View Full Version : You can’t celebrate America
electronman1729
02-03-2014, 20:32
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/02/03/todd-starnes-cant-celebrate-america-school-says/
I cant believe this S##T, of all places Colorado. I could see this happening in California but Colorado? You have got to be s####ing me! I dont care where you came from but if america offends you get the F### out!
This surprises you? Did you know Geico can save you 15%? Where have you been the last 6-8 years?
Did you not see the Coke Ad in the Superbowl? Same junket.
osok-308
02-03-2014, 21:10
Some people need to listen to the message that Trey Parker and Matt Stone made a long time ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFYcXi5a1Lo
trlcavscout
02-03-2014, 21:42
Fuckin Colorado.
Its time the term civil disobedience be turned against liberals. These students should just organize Merica Day using social media, preferably on the 5th of May. If America wasn't so great, none of these immigrants would be here, legally or illegally, and their claim that they would be uncomfortable is complete BS.
Next thing you know all holidays will be cancelled.
Jesus-With-A-.45
02-03-2014, 22:46
It's a beautiful day comrade.
10mm-man
02-03-2014, 23:02
BULL SHIT!!! WTF
RblDiver
02-03-2014, 23:25
Just read that at the Coloradoan. Unbelievable. Wait, make that totally believable, FC is very quickly becoming Little Boulder. (Hell, a soapbox of mine's appearing tomorrow, and online I've been accused of plagiarizing from Heritage...great, seeing as how I've never been to their site :P lol)
KevDen2005
02-03-2014, 23:39
Try and stop me.
Damn Straight.
I guess I see this differently, if we really have a chance to beat back liberalism, the liberals just need to keep pissing off 15 and 16 year old kids. That's how things will get changed in the future, not by us old farts complaining about how it used to be. We just need to be there to point out what liberalism is and remind them of the principles this country was founded on in the first place, and that they are the future that can change it back.
Bailey Guns
02-04-2014, 07:27
The asst principal has received my email.
DavieD55
02-04-2014, 07:41
Its time the term civil disobedience be turned against liberals. These students should just organize Merica Day using social media, preferably on the 5th of May. If America wasn't so great, none of these immigrants would be here, legally or illegally, and their claim that they would be uncomfortable is complete BS.
Next thing you know all holidays will be cancelled.
Exactly. They need to go ahead and organize the celebration anyway.
blacklabel
02-04-2014, 07:57
Exactly. They need to go ahead and organize the celebration anyway.
Yes they do. Celebrate America by practicing its ideals.
UrbanWolf
02-04-2014, 08:37
FCHS is part of IB schools, International Bachelorette program is backed by the United Nations, I wonder...
blacklabel
02-04-2014, 08:44
There's over 100 IB schools in Colorado. I doubt that the UN is in this vice principles ear telling him to be an unpatriotic pussy.
UrbanWolf
02-04-2014, 08:45
There's over 100 IB schools in Colorado. I doubt that the UN is in this vice principles ear telling him to be an unpatriotic pussy.
But the principle is probably taking the International thing too seriously himself.
Listening to Peter Boyles. Cinco de Mayo is mandated at this school. Don't you love diversity and assimilation. :)
speedysst
02-04-2014, 09:26
With this I agree. The students will get a good taste of the hypocrisy of having to celebrate May 5th while not being able to celebrate their own country. It will hopefully leave a very bitter taste.
I guess I see this differently, if we really have a chance to beat back liberalism, the liberals just need to keep pissing off 15 and 16 year old kids. That's how things will get changed in the future, not by us old farts complaining about how it used to be. We just need to be there to point out what liberalism is and remind them of the principles this country was founded on in the first place, and that they are the future that can change it back.
Rucker61
02-04-2014, 09:32
But the principle is probably taking the International thing too seriously himself. "Principal". I don't see any principles in this school.
blacklabel
02-04-2014, 09:37
"Principal". I don't see any principles in this school.
