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tmleadr03
02-10-2014, 11:17
http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/10/gun-stun-gun-control-activist-swears-he-forgot-he-was-carrying-gun-while-visiting-school/
GUN STUN: Gun control activist swears he forgot he was carrying gun while visiting school
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/10/gun-stun-gun-control-activist-swears-he-forgot-he-was-carrying-gun-while-visiting-school/#ixzz2swNRIqlv
newracer
02-10-2014, 11:24
It will be interesting to see how the case goes.
My takeaways:
Like most gun grabbers, he's a hypocrite.
He's unlikely to be charged and convicted with a felony under a law he promulgated.
Amazingly, his gun didn't jump from its holster and randomly start murdering children.
Why is it illegal for properly vetted people to carry in schools again? He had a pistol permit, and yet they still did everything but call in an airstrike...
HoneyBadger
02-10-2014, 11:34
It's hard to win against this level of stupid. [Shake]
Very interesting indeed. I can see the judge letting him walk on bail. Seems like an honest mistake. But, the law is the law. He of all people should know and understand, good person or not.
jhood001
02-10-2014, 11:58
Seems like an honest mistake.
No, no it doesn't.
No, no it doesn't.
How so?
n8tive97
02-10-2014, 12:04
He is trying to prove a point....
jhood001
02-10-2014, 12:07
How so?
'Forgetting' that you're carrying for starters. Then, 'forgetting' that you're carrying in one of the most controversial no-carry zones. Finally, 'forgetting' that you're carrying in one of the most controversial no-carry zones when you're active in anti-2A legislation.
Still more, Ferguson is something of a professional vigilante in Buffalo. He can be seen patrolling local malls and city streets in an effort to stop gang violence.
This guy thought he was exempt because he is one of the good guys. Period.
I hope they press the full charges on this guy. Maybe then, he'll see how silly these laws are.
I can see that as being totally valid. Lets hope the judge doesn't see it that way.
I do believe that if he is stupid enough to "forget", he shouldn't be carrying.
Bailey Guns
02-10-2014, 12:14
Screw this douchebag. Arrest him, charge him with a felony and let him go through the system. Maybe then he'll be a little more careful what he wishes for.
I'm sure right now fellow liberals and gun-control activists are racking their brains trying to figure out how to get him out of this.
NFATrustGuy
02-10-2014, 13:03
They're not going to try to get him out of it. He'll be the sacrificial lamb to promote their cause and further restrict the right to carry. They'll point out that even a staunch anti-gun person can forget he's carrying--and if HE can do it, it could certainly happen to those of use who carry every day. Hence… we shouldn't be allowed to carry because we might forget and walk into a school with our weapon of mass destruction inside our waistband.
I'm more concerned for my safety and the safety of my family while at my niece's high school basketball game than I am while sitting at Subway eating lunch. At the high school, I figure the only people carrying are bad guys.
wctriumph
02-10-2014, 13:53
Nope, I don't buy it. Forgot he was wearing a gun, yeah right. How is that even possible. I am willing to bet that I have been carrying a gun longer than he has and I NEVER forget that I am wearing a deadly weapon on my person. Run him through the system without prejudice and see how he is treated. It might set a precedent.
What a liar this guy is.
TEA
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DavieD55
02-10-2014, 14:17
Yep. Throw the book at that sumbi---.
If he were here in Colorado HB1043 took away "intent". Even having access to the gun in his car, parked off campus, could have landed him in this trouble.
Many, even on this forum, do not realize how bad the First gun law HB-1043 (they passed this last year before we knew it) really was. Anybody with a CCW is especially in danger from it!
osok-308
02-10-2014, 15:11
Hypocrite for sure. They like guns, just no one else can be trusted with them!
Aloha_Shooter
02-10-2014, 15:34
I'm generally and advocate for "shall issue" on CCW permits but I think licensing authorities should seriously think about revoking permits for anyone who has voiced support for outright bans or for limiting issue of CCWs.
