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With the retirement of Grayson Robinson, David Walcher has been appointed the new Sheriff. Anyone know his history and what his views/convictions are concerning our 2nd Amendment? I knew that Robinson wouldn't sign off on Form 4's. Those of you in Law Enforcement on this board, I'd like to hear from you.
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OneGuy67
02-01-2014, 15:58
Dave spent most of his career in the Jefferson County Sheriffs office, starting as a deputy and working his way up the ranks. He was recruited by Robinson about four years ago to go to Arapaho County and be his undersheriff with the understanding that he would be the next sheriff.
I met Dave during the Arapahoe HS shooting and he seems to be a good guy.
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Anyone following the line of Patrick Sullivan and Grayson Robinson are not true friends of the 2A. David Walcher is only the appointed sheriff until the 2014 elections.
Anyone following the line of Patrick Sullivan and Grayson Robinson are not true friends of the 2A. David Walcher is only the appointed sheriff until the 2014 elections.
I concur. Sullivan...well, we ALL know the deal there. Robinson, again...another Dem Sheriff who I'm sure would've gladly given the order to kick in doors and confiscate guns if told to by King Obama. I know zilch about David Walcher but since I live in A-County, I'll do some homework between now and election time.
Bailey Guns
02-01-2014, 21:27
I worked with Dave many years ago. Nothing bad at all to say about him, always pleasant, always had time to say "Hi". I don't have a clue where he stands on gun issues, though.
I concur. Sullivan...well, we ALL know the deal there. Robinson, again...another Dem Sheriff who I'm sure would've gladly given the order to kick in doors and confiscate guns if told to by King Obama. I know zilch about David Walcher but since I live in A-County, I'll do some homework between now and election time.
Squeeze is on it here. First question I have is if Obama/state of CO/whoever orders you to cofiscate firearms, will you?
Great-Kazoo
02-01-2014, 22:55
Squeeze is on it here. First question I have is if Obama/state of CO/whoever orders you to cofiscate firearms, will you?
.Once in office will you continue the rubber stamp policy former sheriffs have done. Or will you commence sign off of NFA items. That's a more realistic question, instead of what would be considered "fringe" thinking. Not that i don't disagree with you.
.Once in office will you continue the rubber stamp policy former sheriffs have done. Or will you commence sign off of NFA items. That's a more realistic question, instead of what would be considered "fringe" thinking. Not that i don't disagree with you.
You make a good point. I've heard good things about the Jefferson County Sheriff signing off on Form-4's but that doesn't mean all his fellow deputies agree with that policy. I like the way you put the question, articulate and to the point. I know we're a ways off here, but "IF" he were to run, get elected and agrees to sign off on NFA items...I will actually consider the SBR build again.
I have searched around and can not find his stance on the 2A. About the most information i gathered was from this article http://www.villagerpublishing.com/undersheriff-to-run-for-top-job-in-2014/ . I will email him once i can think of more questions, so far i only have two. Will you enter CCW permit holders into the database and will you sign off on form 4's. The catch 22 of the whole thing is Robinson, and Sullivan IIRR, were Republicans and if a dim wins in 2014 it would certainly open the flood gates for them to win in future elections by endorsement. This would compromise this county and the freedoms we want will be pushed even further under the rug.
Here is his contact information. Do not be a D bag, the ATF informed us a surprising amount were D bags during the public comment period after Obummers EO on the form 4's.
Dave Walcher
P.O. Box 462083
Aurora, CO 80046
davewalcherforsheriff@gmail.com
720-338-6895
OneGuy67
02-02-2014, 09:10
I guess I don't understand your question about entering CCW holders into "the" database. What are you referring to?
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Great-Kazoo
02-02-2014, 09:13
I guess I don't understand your question about entering CCW holders into "the" database. What are you referring to?
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No kidding. There is NO DATA BASE.
Unless some thing has change since the last time i looked it up yes there is a database. Locally the sheriff's must by law keep records on who has a CCW in their county but they also have the option to enter it into the state database that is for official use only i.e. it would show up on the officers screen at a traffic stop.