Public education. I was a victim of it too.
buffalobo
02-04-2014, 09:44
Another step on the path. Indoctrination at it's finest.
These kids need to work with their parents and stage walk outs.
Lobbed from my electronic ball and chain
Its time the term civil disobedience be turned against liberals. These students should just organize Merica Day using social media, preferably on the 5th of May. If America wasn't so great, none of these immigrants would be here, legally or illegally, and their claim that they would be uncomfortable is complete BS.
Next thing you know all holidays will be cancelled.
They should shut school down. By they I mean the people in the community.
Liberals act, we bitch, Liberals win.
Rucker61
02-04-2014, 09:55
Other citations indicate that the high schoolers considered it "Hick Day", to make fun of the gun toting, Duck Dynasty redneck types. I don't know about foreigners, but I consider that offensive. Sounds like they're already liberally indoctrinated.
School administration can't even back up their descisions. Hell why even teach American history in schools? Better yet let's all wear white robes and masks. We don't want someines skin color to offend anyone.
School administration can't even back up their descisions. Hell why even teach American history in schools? Better yet let's all wear white robes and masks. We don't want someines skin color to offend anyone.
White robes?!?!?! you racist!!!!
[ROFL1]
Let me think...I know.
Let's flay all the students and staff, then they'll all be the same, after all color is only skin deep.
BushMasterBoy
02-04-2014, 11:18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zMzeKBEvaQ
RblDiver
02-04-2014, 11:40
FCHS is part of IB schools, International Bachelorette program is backed by the United Nations, I wonder...
You sure about that? 10 years ago when I was in IB, we were over at Poudre, not FCHS, did they change something?
newracer
02-04-2014, 11:51
Poudre is the IB HS in Fort Collins.
kidicarus13
02-04-2014, 11:57
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zMzeKBEvaQ
I had to stop watching it at about 2 minutes in. Sometimes reality is a real downer.
In a current Superbowl thread I commented about how much the Coke commercial with 'American the Beautiful' being sung in languages other than English upset me. I was met with criticism for my comments and subsequent stance & asked to explain exactly why it was I could possibly feel this way. Now maybe some will understand why.
brianakell
02-04-2014, 13:04
In a current Superbowl thread I commented about how much the Coke commercial with 'American the Beautiful' being sung in languages other than English upset me. I was met with criticism for my comments and subsequent stance & asked to explain exactly why it was I could possibly feel this way. Now maybe some will understand why.
Unfortunately, America has no national language adopted.
Anyway we can assist the students in having their patriotism week? We need to get a bunch of kids in red/white and blue for the week. Start getting suspensions handed out if the school wants, but do it for a week and Ill bet it makes national news. Might even start a trend all over the country, and go "viral" really making a whole lot of schools really go kookoo. And maybe, just maybe, we can get some of the tards in charge to rethink thier anti-offending-anyone policies. Which those policies offend me!
Unfortunately, America has no national language adopted.
I keep hearing that but I'm pretty sure it's widely known that English is what's spoken in the US. This statement just feels like something the agenda has been feeding us for decades so we believe it. I remember a time when the instructions for items I bought were 100% in English. In fact, I feel like we SHOULD make a language official and it should be called American since English is what those busted grill British speak in England and that's clearly not what we speak here.
Anyway we can assist the students in having their patriotism week? We need to get a bunch of kids in red/white and blue for the week. Start getting suspensions handed out if the school wants, but do it for a week and Ill bet it makes national news. Might even start a trend all over the country, and go "viral" really making a whole lot of schools really go kookoo. And maybe, just maybe, we can get some of the tards in charge to rethink thier anti-offending-anyone policies. Which those policies offend me!
Since when did we start asking for permission to wear red, white & blue? Sounds like the next indoctrination right after convincing kids we have no official language.
rockhound
02-04-2014, 13:23
The asst principal has received my email.
