I know it's not PC, but I'll say it: this really annoys me

[ZERO THEORY]

http://i.imgur.com/C02RQ15.jpg


If I moved to Guadalajara, I know I wouldn't get a poster in English made especially for me.

[rbeau30]

4 US Code Title 4 (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4) Chapter 1 (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/chapter-1) § 3

"Any person who, within the District of Columbia, in any manner, for exhibition or display, shall place or cause to be placed any word, figure, mark, picture, design, drawing, or any advertisement of any nature upon any flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States of America; or shall expose or cause to be exposed to public view any such flag, standard, colors, or ensign upon which shall have been printed, painted, or otherwise placed, or to which shall be attached, appended, affixed, or annexed any word, figure, mark, picture, design, or drawing, or any advertisement of any nature; or who, within the District of Columbia, shall manufacture, sell, expose for sale, or to public view, or give away or have in possession for sale, or to be given away or for use for any purpose, any article or substance being an article of merchandise, or a receptacle for merchandise or article or thing for carrying or transporting merchandise, upon which shall have been printed, painted, attached, or otherwise placed a representation of any such flag, standard, colors, or ensign, to advertise, call attention to, decorate, mark, or distinguish the article or substance on which so placed shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be punished by a fine not exceeding $100 or by imprisonment for not more than thirty days, or both, in the discretion of the court."

[Zundfolge]

If I moved to Guadalajara, I know I wouldn't get a poster in English made especially for me.

That ain't the half of it either. http://factreal.wordpress.com/2010/05/08/mexico-vs-united-states-mexican-immigration-laws-are-tougher/

[HoneyBadger]

I associate "the right to work" with "the right to have a job". Not the same thing, but it makes me go apeshit when people think they have the "right" to something such as $15/hr for working the counter at McD's, or the "right" to a cell phone, and high speed internet. [Rant1]

[mountainjenny]

I got most of my Obamacare correspondence in English and Spanish. I would open the mail box and there would be two of everything, even though they asked repeatedly if I would prefer correspondence in English of Spanish.

[hatidua]

If I moved to Guadalajara, I know I wouldn't get a poster in English made especially for me.

I don't have an issue with the bilingual aspect of the poster, but the "based on citizenship" is a hard pill to swallow.

[OtterbatHellcat]

It pisses me off to no end, with the spanish option on phone calls, and on guberment documents, and etc, etc.

All that shit costs a lot of money, and we're paying for it. I can't express *fuck you* large enough.

.........end mini rant.

[Ridge]

I associate "the right to work" with "the right to have a job". Not the same thing, but it makes me go apeshit when people think they have the "right" to something such as $15/hr for working the counter at McD's, or the "right" to a cell phone, and high speed internet. [Rant1]

Well right to work is a misnomer anyway, since in right to work states, your employer can fire you for any reason or no reason.

[merl]

Well right to work is a misnomer anyway, since in right to work states, your employer can fire you for any reason or no reason.

The business no longer needs your services is not a valid reason to terminate employment?
Hre's a question for ya, if you lived in MX would you get a big old American flag decal for your back window? :)

[Ridge]

The business no longer needs your services is not a valid reason to terminate employment?
Hre's a question for ya, if you lived in MX would you get a big old American flag decal for your back window? :)

Hell yeah I would. And I'd roll down the street blasting Bruno Mars, too.

[ZERO THEORY]

Hell yeah I would. And I'd roll down the street blasting Metallica, too.

Fixed that for you.

[Ridge]

Hell yeah I would. And I'd roll down the street blasting AC/DC, too.

We'll compromise.

[RMAC757]

Hell yeah I would. And I'd roll down the street blasting Metallica, too.
Fixed that for you.

Cause who doesn't like Metallica [rockon]

[Bailey Guns]

And I'd roll down the street blasting the AC, too.

Better compromise.

[Great-Kazoo]

Cause who doesn't like Metallica [rockon]

[pick-me] Lars is a pretentious dick. Their music while ok is not one i would go out and spend money on.

[osok-308]

I associate "the right to work" with "the right to have a job". Not the same thing, but it makes me go apeshit when people think they have the "right" to something such as $15/hr for working the counter at McD's, or the "right" to a cell phone, and high speed internet. [Rant1]

I saw a meme the other day that shows the average hourly wage of police, firefighters, and emts. All of them were $16-$18. Then it shows a guy flipping burgers.. "$15/hr totally fair"

[Great-Kazoo]

I don't have an issue with the bilingual aspect of the poster, but the "based on citizenship" is a hard pill to swallow.