ETA: After a quick search i found a video of sheriff Cooke and Pelle talking about the database, is this info outdated? http://youtu.be/tgB8EQch9Fw?t=5m49s
Bailey Guns
02-02-2014, 12:16
The database you're thinking of was purged by CBI according to a sunset provision in 18-12-206(3)(b). Yes, each sheriff maintains a list of persons issued a permit. No, there is no longer a statewide database for sheriff's to submit their permit holders to. Or, there's not supposed to be.
SECTION 1. 18-12-206 (3) (b), Colorado Revised Statutes, is amended to read:
18-12-206. Sheriff - issuance or denial of permits - report. (3) (b) (I) Notwithstanding the provisions of paragraph (a) of this subsection (3), on and after July 1, 2007 2011, a sheriff shall not share information from the list of permittees with a law enforcement agency for the purpose of creating a statewide database of permittees, and any law enforcement agency that receives information concerning permittees from a sheriff shall not use the information to create or maintain a statewide database of permittees. Any information concerning a permittee that is included in a statewide database pursuant to paragraph (a) of this subsection (3) shall be removed from the database no later than July 1, 2007 2011.
OneGuy67
02-02-2014, 13:15
Bailey is correct. They no longer report to CCIC CCW's.
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Thank you for the information Bailey.
10mm-man
02-02-2014, 13:38
So in reference to a data base; no state wide data base, local, yes. Did anyone read about the national news agency that is requesting every CCW holder's info? They are getting it from local"databases", and plan on publishing it on a national level, to include a website. I think the "database" question is valid, even though they prob have no choice but to do it local.
I guess this is another reason to back the "constitutional carry" law, no database there.
On another note, I read the following. Looks like maybe he should go work for the City police! It is a partisan issue, very much so.
" I want the job. I know there’s a means to get that, and that’s the process we have,” Walcher said. “I don’t think it should be a partisan issue. I think it should be based on ethics, morals, qualifications, experience and leadership. I’m not a politician. I’m a law enforcement professional."
By saying this he took the road of a politician, so he can appeal to the left which is the majority in A-County.
hunterhawk
02-02-2014, 14:13
I have talked to Walcher a couple times but never about guns but he is a very personable guy.
akumadiavolo
02-03-2014, 20:49
I asked him via his website if he would sign off, his anwser is below. The response did not really answer the question. I have asked 3 times for clarification and he has ignored them all. To me that does not bode well. My Wife spent several years as his neighbor, so I want to like him, but he is not helping.
"I am aware of the changes in the process(potential removal of trusts and companies being able to register), and I know Sheriff Robinson's stance.
I believe these decisions (signing of the forms or not) should be on an individual, case-by-case basis.
Dave Walcher"
I have talked to Walcher a couple times but never about guns but he is a very personable guy.
Many tyrants and dictators have a knack for public speaking, and recruiting people to their side for the cause.
Many tyrants and dictators have a knack for public speaking, and recruiting people to their side for the cause.
They're called a Con Man
I asked him via his website if he would sign off, his anwser is below. The response did not really answer the question. I have asked 3 times for clarification and he has ignored them all. To me that does not bode well. My Wife spent several years as his neighbor, so I want to like him, but he is not helping.
"I am aware of the changes in the process(potential removal of trusts and companies being able to register), and I know Sheriff Robinson's stance.
I believe these decisions (signing of the forms or not) should be on an individual, case-by-case basis.
Dave Walcher"
"Well let me just check your name against my re-election donations list"
(of course it would never actually be spoken aloud)
Aloha_Shooter
02-04-2014, 13:24
I have talked to Walcher a couple times but never about guns but he is a very personable guy.
People have said the same thing about Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. I'm just saying ...
Great-Kazoo
02-04-2014, 15:41
I asked him via his website if he would sign off, his anwser is below. The response did not really answer the question. I have asked 3 times for clarification and he has ignored them all. To me that does not bode well. My Wife spent several years as his neighbor, so I want to like him, but he is not helping.
"I am aware of the changes in the process(potential removal of trusts and companies being able to register), and I know Sheriff Robinson's stance. WILL BE THE SAME ONE I TAKE.
I believe these decisions (signing of the forms or not) should be on an individual, case-by-case basis.