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ZERO THEORY
02-04-2014, 13:26
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Aloha_Shooter
02-04-2014, 13:27
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KevDen2005
02-04-2014, 13:41
I keep hearing that but I'm pretty sure it's widely known that English is what's spoken in the US. This statement just feels like something the agenda has been feeding us for decades so we believe it.
Our forefathers had this discussion about language. Remember this was and is an immigrant country. At no time when I say that do I mean open the borders and let whoever in. I would also note that the some of the immigration rules are ridiculous, possibly created by an agency similar to the IRS. I have known legal and illegal immigrants. I can tell you that it upsets the immigrants that are here legally and went through the proper channels immensely that they were required to do it and there is no requirement, so it seems, for others. I can tell you that the immigrants that I know that came here legally are more American and patriotic than a lot of people I know. They are military service members and/or veterans. They wave the flag with pride. They vote. And the ones that remember the nations they came from, they are extremely conservative.
After watching the video I have to say that I am not so concerned about the white vs. another race thing. I am extremely concerned at the dismantling of my nation and our culture. We have a culture in our country and it is not just an adoption from other nations. You can ask immigrants this and they will tell you. I do believe they're is an agenda to assimilate us to be one thing and I think that goes much deeper than race or color.
Our forefathers had this discussion about language.
...in English.
Remember this was and is an immigrant country.
This fact is not lost on me but it also isn't a fact that changes anything I've said. My ancestors came here from Germany & Russia and part of the coming here was learning the language. They actually took pride in learning the language as it was part of becoming accepted as an American among other Americans. Nobody wanted to NOT know English because they didn't want to stand out as not being American. Somewhere along the line we lost that pride in learning English and as a result I have to push 1 to get English instructions when I call a local store to find out if they have something in stock. My ancestors didn't expect instructions to be in English & German nor do we have instructions in EVERY language on earth so why Spanish? Seems to me if you genuinely wanted to be an American you'd want to speak the language and regardless of if it's been stated in ink somewhere the language here is English no matter what someone tries to convince you.
At no time when I say that do I mean open the borders and let whoever in.
Part of the problem is that this is essentially what we've been doing but it's beside the point.
I would also note that the some of the immigration rules are ridiculous, possibly created by an agency similar to the IRS. I have known legal and illegal immigrants. I can tell you that it upsets the immigrants that are here legally and went through the proper channels immensely that they were required to do it and there is no requirement, so it seems, for others. I can tell you that the immigrants that I know that came here legally are more American and patriotic than a lot of people I know. They are military service members and/or veterans. They wave the flag with pride. They vote. And the ones that remember the nations they came from, they are extremely conservative.
They're ridiculous for a reason. If it were simple then everyone who is here illegally would be here legally and we don't want that. We want those who have the motivation and drive to actually jump through a few hoops in order to EARN their citizenship. We want the smarter people who can fill out a form and make complex decisions. We don't want other country's rejects that will be a drain on our society because we already have enough of that. We want those who are willing to put in the effort to prove not only that they will be of benefit to our society but realize how important being a citizen actually is and that it's something that should be cherished and not taken lightly. Those who have gone through proper channels to do all of this are just as infuriated about the things I talk about as those who were born here and in most cases even more so because they of all people realize what an opportunity it is. Those people learn English and sing America the Beautiful in English.
After watching the video I have to say that I am not so concerned about the white vs. another race thing. I am extremely concerned at the dismantling of my nation and our culture. We have a culture in our country and it is not just an adoption from other nations. You can ask immigrants this and they will tell you. I do believe they're is an agenda to assimilate us to be one thing and I think that goes much deeper than race or color.
So you're concerned about the dismantling of our nation and our culture but don't see where the English language or our treasured national anthems are part of this culture and even want to argue with me about it? Da fuh?
