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hatidua
01-22-2014, 19:12
http://www.westernjournalism.com/man-arrested-empty-concealed-compartment-vehicle/#y4j0TSoWZlpBUuwI.03

nynco
01-22-2014, 19:16
That is total BS. Heck the inside of your door could be considered a hidden compartment.

rbeau30
01-22-2014, 19:24
How about I can do with MY PROPERTY whatever the hell I please? TYVM

If I want to do "Non-Factory modifications" as they say I'll do what I fucking please.

Rabid
01-22-2014, 20:34
I do not see this law holding up in the courts very well.

TFOGGER
01-22-2014, 20:39
Yup...4th and 6th Amendments, as well as "prior restraint". Just because the hidden compartment COULD be used to conceal contraband, does not mean that that is its only use, and no contraband was found...

SideShow Bob
01-22-2014, 20:39
How about I can do with MY PROPERTY whatever the hell I please? TYVM

If I want to do "Non-Factory modifications" as they say I'll do what I fucking please.

Until a similar "Law" gets passed here in Commierado that is............. It's for the children after all.....

Gman
01-22-2014, 20:42
This country needs an enema.

strm_trpr
01-22-2014, 20:43
WTH. I use "secret compartments" in my vehicles to hide valuables because I do not have a locking compartment. Many factory vehicles have "secret compartments" under cup holders and consoles.

tmleadr03
01-22-2014, 20:43
Well, this is right out then...

http://www.truckvault.com/Products/By_Vehicle/SUV.php (http://www.truckvault.com/Products/By_Vehicle/SUV.php)

http://www.truckvault.com/images/products/TTP_justin_meyers_1_800.jpg

Hound
01-22-2014, 21:05
So Jeeps just have to leave things out? All of my Jeeps have had non factory hiding places so my stuff is not stolen. If I drive through Ohio am I now in jeopardy of being a felon and then losing my guns in Colorado! What the Hell?

DSB OUTDOORS
01-22-2014, 21:12
I always heard that in Commierado by "law enforcement" . That a vehicle is an extension or your house and can only be searched if given consent by the owner, reasonable suspension, or a court order. [Dunno]

brutal
01-22-2014, 21:53
I always heard that in Commierado by "law enforcement" . That a vehicle is an extension or your house and can only be searched if given consent by the owner, reasonable suspension, or a court order. [Dunno]

The perpetuation of this incorrect fact that your vehicle is an extension of your house needs to stop.

https://www.ar-15.co/threads/86165-quot-Your-Car-Is-An-Extension-of-Your-Home-quot-What-does-this-mean?highlight=extension+house

Irving
01-22-2014, 21:56
What if you have hidden compartments in which you store copies of the 4th and 6th amendments?

BPTactical
01-22-2014, 22:09
This country needs an enema.

With a solution of boiling lye and bleach...

HoneyBadger
01-22-2014, 22:19
What if you have hidden compartments in which you store copies of the 4th and 6th amendments?
I really like this idea and I would totally do it ...if trolling a LEO were EVER a worthwhile endeavor.

Big E3
01-22-2014, 23:05
I doubt they would ever need that law here, the only thing left in Commirado that's illegal enough to hide would be an out of state marriage certificate or 30 round mags.

KestrelBike
01-22-2014, 23:20
"but the hidden compartment is where I hide the X from my prying wife..."

mcjhr
01-22-2014, 23:49
Your tax dollars at work!

lowbeyond
01-22-2014, 23:59
How about I can do with MY PROPERTY whatever the hell I please? TYVM

If I want to do "Non-Factory modifications" as they say I'll do what I fucking please.

do what you want. apparent;y some places you are breaking the LAW.

so you are a common criminal. hope you dont own any guns, else you are giving the rest of the LAW ABIDING CITIZEN GUN OWNERS a bad name.

go to jail criminal. Plus, the cop that busted you is a hero just doing his job. dont be a cop hater.

rbeau30
01-23-2014, 00:05
do what you want. apparent;y some places you are breaking the LAW.

so you are a common criminal. hope you dont own any guns, else you are giving the rest of the LAW ABIDING CITIZEN GUN OWNERS a bad name.

go to jail criminal. Plus, the cop that busted you is a hero just doing his job. dont be a cop hater.