"The community activist has claimed that he forgot he was carrying his gun in a felony gun-free zone he helped create."
Every time I hear this I assume the person claiming to have forgotten is either a liar or stupid. Both are serious enough for me to question someone's right to exercise their Constitutional Right to Bear Arms. Perhaps a public admission to his stupidity and some community service hours working to undue the "common sense" violations of the rights of honest, law abiding citizens would be appropriate.
They're discussing this on The High Road too.
My question is - hasn't it always been illegal to carry a gun on school grounds, nationwide?
And besides the point the dipshit "forgot" he was carrying (everyone who believes that, stand on your head), just exactly WHO saw his gun and reported it, and if he's so "well known in the building", why wasn't he identified right away? I mean, come on...we're supposed to believe the guy didn't even know himself that he was carrying, but a stranger could tell that he was?
Something stinketh of boolshit.....
spongejosh
02-11-2014, 00:41
Among much else, the 2013 law, deemed New York’s SAFE Act, made it a felony to carry a gun on school property, according to The Buffalo News.
While it was always illegal to carry a gun on school grounds, the new law bumped the crime from a misdemeanor to a felony in response to the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.
Yeah I'm sure the Sandy Hook shooter wouldn't have done it if he knew it was a felony instead of a misdemeanor. I find it hard to believe people can be this stupid.
I hope this guy gets jail time.
HoneyBadger
02-11-2014, 07:33
They're discussing this on The High Road too.
My question is - hasn't it always been illegal to carry a gun on school grounds, nationwide?
And besides the point the dipshit "forgot" he was carrying (everyone who believes that, stand on your head), just exactly WHO saw his gun and reported it, and if he's so "well known in the building", why wasn't he identified right away? I mean, come on...we're supposed to believe the guy didn't even know himself that he was carrying, but a stranger could tell that he was?
Something stinketh of boolshit.....
Very stinky indeed. [pileoshit]
Great-Kazoo
02-11-2014, 08:44
They're discussing this on The High Road too.
My question is - hasn't it always been illegal to carry a gun on school grounds, nationwide?
And besides the point the dipshit "forgot" he was carrying (everyone who believes that, stand on your head), just exactly WHO saw his gun and reported it, and if he's so "well known in the building", why wasn't he identified right away? I mean, come on...we're supposed to believe the guy didn't even know himself that he was carrying, but a stranger could tell that he was?
Something stinketh of boolshit.....
Calling out a person of color / Black, especially in NY, you might as well be wearing a yellow star, in 30's germany.
DISCLAIMER: "Internet investigating at work"
He was probably showing it off and someone dropped a dime on him. I'm now waiting for Sharpton to media blitz, saying the over reaction by LE WAS based on the "alleged" accused skin color. Stay tuned as we update this news story.
Bailey Guns
02-11-2014, 08:46
My question is - hasn't it always been illegal to carry a gun on school grounds, nationwide?
No...some states allow concealed carry in public schools with a permit. Specifically, Utah. I don't know of any others but there probably are.
Whistler
02-11-2014, 20:09
They're discussing this on The High Road too.
My question is - hasn't it always been illegal to carry a gun on school grounds, nationwide?
The school I went to I had a shotgun in the gun rack in my truck in the school parking lot everyday right next to dozens of others. If it was illegal nobody ever said anything...
SideShow Bob
02-11-2014, 20:36
The school I went to I had a shotgun in the gun rack in my truck in the school parking lot everyday right next to dozens of others. If it was illegal nobody ever said anything...
Same here, we even had a JROTC armory for the marksmanship qualification rifles. But that was in a different century and better morales were taught at home.
Eh, poor choice of words on my part. Didn't really mean "always", since us older guys can remember gun racks in trucks, school shooting teams, etc. Reckon I meant "isn't it illegal anyway?".
Aloha_Shooter
02-12-2014, 00:24
My question is - hasn't it always been illegal to carry a gun on school grounds, nationwide?