And on another note, NYC schools are getting new holidays.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/education/nyc-public-school-kids-new-holidays-article-1.1601237
New York City public school kids getting new Muslim, Lunar New Year holidays
Mayor de Blasio said Monday that he’d move forward with closing schools for Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha, two Muslim holy days, and for Lunar New Year. But he was hesitant regarding Hindu festival Diwali.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/education/nyc-public-school-kids-new-holidays-article-1.1601237#ixzz2sO78GI20
n8tive97
02-04-2014, 14:45
It's out of control!
kidicarus13
02-04-2014, 14:49
July 4th... OUT, Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha... IN. Sarcasm of course.
KevDen2005
02-04-2014, 15:01
So you're concerned about the dismantling of our nation and our culture but don't see where the English language or our treasured national anthems are part of this culture and even want to argue with me about it? Da fuh?
I wasn't really arguing as much as making some other points, including the point that there is no national language and this was brought up by our forefathers and discussed. Although it was in English, they had some reasoning as to not make English our national language. Mind you, German was a consideration of a national language as well.
But I'm not sure why someone can't be patriotic and love this country in another language. I think we as a nation give too much appeasement to immigrants, other languages, and other cultures that come here and refuse to adapt to ours at all. But, having some common sense in this, if we forced a complete surrender of other cultures what would we have left? Certainly not my family's spaghetti sauce recipe. My grandparents came here from Italy and loved this country very much as to volunteer during a major war. Almost every capable male that was of age fought in World War Two from my Italian side.
Again, I'm just pointing out that people bring cultures together to make our country great. The greater problem is the appeasement when immigrants demand certain things to be changed purely to benefit their culture, whereas my Italian relatives adapted to the change and kept the parts that they wanted to. They even spoke Italian at home and some of the older family members couldn't speak English at all.
I think there is a lot more of a problem than allowing people to speak a different language in country that has no national language.
ETA: Also, I want to point out that at I am contacting FT. Collins HS to tell them I don't agree with them and I encourage everyone to do the same. My point all along is that we should be Americans, but that doesn't mean that you have to give up who you are.
BREATHER
02-04-2014, 16:32
I am an American. All the african-American, Polish-American, Italian-American is, I do not know what. I was born in America and so was half my grandparents. I am an American.
BREATHER
02-04-2014, 16:35
I did send a polite e-mail to ft. Collins H.S. stating that celebrating America is very politically correct. and people should love America or leave it. Got a pretty long reply back, saying there was a misunderstanding with the public and they were surprised there was such an outpour from the public....
Geology Rocks
02-04-2014, 17:13
I thought the kids wanted to celebrate Merica day which is slang for America in a negative way? Basically the bad things America is known for and not truly celebrating true America.
I wasn't really arguing as much as making some other points, including the point that there is no national language and this was brought up by our forefathers and discussed. Although it was in English, they had some reasoning as to not make English our national language. Mind you, German was a consideration of a national language as well.
But I'm not sure why someone can't be patriotic and love this country in another language. I think we as a nation give too much appeasement to immigrants, other languages, and other cultures that come here and refuse to adapt to ours at all. But, having some common sense in this, if we forced a complete surrender of other cultures what would we have left? Certainly not my family's spaghetti sauce recipe. My grandparents came here from Italy and loved this country very much as to volunteer during a major war. Almost every capable male that was of age fought in World War Two from my Italian side.
Again, I'm just pointing out that people bring cultures together to make our country great. The greater problem is the appeasement when immigrants demand certain things to be changed purely to benefit their culture, whereas my Italian relatives adapted to the change and kept the parts that they wanted to. They even spoke Italian at home and some of the older family members couldn't speak English at all.
I think there is a lot more of a problem than allowing people to speak a different language in country that has no national language.
ETA: Also, I want to point out that at I am contacting FT. Collins HS to tell them I don't agree with them and I encourage everyone to do the same. My point all along is that we should be Americans, but that doesn't mean that you have to give up who you are.
When did I say you have to give up who you are? Were you singing America the Beautiful in your native tongue in your home country? Not likely.