The signers of the Declaration of Independence were named criminals too.

lowbeyond
01-23-2014, 00:11
The signers of the Declaration of Independence were named criminals too.

sure!

im just saying if you do this where it is black letter law illegal. and you get busted. dont think anything bad about the cops. they are just doing their job. and have no choice - if they want that pay check.

play stupid games win stupid prizes.

respect your betters who keep you safe at night.

rbeau30
01-23-2014, 00:15
Not getting at what your post means... sarcasm?

If you go 1 mile over the speed limit you are a criminal. If you use an aerosol can in a manner other than in which it was labelled for, etc etc you are a criminal.

I fail to see how my post labels me as "cop hater", but perhaps you can expand on your reply a little bit.

Tone of conversation doesn't go through with text, are you trying to make a point ... I said nothing bad about the cop

... are you insinuating I am stupid?
... who exactly is my betters? I am the one keeping myself safe at night, I don't expect anyone else to.

Irving
01-23-2014, 00:19
He is being facetious about the topic in general. It is not directed at you.

rbeau30
01-23-2014, 00:20
He is being facetious about the topic in general. It is not directed at you.

Ahhh okay, Like I said... tone does not go through in text.

I also get a little emotional seeing times like this when the country I spent 15 years defending is going in the shitter.

Irving
01-23-2014, 00:24
It's a T-CTCS tone. You have to be tuned in to pick it up. ;)

rbeau30
01-23-2014, 00:26
It's a T-CTCS tone. You have to be tuned in to pick it up. ;)


GET BACK TO STUDYING!

spqrzilla
01-23-2014, 04:42
It's a T-CTCS tone. You have to be tuned in to pick it up. ;)
Not to mention tuned to a channel

rockhound
01-23-2014, 07:30
i installed accessories in cars while in college, customer came in with a limo he had bought at a police auction, he had us take the whole car apart top to bottom to make sure their were no drugs in the vehicle. the limo had at least ten different places that had been altered to hide drugs.

Hound
01-23-2014, 07:40
respect your betters who keep you safe at night.

Um... I may respect my fellow citizen but it is arrogance like that statement that make many not want to.

james_bond_007
01-23-2014, 11:59
The Ohio law reads as


“No person shall knowingly operate, possess, or use a vehicle with a hidden compartment with knowledge that the hidden compartment is used or intended to be used to facilitate the unlawful concealment or transportation of a controlled substance.”

Lots of qualifiers in that statement, to the point that it would seem difficult to prosecute the guy based on the OPs original article. From a few other articles on this, I read that the guy and others were being watched for drug trafficking. The "routine" stop was a bit more "targeted" than random. It appears that they stopped the guy hoping to find "stuff", but that he was "between runs" and his compartments were empty.

That is what I pieced together from the multiple articles I had to read to gather some of the pieces. I could not find ONE article that had everything in a nice compact story.
It is not clear what other "evidence" they have on the guy. Perhaps that is what allowed them to charge/hold him ?

Further, IMHO, I believe that the police can mess up your day pretty much anytime they want. I "thought" that they could hold you without charges for a reasonable amount of time (varies by state but I've seen 48-72 hours). At that time they need to charge you, or release you. It is the prosecutor (aka DA) that needs to file the charges for a "crime". It will still cost you inconvenience, time and $$$ even if you are not found guilty.

Then again it is up to you and your wallet if you want to pursue a counter suit. We all feel like we "should", but you really need to look into things before moving forward. EX: In Colorado, if an EMTs blunders something , they can be sued much more successfully if they are from a private company, but hold huge "immunity from prosecution" if they are from a government agency.

Irving
01-23-2014, 13:36
So don't put your cigarettes, beer, or Viagra in there.