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Mtn.man
02-17-2014, 13:13
“The U.S. Army has built a 300 acre ‘fake city’…in order to train for unspecified future combat scenarios.”



http://minutemennews.com/2014/02/u-s-army-builds-replica-city-practice-invasion/ (http://minutemennews.com/2014/02/u-s-army-builds-replica-city-practice-invasion/)

Mick-Boy
02-17-2014, 13:20
MOUT facilities aren't new. Here's Camp Pendleton's (http://www.pendleton.marines.mil/StaffAgencies/AssistantChiefofStaffG35/TrainingSupportDivision/MOUTFacilities.aspx) in CA where I trained in 2001.

As to the indoctrination... well... it pays to be vigilant.

Ah Pook
02-17-2014, 14:25
Isn't there also one in KY?

asmo
02-17-2014, 14:41
While MOUT cities are nothing new -- the organization and buildings in this city are a little different than the others. This isn't some mud city, or anything from the east. This is modeled after something in the US - down to US style houses and restaurants. With signs in english, american cars on the street, etc.

<MADDOG>
02-17-2014, 14:56
MOUT facilities aren't new. Here's Camp Pendleton's (http://www.pendleton.marines.mil/StaffAgencies/AssistantChiefofStaffG35/TrainingSupportDivision/MOUTFacilities.aspx) in CA where I trained in 2001.

As to the indoctrination... well... it pays to be vigilant.

This.

Not to mention, it's part of TRADOC, and it really isn't that big.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d108/pperron/Fort_AP_Hill_VA_22538__Google_Maps_20140216_054010 _20140216_061849_zps9a6f30f3.jpg (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/pperron/media/Fort_AP_Hill_VA_22538__Google_Maps_20140216_054010 _20140216_061849_zps9a6f30f3.jpg.html)

Colorado_Outback
02-17-2014, 15:02
What freeway has a round about and a 90* turn in it? Haha And you guys are worried..

Ridge
02-17-2014, 15:04
What American city has a goddamn soccer stadium in it?

rbeau30
02-17-2014, 15:05
What American city has a goddamn soccer stadium in it?

They still play Soccer?

Teufelhund
02-17-2014, 15:06
MOUT facilities aren't new. Here's Camp Pendleton's (http://www.pendleton.marines.mil/StaffAgencies/AssistantChiefofStaffG35/TrainingSupportDivision/MOUTFacilities.aspx) in CA where I trained in 2001.

As to the indoctrination... well... it pays to be vigilant.

+2. In 2000 we bused up from Pendleton to do our MOUT training at a closed Air Base in Victorville, using the base housing area. Pretty much a model of any suburban area in America. We were under the impression at the time that it was to simulate what we would encounter in the middle east though.

whitbaby
02-17-2014, 15:14
Soccer?? Was ist soccer??

zteknik
02-17-2014, 15:18
Tinfoil is a bit to tight....Seems like people are going a bit over paranoid..

Last one I played at was at Ft Indian Town Gap PA.
More like a small town then a city,but sufficient enough for small unit training.

Irving
02-17-2014, 15:21
That's cool as hell!

rbeau30
02-17-2014, 15:27
What would be awesome is on downtimes, the army should rent it out for huge paintball or airsoft tourneys.

hghclsswhitetrsh
02-17-2014, 15:41
Isn't there still a housing development out near dia that the local pd's use for training?

Bailey Guns
02-17-2014, 15:41
What American city has a goddamn soccer stadium in it?

HUGE +1!

Ah Pook
02-17-2014, 15:48
What American city has a goddamn soccer stadium in it?
What city has all American cars in it?

Eric P
02-17-2014, 15:52
I hope that the majority of US soldiers will think for themselves and not blindly follow orders to invade and occupy a US city.

rbeau30
02-17-2014, 15:55
I hope that the majority of US soldiers will think for themselves and not blindly follow orders to invade and occupy a US city.

This, and for one thing, most regular soldiers are not told the whole story as well. Yeah, it could be just a benign training place.

But really you are just giving them urban combat skills. The skills could be used anywhere. The commanders are the ones that employ those skills to a particular theater.

Guylee
02-17-2014, 15:59
That actually looks like a pretty badass training facility. Like it was said before...your tinfoil is too tight.

StagLefty
02-17-2014, 16:08
Soccer?? Was ist soccer??

Futbol [facepalm]

<MADDOG>
02-17-2014, 16:15
I call BS anyway; I don't see any furniture in the pics that are published...

