Police: Few violations of 'unenforceable' Colorado gun laws

[UrbanWolf]

122 people denied by BC so far, wow I feel so safe.

http://www.coloradoan.com/article/20140129/NEWS01/301290090/Police-Few-violations-unenforceable-Colorado-gun-laws?nclick_check=1

[muddywings]

122 people denied by BC so far, wow I feel so safe.

http://www.coloradoan.com/article/20140129/NEWS01/301290090/Police-Few-violations-unenforceable-Colorado-gun-laws?nclick_check=1

And how many were investigated/arrested for trying to make purchase when they were legally not allowed to make said purchase? I'm going to throw the wild guess of..... 0.
I would also be curious to know how many of those are erroneous denials that were eventually appealed.

Lastly, anybody shop at Liberty Arms?
His comments:“They make California-compliant models that take 10-round magazines easily,” McClelland said. “Abiding by that law is very easy.”
seems rather herpa derpa. Maybe I'm reading it wrong?

[UrbanWolf]

And how many were investigated/arrested for trying to make purchase when they were legally not allowed to make said purchase? I'm going to throw the wild guess of..... 0.
I would also be curious to know how many of those are erroneous denials that were eventually appealed.

Lastly, anybody shop at Liberty Arms?
His comments:“They make California-compliant models that take 10-round magazines easily,” McClelland said. “Abiding by that law is very easy.”
seems rather herpa derpa. Maybe I'm reading it wrong?

The guy kept calling mags clips, I doubt he knows much.

[TFOGGER]

122 people denied by BC so far, wow I feel so safe.

http://www.coloradoan.com/article/20140129/NEWS01/301290090/Police-Few-violations-unenforceable-Colorado-gun-laws?nclick_check=1

According to CBI, roughly 70% of denials are approved on appeal...

[Rucker61]

And how many were investigated/arrested for trying to make purchase when they were legally not allowed to make said purchase? I'm going to throw the wild guess of..... 0.
I would also be curious to know how many of those are erroneous denials that were eventually appealed.

Lastly, anybody shop at Liberty Arms?
His comments:“They make California-compliant models that take 10-round magazines easily,” McClelland said. “Abiding by that law is very easy.”
seems rather herpa derpa. Maybe I'm reading it wrong?

I've never seen any 1 round magazines there. I have seen plenty of 30 round repair kits.

[spqrzilla]

The site deleted my comment. "Reasoned Discourse" in action.

[thebolt]

Most

[asmo]

Too bad they don't show how many of those 122 "Denies" were later found to be false positives after the denied person followed-up.. I would hazard a pretty educated guess the number would be near zero or at/lower than the same percentage before the laws past.

[merl]

I've never seen any 10 round magazines there. I have seen plenty of 30 round repair kits.
The things people say publicly may not reflect their actions.

[Kraven251]

The things people say publicly may not reflect their actions.

Fortunately, we have access to a number of FFL's whose words and actions are in alignment. Thus we don't have to do business with people that like to talk out of both sides of their mouth to make a buck.

[merl]

The number of denials on a BG check is irrelevant to the law being unenforceable. The unenforceable part is that the police cannot be sure that a gun was transferred with a BG check.

We need registration!

[Mazin]

We need registration!

[hahhah-no]

[Robb]

That will be their argument soon enough.

[UrbanWolf]

For the record, I was denied once two years ago, I later got cleaned with a appeal that took one month, the gun i want was long gone. The reason from CBI was "random error", like I randomly because a criminal?

[mcjhr]

For the record, I was denied once two years ago, I later got cleaned with a appeal that took one month, the gun i want was long gone. The reason from CBI was "random error", like I randomly because a criminal?

Sorry to hear that. The beauty of computers. I wonder if CBI rechecks denials, just to make sure it isn't some sort of internal error. Or ever approvals for that matter.

I know my first purchase I forgot to enter all 3 middle names I have. Oops!

[james_bond_007]

For the record, I was denied once two years ago, I later got cleaned with a appeal that took one month, the gun i want was long gone. The reason from CBI was "random error", like I randomly because a criminal?


But had you really needed a firearm for personal protection, and were denied, you could have "Randomly became a victim".

[kidicarus13]

Fortunately, we have access to a number of FFL's whose words and actions are in alignment. Thus we don't have to do business with people that like to talk out of both sides of their mouth to make a buck.

I prefer FFL's who give PC statement to the media to keep themselves from being made an example of yet sell 30rd magazine "repair kits" vs. those FFL's who talk a big game about 2A rights/F Hickenlooper and then don't sell things like 30rd magazines repair kits. I'll tell you that.

[clodhopper]

I know my first purchase I forgot to enter all 3 middle names I have. Oops!

I was born on Andrews AFB. It seems to be an issue for CBI. Sometimes it goes through fine, other times they come back and require a city name (what do you do there? Just pick a town close by?) and once it was denied.

Government. One size fits none.

[Irving]

My drivers license says something different than my SS card (and my real name) and I have surprisingly not had trouble buying guns.

[cstone]

I was born on Andrews AFB. It seems to be an issue for CBI. Sometimes it goes through fine, other times they come back and require a city name (what do you do there? Just pick a town close by?) and once it was denied.

Government. One size fits none.

Just go with Camp Springs, MD in PG county. What would you do if you had been born in a base that was BRAC'd? Those places don't even have zip codes any more.

[UrbanWolf]

My drivers license says something different than my SS card (and my real name) and I have surprisingly not had trouble buying guns.

If your name is odd ball enough it's fine, mine is like Smith or Jones in English. Plus I'm not a natural born citizen, my background usually goes 30 min+, while my buddy with odd ball German last name always get cleared within 10 min.

[osok-308]

Yeah, I went through the new process recently for a private sale. Filled out paperwork, paid fees, etc. The new process isn't safer than the old process we had. Instead, I had to fill out a background check to prove that I wasn't a criminal, so I could trade a gun that I had received through a background check years earlier, for a new one. I ended up being poorer than I would have been had these new laws not passed. Man I cannot wait until we can get these stupid laws repealed. Also I did the math on the amount of denied people vs the amount of citizens in Colorado. 0.0000235158%. This makes me feel SO much safer, knowing that less than half of a half of a half of a percent of all Coloradans were denied. The people who were denied, were also GOING TO GET A BACKGROUND CHECK. So it is probably safe to assume that they were not criminals, and this is due to some error on the CBI's fault!