View Full Version : AK variant- recoil buffer, xp recoil spring?
I'm curious to see peoples opinion on the AK variant rifle weather to use a recoil buffer, xp recoil spring, both, or leave factory.
Also comment if you want, if you think a specific brand needs something where another doesn't.
I.E. wasr 10 century needs a recoil buffer and xp recoil spring and arsenal doesn't need anything.
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It is not needed and can make things worse. I would only considerate it only if after you have fired a couple hundred rounds and see signs that it is damaging the rear of the receiver or bolt carrier. The bolt carrier will normally stop short of the receiver until you stick a buffer in there for it to hit. This video is interesting concerning the question. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu1_Wm7pqKo
I would leave it alone ,unless you are having problems.
A buffer is just a band aid fix for it not being built properly.
Most the time the gas port is drilled too big.I would have it fixed properly before installing a buffer and or heavier recoil spring.
It is not needed and can make things worse. I would only considerate it only if after you have fired a couple hundred rounds and see signs that it is damaging the rear of the receiver or bolt carrier. The bolt carrier will normally stop short of the receiver until you stick a buffer in there for it to hit. This video is interesting concerning the question. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu1_Wm7pqKo
cool vid on seeing how it's cycling in slow motion.
I would leave it alone ,unless you are having problems.
A buffer is just a band aid fix for it not being built properly.
Most the time the gas port is drilled too big.I would have it fixed properly before installing a buffer and or heavier recoil spring.
I'm not having problems.
i'm just curious as to what peoples opinions are.
i see the product out so i'm just wondering if its needed or if people just like to tinker with their weapons.
cool vid on seeing how it's cycling in slow motion.
I'm not having problems.
i'm just curious as to what peoples opinions are.
i see the product out so i'm just wondering if its needed or if people just like to tinker with their weapons.
Gotcha,it's just people tinkering with the weapon to see if they can get more out of it.
It's just basically snake oil in my opinion.
Great-Kazoo
01-26-2014, 20:36
cool vid on seeing how it's cycling in slow motion.
I'm not having problems.
i'm just curious as to what peoples opinions are.
i see the product out so i'm just wondering if its needed or if people just like to tinker with their weapons.
leave it alone. Unless you're going to ar /magpul/tapco the fuk out of it. In that case please do not post any pictures. People want to put AR shit on something, there's a plethora of AR's out there waiting for modification. An AK is a stand alone, across time as is rifle.
Gotcha,it's just people tinkering with the weapon to see if they can get more out of it.
It's just basically snake oil in my opinion.
"snake oil" thats a good one.
i'm sure the expression has been around, i just haven't heard it.
leave it alone. Unless you're going to ar /magpul/tapco the fuk out of it. In that case please do not post any pictures. People want to put AR shit on something, there's a plethora of AR's out there waiting for modification. An AK is a stand alone, across time as is rifle.
yea i dont do much to my weapons.
i'd rather buy more then spend it on modifications.
thats why i'm looking for wood furniture in the WTB thread.
i'd like it to look more "original".
beast556
01-26-2014, 22:10
When It comes to Ak's The more you mess with them the less reliable they get. They dont need all the extra shit like AR's do.
When It comes to Ak's The more you mess with them the less reliable they get. They dont need all the extra shit like AR's do.
Nice, that's what i like to hear.
i like to just buy guns and shoot them.
not have to do a bunch of stuff to make them shoot better.
yea i dont do much to my weapons.
i'd rather buy more then spend it on modifications.
thats why i'm looking for wood furniture in the WTB thread.
i'd like it to look more "original".
I saw your WTB thread, I usually have all kinds of AK furniture but I do not have anything at the moment that would fit Yugo pattern.
Have you tried APEX? Last I saw they had some.
the buffers will disintegrate with time and gum up the works.
GunsRBadMMMMKay
01-27-2014, 00:19
Any time I tried to use buffers or "tactical" spring packs on an ak it caused issues....they are simple beasts who know their jobs and do them well. My favorite AK mods from experience: Hogue pistol grip (F**K the handgaurds/full stock sets though lol) and a FCG upgrade if born in Romania.
Great-Kazoo
01-27-2014, 09:05
When It comes to Ak's The more you mess with them the less reliable they get. They dont need all the extra shit like AR's do.
the buffers will disintegrate with time and gum up the works.
Any time I tried to use buffers or "tactical" spring packs on an ak it caused issues....they are simple beasts who know their jobs and do them well. My favorite AK mods from experience: Hogue pistol grip (F**K the handgaurds/full stock sets though lol) and a FCG upgrade if born in Romania.
The only "buffer" i have seen that works is a home made one. It was done using a piece of leather / section of belt. It's 1/2 the thickness of mfg buffers, breaks down if battered and does not cause issues with cycling. Of course if you are experiencing the bolt to rear trunnion battering, it is a gas issue and not something to do with the bolt .
I saw your WTB thread, I usually have all kinds of AK furniture but I do not have anything at the moment that would fit Yugo pattern.
Have you tried APEX? Last I saw they had some.
I'm going to check them out this week.
looks like a good shop.
thanks for the info.
beast556
01-27-2014, 20:11
If you don't see what you are looking for on there web site, give them a call and tell them what you are looking for. They have helped me out a few times with parts not listed
I'm going to check them out this week.
looks like a good shop.
thanks for the info.
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