No. Congress tried making it illegal nationwide with the Gun Free School Zones Act in 1990 but the Supreme Court ruled Congress couldn't use the Interstate Commerce Clause as an authority for the legislation. Janet Reno suggested changes which were subsequently passed by Congress to try to get around lack of authority under the ICC. So far, those changes have been deemed sufficient to "fix" the act.
I think you will find that it was not only not forbidden prior to 1990 but it was actually quite common and accepted practice in many localities up until the 1970s and even later.
NFATrustGuy
02-12-2014, 09:13
My brother and I used to shoot on the local Jaycee's BB gun team... We practiced in the auditorium at one of the local Jr. High schools here in Loveland--Con Ball Jr. High--for those of you in Loveland. Can you imagine if somebody proposed this today? And I'm not THAT old!
RWW
Rucker61
02-12-2014, 10:17
Same here, we even had a JROTC armory for the marksmanship qualification rifles. But that was in a different century and better morales were taught at home. My high school did too, and as a member of the JROTC I fired firearms more than a few times in the basement range.
newracer
09-23-2014, 23:06
A case of "Laws for Thee but Not for Me"
http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/23/gun-control-activist-who-swore-he-forgot-he-was-packing-heat-at-school-gets-lenient-sentence/
Back in February, a Buffalo, N.Y. community activist who pushed for a highly restrictive 2013 gun control law (SAFE ACT) was arrested for — wait for it — carrying a gun illegally at a public elementary school.
The wheels of criminal justice have now slowly, slowly churned to completion. And wouldn’t you know it? The judge in the case has now found it in his heart to give the heat-packing activist, Dwayne Ferguson, a generously light sentence.
On Monday, Judge John L. Michalek sentenced Ferguson to 100 hours of community service and a conditional discharge, according to local CBS affiliate WIVB. Michalek also sternly ordered Ferguson to keep his nose clean.
If Ferguson completes the service requirements and stays out of trouble, he won’t have to answer for the substantially more serious charge initially levied against him: Possessing a firearm on schools grounds. (He initially was looking at two felony charges of criminal gun possession.)
Bailey Guns
09-24-2014, 06:28
I know it's NJ rather than NY, but I wonder if Shaneen Allen will get the same leniency? She's the single mom, nurse's aide, with a PA permit who was stopped in NJ and arrested for carrying her gun.
The prosecutor in her case couldn't do enough to initially minimize Ray Rice's actions of beating his wife unconscious...but he's trying to throw the book at Allen. I found this and thought it summed up some of my thoughts on her case:
The point here is not to ask why Democrats aren’t race-mongering the Allen case; there’s little reason to suppose that there actually is a race angle to her case, and the fewer causes Al Sharpton takes up, the better. But unless the Leftist outrage machine requires a dead body to activate, it’s hard to escape the conclusion that they don’t actually believe their own talking points.
It's hard to imagine a group of people these ridiculous laws hurt more than hard-working, minority women trying to safely raise a family on their own.
muddywings
09-24-2014, 15:21
I know it's NJ rather than NY, but I wonder if Shaneen Allen will get the same leniency? She's the single mom, nurse's aide, with a PA permit who was stopped in NJ and arrested for carrying her gun.
The prosecutor in her case couldn't do enough to initially minimize Ray Rice's actions of beating his wife unconscious...but he's trying to throw the book at Allen. I found this and thought it summed up some of my thoughts on her case:
It's hard to imagine a group of people these ridiculous laws hurt more than hard-working, minority women trying to safely raise a family on their own.
If this was more local i expect it would have it's own thread but since it doesn't, I'll stick this here.
http://m.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/breaking/shaneen-allen-to-be-admitted-into-pretrial-intervention/article_e12a151a-4422-11e4-8743-7f4df4d9bb52.html?mode=jqm
Shaneen Allen to be admitted into pretrial intervention
I wouldn't be surprised if this is partly to do to the slap on the wrist this guy got.
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