I did send a polite e-mail to ft. Collins H.S. stating that celebrating America is very politically correct. and people should love America or leave it. Got a pretty long reply back, saying there was a misunderstanding with the public and they were surprised there was such an outpour from the public....
In other words they were testing to see if they could get away with it and now are back peddling because someone is paying attention for now.
RblDiver
02-04-2014, 17:42
I thought the kids wanted to celebrate Merica day which is slang for America in a negative way? Basically the bad things America is known for and not truly celebrating true America.
I think 'Merica did indeed start out as a poke at rednecks, but it's sort of like Duck Dynasty which became super popular. Thus, now it's actually a positive love of country.
RblDiver
02-04-2014, 17:43
Some students DID stand up for 'Merica, and now it's America Day. http://www.coloradoan.com/article/20140204/NEWS01/302040057/Amid-protests-Fort-Collins-school-changes-Merica-Day-America-Day
KevDen2005
02-04-2014, 17:58
When did I say you have to give up who you are? Were you singing America the Beautiful in your native tongue in your home country? Not likely.
Okay, we are obviously not getting anywhere. I did not say that I spoke Italian and if I sang at all I would sing it in my Native tongue, which is how we are communicating now. I was born here in the US and my family's first and only language at this point is English. I was only trying to point out that when my extended family came here they did not all speak English. I wasn't trying to get into a major debate only point out a few other aspects. You are obviously very upset about the non-English Coke commercial and I definitely see your point. I am just not offended. I personally think you are upset at the wrong thing and I am willing to bet that we are in more agreement than you realize.
Geology Rocks
02-04-2014, 17:59
I think 'Merica did indeed start out as a poke at rednecks, but it's sort of like Duck Dynasty which became super popular. Thus, now it's actually a positive love of country.
Its still known for the bad thing and paints America in a negative light.
"lets deep fry snickers!" Merica!
"Lets drink bud and use a chainsaw to trim the hedges!" Merica!
"Lets complain about giving $5 to starving children then lets see if we can eat a 16 pound steak!" Merica!
Its not about everything that is good about America, it's about the bad. I think some
of its funny and 100% awesome but in an official setting its bad in my opinion. More Chuck Yeager and Neil Armstrong and less Axl Rose
Surprised I didn't see anyone mention this?
So back story student council proposed "America Monday" which was shot down as the principal thought it would offend non-American students, what ever that means, damn political correctness. The council then proposed "Merica Day" (bad taste) it was shot down for the same reasons.
So today Sheriff Smith showed up in front of the school to protest and show support to the students, with enough negative response from locals and parents the Principal had to apologize and now there is an "America Day."
The start of it all; Student council told cant celebrate "America" at Ft Collins school it will "offend" non-americans.
(http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/02/03/todd-starnes-cant-celebrate-america-school-says/)
Today; (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/02/04/administrators-reverse-ban-on-american-celebration-at-high-school/)Sheriff Smith protests in front of school. School reverses ban and apologizes. (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/02/04/administrators-reverse-ban-on-american-celebration-at-high-school/)
http://global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/U.S./flag1.jpg
HoneyBadger
02-04-2014, 21:18
Awesome. He is a gentleman and a scholar.
stoner01
02-04-2014, 21:21
It's 'Merica Monday.
BPTactical
02-04-2014, 21:42
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Well done.
Was this a play on the Southpark theme? "Merika"? Just call it America and get on with it. Screw foreigners if they are offended, GTFO! I suspect no one was offended or they wouldn't be here trying to be part of America.
KestrelBike
02-04-2014, 21:47
Awesome!
clublights
02-04-2014, 21:48
Repost
https://www.ar-15.co/threads/125347-You-can’t-celebrate-America
SamuraiCO
02-04-2014, 21:52
KevDen, Jers points are similar to most of our reactions to "common sense gun control regulations". Little bites on our freedoms until the whole 2A is meaningless and we all look around and say "How we get here?" Or " I just hunt why does someone need an AR? No one needs to be armed that is what the police are for" and on and on.
