At eight feet with a two handed hold it would not shoot to point of aim. With a rest it grouped about 6 inches around point of aim. But, I could always put shots into center mass and it did not malfunction in any way shape or form through out the 50 rounds fired. In the end I sold it for $100 and 100 rounds of .45ACP. I probably won't get another unless it is given to me.
Circuits
01-01-2014, 15:43
It also only includes US-manufactured numbers for some handguns (Glock), while (presumably) basing other placements on total production numbers of some foreign guns, regardless of how many were made in the US vs imported.
Not surprised Ruger is #1 with all those Mk3 and 22/45 guns out there. Vast majority of the Sig, S&W and Taurus numbers are probably also 22s.
theGinsue
01-01-2014, 15:53
After looking at the list more, notice how only movies are portrayed...sigh reporting from hollywood movies
And they're just referencing movies to help the kind of idiots who read their rag grasp what they are talking about.
I was thinking this too. But it's also a subtle way to show good people doing heroic things with those guns.
Let's agree to disagree on this.
Not to hijack the thread, but the images taken from movies illustrates our 'gun violence' culture is more a product of Hollywood than a product of gun manufactures.
I believe this was the subtle underlying point of the article. I believe that the WP used the movie tie-ins to show that the use of forearms in movies is what's driving the sales/ownership of firearms. Sort of like saying "Every gun owner just wants to go around shooting things up and killing people because Hollywood has made it look cool". I think this is just another anti-gun agenda piece.
Incoming political/activist group pressure on US handgun manufacturers in
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And this would be the desired effect of the article.
Good god, lol........
http://www.hipointfirearmsforums.com/forum/
15198 members.
I'm one of them, but haven't posted in a few years.
My first two guns:
http://i.imgur.com/fbZrZcph.jpg
akumadiavolo
01-01-2014, 16:23
It also only includes US-manufactured numbers for some handguns (Glock), while (presumably) basing other placements on total production numbers of some foreign guns, regardless of how many were made in the US vs imported.
Why would you think that? It clearly states the numbers come from the ATF statistics of US produced weapons. I don't think a single foreign made gun is included here.
buckshotbarlow
01-01-2014, 16:51
the only reason why i posted this was that almost all the pics where of hollywood movies using the pistols in some fashion...A couple of you hit it on the head. Since all of us 2nd amendment supporters are to be members of the tea party which equates to terrorists....figure out the rest of it. To be honest, i'm surprised i didn't see a bunch of draco's and a couple ar15's in there to complement some of their agenda...
I'd like to see actual sales numbers from manufacturers. I've personally never seen anyone at any range with a Hi Point.
Good god, lol........
http://www.hipointfirearmsforums.com/forum/
15198 members.
Just spent an hour on there laughing and laughing
There was a High Point at one of the first IDPA matches I ever attended.
There was a High Point at one of the first IDPA matches I ever attended.
How'd he finish?
It was a she. I remember that she couldn't hit anything with it. They were an odd couple all around.
Bailey Guns
01-01-2014, 21:38
<sigh> The reading comprehension in this thread is about on par with the average PuffingtonHost reader. The article is talking about the top guns produced in America. Period, end of story, yet someone disbelieves the story because of the number disparity between Rugers and Glocks and another person disbelieves it because of his experience in 3-gun competition. Guess what, 3-gun competers are a fractional minority of all gun owners ... REAL fractional.
There are a LOT of people who buy Jennings and Hi-Points because they want a cheap handgun (and that's exactly what they get). You can laugh at them all you want but the manufacturers are reporting their production statistics to the ATF and I doubt too many of them want to produce 100,000 more guns than they can sell every year.
FWIW, while I hate the fact the Washington Times is owned by the Moonies, the fact of the matter is that they have fewer factual errors than the Washington Post or New York Times (they also have a much thinner paper so less chance to get things wrong but the point holds). I also hate their proclivity for publishing classified info but they view it as blowing the whistle on stuff that shouldn't be classified like Tyson's sweetheart deal when Clinton's trade negotiator was in talks with a then-underdog Russia. IMO, it's a better paper than either of those "giants of journalism" despite its ownership; it has its biases but is more objective than either of those two no matter what Ridge has to say about "rags".
Agreed.
Not everyone has a lot of money to spend on guns for a variety of reasons. There's a valid reason for companies to produce low-priced guns. Just because a person doesn't have a Kimber budget doesn't mean they shouldn't have a means to at least give them a reasonable chance of defending themselves and their families.
Seems to me the execs at Hi-Point understand their market a lot better than most of you guys.
DSB OUTDOORS
01-01-2014, 21:43
Hell, I have a Hi-Point 45 ACP that shoots better than any Kimber, Springfield, and S&W that I own!! [Beer]
KestrelBike
01-01-2014, 22:40
Hell, I have a Hi-Point 45 ACP that shoots better than any Kimber, Springfield, and S&W that I own!! [Beer]
My $450 RIA 1911 has had probably 3 hangups in 10 IDPA/3Gun matches, 1 of which was a complete disagreement with chip mccormick 10rd mags (angle just low-rides the round) and the other 2 hangups were typical flukes solved with a quick racking of the slide.
Meanwhile: I watch WilsonC's, Kimber's, Colts, etc all add time to my competitors' scores like clockwork.
Great-Kazoo
01-01-2014, 22:42
Anyone mention. That number is US guns produced, yet?
Anyone mention. That number is US guns produced, yet?
No - glad you brought it up.
Anyone mention. That number is US guns produced, yet?
I'd like to see the numbers for 2013.
Great-Kazoo
01-01-2014, 23:01
No - glad you brought it up.
No problem, i'm gonna start a follow up in the PWT [LOL]
Speaking of High Points I was walking around cabelas the other day and overheard the gun salesman telling a customer what a great gun high point were and that they deserved much more credit. They are a bit under-rated, sorta. I've never owned one, and have no need to own one. But if I only had 200 bucks and had to go through an FFL any way, I'd buy one.
Circuits
01-02-2014, 10:26
Hi Point is ugly and heavy and your friends will laugh at you - but they do work. Because they're so heavy and pure blowback, they have problems cycling weaker loadings, at least in 9mm, and if you limp wrist them, they'll jam every time.
BPTactical
01-02-2014, 11:09
There is a reason HiPoints are so heavy.
That way they sink in the mud after the drive by.
The shop I used to work at carried the 9 and the 45.
The only time they sold was at the Aurora gunshow.
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