It pisses me off to no end, with the spanish option on phone calls, and on guberment documents, and etc, etc.

All that shit costs a lot of money, and we're paying for it. I can't express *fuck you* large enough.

.........end mini rant.


The business no longer needs your services is not a valid reason to terminate employment? YES IT IS. been that way for decades.
Hre's a question for ya, if you lived in MX would you get a big old American flag decal for your back window? :)


While i agree with the whole Para Espanol, Numero Dos' I see something in "latinos" for lack of a better word i didn't see after 9/11 from us locals, for the most part.

EVERY mexican vehicle that had a decal with the mexican flag, had at least 1 if not 2 American flags flying on their car. The biggest saturation of American flags, flying off houses, flag poles etc, were in mexican neighborhoods.

[ZERO THEORY]

[pick-me] Lars is a pretentious dick. Their music while ok is not one i would go out and spend money on.

Lars may be a douche, but saying that Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets are just OK is downright blasphemy.

[JoeT]

my wife leave in the morning for work. She's in LA and San Diego on Monday afternoon &Tuesday. On Wednesday, Thursday and Friday working in their Mexican plants (Tijuana and Juarez). She and her boss communicated about 30 times over the last 2 days coordinating their security for the Mexico portion of their trip.

So we put up signs I(in multi-languages) here in the states making sure poeple know they can't be discriminated against for a job bases on citizenship but in their country you pay an armed security force to insure you're not kidnapped at your job because you're American. sounds about the same

[spqrzilla]

Well right to work is a misnomer anyway, since in right to work states, your employer can fire you for any reason or no reason.

That's actually mixing up two different legal concepts. "Right to work" means that state law prohibits closed union shops. Its a separate issue from whether or not termination requires good cause.

[68Charger]

Hell yeah I would. And I'd roll down the street blasting Bruno Mars, too.


https://www.ar-15.co/images/tf_ideal/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Ridge https://www.ar-15.co/images/tf_ideal/buttons/viewpost-right.png (https://www.ar-15.co/showthread.php?p=1474949#post1474949)
Hell yeah I would. And I'd roll down the street blasting Metallica, too.

Fixed that for you.



https://www.ar-15.co/images/tf_ideal/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Ridge https://www.ar-15.co/images/tf_ideal/buttons/viewpost-right.png (https://www.ar-15.co/showthread.php?p=1474949#post1474949)

Hell yeah I would. And I'd roll down the street blasting AC/DC, too.

We'll compromise.

I'm just trying to figure out in what f'ing universe is AC/DC a compromise between Bruno Mars & Metallica?

Maybe Halestorm or In this Moment... [ROFL1]

[Aloha_Shooter]

Well right to work is a misnomer anyway, since in right to work states, your employer can fire you for any reason or no reason.

At least the employer should have a say on hiring and firing as opposed to being forced to join a union and pay extortion undeserved dues in order to get or keep your job.

[Great-Kazoo]

Lars may be a douche, but saying that Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets are just OK is downright blasphemy.

Blasphemy ? call it what you want, musically they have some talent. Just not on my list of MUST HAVE'S in my collection.

[bogie]

While i agree with the whole Para Espanol, Numero Dos' I see something in "latinos" for lack of a better word i didn't see after 9/11 from us locals, for the most part.

EVERY mexican vehicle that had a decal with the mexican flag, had at least 1 if not 2 American flags flying on their car. The biggest saturation of American flags, flying off houses, flag poles etc, were in mexican neighborhoods.

That comes from the soccer culture, nothing more.

[Guylee]

You guys are all looking at this the wrong way. It's an excellent opportunity to brush up on your spanish for when it becomes the national language!

[rockhound]

I don't have an issue with the bilingual aspect of the poster, but the "based on citizenship" is a hard pill to swallow.

That is because it is not true.

[BPTactical]

Why do I have to press 1 for English?

[Aloha_Shooter]

That comes from the soccer culture, nothing more.

You know, you guys have got to stop providing fodder for liberal stereotypes. Legal immigrants and Mexican-Americans (not necessarily the same thing as some of these Mexican-Americans can trace their heritage on North American soil back to the 17th century) are some of the most truly patriotic people I know. WRT the legal immigrants, most of them know what they've left and appreciate what they've got here all the more.

Take the civics test at http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/USCIS/Office%20of%20Citizenship/Citizenship%20Resource%20Center%20Site/Publications/100q.pdf and see how you do. I'd love that test to be required for voting -- must score 60 or more for your vote to count.