We see how the little steps have progressed in states like NY and CA and did not want CO going anywhere close to that, the same is true for political correctness especially in our schools. This double talk sticks out and needs to be resoundly bitch slapped back like we did with 3 out of work Dems.
I agree with other posters the kids should organize over social media and show 'Merica in the positive light and the beacon to the world. God these are the times I wished I had kids of my own. Hope someone here has kids in that school and can keep us posted.
electronman1729
02-04-2014, 22:06
Listening to Peter Boyles. Cinco de Mayo is mandated at this school. Don't you love diversity and assimilation. :)
A post i did about Sink Day Mayo
https://www.ar-15.co/threads/102039-Sinko-De-Mayo-Anguish
KevDen2005
02-04-2014, 22:32
KevDen, Jers points are similar to most of our reactions to "common sense gun control regulations". Little bites on our freedoms until the whole 2A is meaningless and we all look around and say "How we get here?" Or " I just hunt why does someone need an AR? No one needs to be armed that is what the police are for" and on and on.
We see how the little steps have progressed in states like NY and CA and did not want CO going anywhere close to that, the same is true for political correctness especially in our schools. This double talk sticks out and needs to be resoundly bitch slapped back like we did with 3 out of work Dems.
I agree with other posters the kids should organize over social media and show 'Merica in the positive light and the beacon to the world. God these are the times I wished I had kids of my own. Hope someone here has kids in that school and can keep us posted.
I am not disagreeing with you. All I am saying is, what I gathered from the video, and others, is that being white and American are one in the same and I don't think it has to be that way. I do believe in reverse racism, and I do believe that our government often turns our cultures against one another. And I do believe that political correctness is bad and will destroy this country. All I wanted to do was bring up instances in which peoples from other nations came here to be patriotic and they did not speak the native language. They have been doing for hundreds of years now, really.
All I wanted to do was bring up instances in which peoples from other nations came here to be patriotic and they did not speak the native language.
Doesn't really have much if anything to do with the thread topic or the indoctrination example I brought up in support of the topic. Not knowing a language of a country you plan to reside in the second you set foot on it's soil is understandable and not in question. A major corporation advertising alleged diversity by having a song we consider a national treasure sung in languages other than ours is upsetting for those who consider themselves American that are tired of English being considered more and more of an option to being an American. If I hated this country so much that I felt France was the best bet for a life of opportunity I sure as hell wouldn't arrive and show my thanks by singing their songs of nationalism in English. I'd at least learn to sing those songs in the native tongue as I learned the language in general. I'm not asking for anything I wouldn't do myself because, after all, that's a HUGE part of becoming a citizen of that nation. If I expect them to bend their nation to me language and way of life then why did I leave the US to begin with? I feel like we're going round and round over the same things here and it's not really on topic so I'll just agree to disagree if you can't understand how anything I'm saying is a reasonable expectation of those who wish to be a part of our great society.
BREATHER
02-05-2014, 12:43
Here's another memory. I served in the U.S. Navy in the seventies and there were Navajos on board that could barely speak English. They were from a rez. Good guys but you had to listen close and hard...
funkymonkey1111
02-05-2014, 13:15
I always though "'merica" was a term somehow related to W and his perceived inability to pronounce many words correctly. I don't like in 'merica or 'murica or whatever--and view them as frankly stupid terms.
Aloha_Shooter
02-05-2014, 13:28
Here's another memory. I served in the U.S. Navy in the seventies and there were Navajos on board that could barely speak English. They were from a rez. Good guys but you had to listen close and hard...
Ah heck, that's nothing new. I knew white (Irish/Italian) guys from New Yawk that could barely speak English and had to be listened to very closely in order to be understood ... and then there are the Bostonians. ;-)
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