Where is the fun of MOUT without having a love-seat dropped on your head from the 2nd floor? [LOL]

drew890
02-17-2014, 16:17
Tinfoil. I've trained at the Zussman MOUT facility at Ft Knox, the MUTC in Indiana, the old housing area in Victorville CA, and the Boaz and Hargrove MOUT facilities at Ft Hood. This new MOUT site doesn't sound any different.

Lurch
02-17-2014, 16:18
What American city has a goddamn soccer stadium in it?

Commerce City is a city in America but not really sure it's an American city.

Rucker61
02-17-2014, 16:19
I had one of the most fun nights of my military life at AP Hill, and one of the worst.

blacklabel
02-17-2014, 16:43
What freeway has a round about and a 90* turn in it? Haha And you guys are worried..

And a roundabout.

Colorado_Outback
02-17-2014, 16:47
That's what I said.. lol

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ChunkyMonkey
02-17-2014, 16:55
Those make great pain ball battle.

Great-Kazoo
02-17-2014, 16:57
Ever wonder if the .mil is going, what the hell are all those civilians prepping for?

blacklabel
02-17-2014, 17:00
That's what I said.. lol

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Jesus, I need to slowdown when I read.

<MADDOG>
02-17-2014, 17:00
What does bother me is the pricetag: $96M.

They could have bought 1/2 of Detroit for that, complete with dilapidated houses, office buildings, factories, churches, etc...[Beer]

OneGuy67
02-17-2014, 17:05
Here is the larger of the MOUT sites at Fort Carson. Trained there quite a bit.

http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz210/bluebouyz/qq_zpsfd12ece1.jpg (http://s828.photobucket.com/user/bluebouyz/media/qq_zpsfd12ece1.jpg.html)

Has several multi story buildings, houses, etc. Not sure it is too suspicious though.

Colorado_Outback
02-17-2014, 17:12
Looks like east of Springs... EVERYBODY [panic]

No worries blacklabel I know what you mean.

Great-Kazoo
02-17-2014, 17:59
What does bother me is the pricetag: $96M.

They could have bought 1/2 of Detroit for that, complete with dilapidated houses, office buildings, factories, churches, etc...[Beer]


That'd be racist. .Mil moving in on poor people of color.

Ridge
02-17-2014, 18:02
What does bother me is the pricetag: $96M.

They could have bought 1/2 of Detroit for that, complete with dilapidated houses, office buildings, factories, churches, etc...[Beer]

Someone advocating a smaller military budget on this board. This should go well.

<MADDOG>
02-17-2014, 18:18
That'd be racist. .Mil moving in on poor people of color.
Nah, there are plenty of abandoned areas.


Someone advocating a smaller military budget on this board. This should go well.
It was sarcasm Ridge...Sand in your vagina?

Monky
02-17-2014, 18:19
That'd be racist. .Mil moving in on poor people of color.

We've done that before.. then we gave them reservations.

Rucker61
02-17-2014, 18:25
What does bother me is the pricetag: $96M.

They could have bought 1/2 of Detroit for that, complete with dilapidated houses, office buildings, factories, churches, etc...[Beer]

...live fire OPFOR.

SideShow Bob
02-17-2014, 18:31
Isn't there still a housing development out near dia that the local pd's use for training?

Yeah, it's called Green Valley Ranch............[LOL]

Great-Kazoo
02-17-2014, 19:18
We've done that before.. then we gave them reservations.

Touche'

ChadAmberg
02-17-2014, 19:42
Do we still have the invasion plans for Canada? Someone needs to pay for Obamacare.

10mm-man
02-17-2014, 19:45
Already said

BPTactical
02-17-2014, 19:53
Yeah, it's called Green Valley Ranch............[LOL]

Live fire training no less...

RMAC757
02-17-2014, 22:27
Isn't there still a housing development out near dia that the local pd's use for training?

Montbello

Singlestack
02-17-2014, 22:39
What does bother me is the pricetag: $96M.

They could have bought 1/2 of Detroit for that, complete with dilapidated houses, office buildings, factories, churches, etc...[Beer]

...and real bad guys to shoot at! [AR15]

KestrelBike
02-17-2014, 22:42
Don't forget, in the supremely off chance that someone invades the US, then US troops should probably know how to fight on their own turf.

Now, it is simply unthinkable for any modern country[ies] to be physically capable of mounting an invasion of the continental US that wasn't a flash-in-the-pan suicide act.

So: Aliens. The Gov. knows something they're not telling us!

ETA: Pulse Rifles. In Detroit.

hghclsswhitetrsh
02-17-2014, 22:44
Montbello

Haha GVR and Montbello are my hustle too.