Dave Walcher"
stoner01
02-04-2014, 20:38
If anyone on here is a current ACSO deputy please PM me. I have a couple questions to ask you..
Do we know who will be running against this guy? Sounds like a gun-grabber to me if he isn't stating where he stands. If nothing else he is seeing which way the wind blows instead of just saying where "he" stands.
Do we know who will be running against this guy? Sounds like a gun-grabber to me if he isn't stating where he stands. If nothing else he is seeing which way the wind blows instead of just saying where "he" stands.
I'll throw my name in the hat.
:-D
Great-Kazoo
02-04-2014, 23:54
Do we know who will be running against this guy? Sounds like a gun-grabber to me if he isn't stating where he stands. If nothing else he is seeing which way the wind blows instead of just saying where "he" stands.
Most if not all the SO are a done deal way before the election comes around. The Sheriff like most police chiefs are political in nature.
centrarchidae
02-05-2014, 10:57
"I am aware of the changes in the process(potential removal of trusts and companies being able to register), and I know Sheriff Robinson's stance.
I believe these decisions (signing of the forms or not) should be on an individual, case-by-case basis.
Dave Walcher"
To me, that sounds mostly like, "I have very little idea what you're asking and have never really thought about this, since it's been such a small part of my life or my job, that I'm not really able to give you an answer."
But then, I don't actually know Walcher. Or Robinson. Met Sullivan once and I thought he was a self-promoting douche, but that was before he went all Ted Haggard.
......but that was before he went all Ted Haggard.
Now THAT is funny.
With 3 weeks to go, thought I'd get this back up. Got a "vote for me" letter today with absolutely nothing on his positions. Only qualifications. Anyone ever get any answers from him?
I have a dog in this race as far as my vote goes. Does anybody on here know which one is at least the best choice? It sounds like we have "Unknown" as the only option?
OneGuy67
10-14-2014, 20:17
The Democrat candidate is Tyler Brown, a guy who hasn't been able to hold down a law enforcement job in the several agencies he has worked for in the past. He is/was a security guard for Aurora schools the last time I checked. Dave Walcher, the Republican candidate had a long career in Jeffco before being recruited to join the Arapahoe County S.O. as the undersheriff. I've met Dave a few times and he appears to be a straight shooter.
Just my $0.02 worth.
Aloha_Shooter
10-14-2014, 22:57
The Democrat candidate is Tyler Brown, a guy who hasn't been able to hold down a law enforcement job in the several agencies he has worked for in the past.
Sounds like another John Morse.
I seem to recall Arapahoe County was one of the 7 (of 62 total) county Sheriffs who did NOT sign on to opposition of the new gun legislation. The County Sheriffs of Colorado were strong opponents of the new laws (http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2013/0129/20130129_113251_GunControlLegislation.pdf) and many/most have refused to enforce many of the new laws (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/17/colorado-sheriffs-gun-laws_n_4460401.html).
In this respect, at least, Arapahoe County is an outlier, and I wonder where Walcher stands on these issues. By all appearances, he is aligned more with the big city police departments who supported these gun laws, than with the county sheriffs who opposed them.
Anyone have any better information?
I live in ArapCo too, know quite a few folks in the SO, they say Walcher is a "gun guy"-what ever that exactly means. No idea on where he stands re: the lawsuit. It was always pretty clear on Robinson's stance though he was in support of the of the ccw change when we went from "may" to "shall" issue. Robinson became much more D as time went on.
I seem to recall Arapahoe County was one of the 7 (of 62 total) county Sheriffs who did NOT sign on to opposition of the new gun legislation. The County Sheriffs of Colorado were strong opponents of the new laws (http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2013/0129/20130129_113251_GunControlLegislation.pdf) and many/most have refused to enforce many of the new laws (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/17/colorado-sheriffs-gun-laws_n_4460401.html).
In this respect, at least, Arapahoe County is an outlier, and I wonder where Walcher stands on these issues. By all appearances, he is aligned more with the big city police departments who supported these gun laws, than with the county sheriffs who opposed them.
Anyone have any better information?
IIRC, Robinson joined the other Sheriffs in opposition of the new Laws later in the campaign. He saw where his constituents were leaning and went the same way. Politician he was.
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