[Great-Kazoo]

That comes from the soccer culture, nothing more.

[facepalm]


You know, you guys have got to stop providing fodder for liberal stereotypes. Legal immigrants and Mexican-Americans (not necessarily the same thing as some of these Mexican-Americans can trace their heritage on North American soil back to the 17th century) are some of the most truly patriotic people I know. WRT the legal immigrants, most of them know what they've left and appreciate what they've got here all the more.

Take the civics test at http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/USCIS/Office%20of%20Citizenship/Citizenship%20Resource%20Center%20Site/Publications/100q.pdf and see how you do. I'd love that test to be required for voting -- must score 60 or more for your vote to count.


Thank you. The neighbor next to us, 7th generation Coloradoan, who happens to be mexican AND bi-lingual. She has more American settlers / citizens in her family than mine does.

They like Futbol American, not futbol.

[Ronin13]

I guess I need to drive around your guys' parts... Rarely (if ever) do I see any stars and stripes accompanying the el bandera de Mexico... And I would love to meet some patriotic immigrants, ya know, the ones that actually learn English and teach their kids. I see more around Lakewood and near my GF's house that don't, rather than those that do. Must be due to location...

Sent from my evil, black smartphone.

[Kraven251]

It pisses me off to no end, with the spanish option on phone calls, and on guberment documents, and etc, etc.

All that shit costs a lot of money, and we're paying for it. I can't express *fuck you* large enough.

.........end mini rant.

*Chingate*

[RblDiver]

Well, at least we can all share the misery equally at "For the Caution of Health".gov! http://hotair.com/archives/2014/01/12/ap-spanish-obamacare-website-just-as-awful-as-the-english-version/

(Well, I'd personally translate "CuidadoDeSalud.gov" more as "Be careful of health" (with "be careful" as in "caution, be careful and avoid health"))

[Ridge]

Why do I have to press 1 for English?

Well, when was the last time you actually had to press 1 for English? Just about every play I call now says to press 8 for spanish, and just continues on in English.

[Ridge]

I guess I need to drive around your guys' parts... Rarely (if ever) do I see any stars and stripes accompanying the el bandera de Mexico... And I would love to meet some patriotic immigrants, ya know, the ones that actually learn English and teach their kids. I see more around Lakewood and near my GF's house that don't, rather than those that do. Must be due to location...

Sent from my evil, black smartphone.

Oh come on, there has to be like, 3 Mexicans in Evergreen as it is. And they're all working for house cleaning companies up there.

[hatidua]

That is because it is not true.

Apparently the poster is a misprint then:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/hatidua/citizenship_zps02b39d1a.jpg

[Ridge]

That would be referring to, say a work visa. It is illegal to hire illegal immigrants. You have to run their social security number before you can hire them.

[Great-Kazoo]

That would be referring to, say a work visa. It is illegal to hire illegal immigrants. You have to run their social security number before you can hire them.

We all know how effective that is.

[HoneyBadger]

We all know how effective that is.

[ROFL1]

[Aloha_Shooter]

I guess I need to drive around your guys' parts... Rarely (if ever) do I see any stars and stripes accompanying the el bandera de Mexico... And I would love to meet some patriotic immigrants, ya know, the ones that actually learn English and teach their kids. I see more around Lakewood and near my GF's house that don't, rather than those that do. Must be due to location...

Sent from my evil, black smartphone.

Ronin, didn't your Army buddies have some foreign-born spouses? Have you ever talked to immigrants who fled Eastern Europe in the 80s and 90s? For that matter, almost anyone who fled Western Europe as it slow-rolled its way toward their current Socialist structure would give you an earful. There's a gentleman down here in C Springs who immigrated in from Ghana -- he knew Obama personally in college and will talk your ear off about how worthless the guy is and how much it means to be an American citizen and how America has been (until recently) the leading light of the world.

[Great-Kazoo]

I guess I need to drive around your guys' parts... Rarely (if ever) do I see any stars and stripes accompanying the el bandera de Mexico... And I would love to meet some patriotic immigrants, ya know, the ones that actually learn English and teach their kids. I see more around Lakewood and near my GF's house that don't, rather than those that do. Must be due to location...

Sent from my evil, black smartphone.

Yes, you do. A former client of mine, his dad was a POW in germany / WWII. They have major land holdings throughout Ft Collins. The neighbor's grandfather, another WWII vet. Those pesky hispanics, VOLUNTEERED, of all things. Same for another doz or so i am friends with.