View Full Version : Where to find a good deal on a Liberty Fatboy Jr safe?
I am looking to purchase a Liberty Fatboy Jr (or similar safe) soon. Outside of Gander Mountain, who else sells them locally?
hghclsswhitetrsh
02-23-2014, 12:27
http://www.safeandwarm.com
They are from buena vista but deliver to the Denver metro area often. Good guys, excellent install. There's a few forum members that have used them as well.
mountainjenny
02-23-2014, 12:55
I bought my Liberty at Big R on a Black Friday Sale
colorider
02-23-2014, 13:00
http://www.safeandwarm.com
They are from buena vista but deliver to the Denver metro area often. Good guys, excellent install. There's a few forum members that have used them as well.
Yep. Great to deal with.
funkymonkey1111
02-23-2014, 13:16
Yep. Great to deal with.
I've been to the guy's shop--good guy.
^^^This. Great guys and excellent service. You better give them a call quick if you want anything Liberty as I was told when they delivered my safe that Liberty was canceling their contract to focus more on Big Box stores.
Liberty makes an ok safe. The safe outlet on I-70 sells comparable safes.
Liberty makes an ok safe. The safe outlet on I-70 sells comparable safes.
I had a chance to check those out at one of the Tanner Gun Shows and, although they were nice safes, they were priced significantly higher than other similar models by Liberty, Ft. Knox, and others.
funkymonkey1111
02-23-2014, 15:53
I had a chance to check those out at one of the Tanner Gun Shows and, although they were nice safes, they were priced significantly higher than other similar models by Liberty, Ft. Knox, and others.
Murdoch's has sold liberty safes in the past. I don't know if they still do--might be worth a call.
twitchyfinger
02-23-2014, 16:36
^^^This. Great guys and excellent service. You better give them a call quick if you want anything Liberty as I was told when they delivered my safe that Liberty was canceling their contract to focus more on Big Box stores.
Kind of ironic because I bought mine at Lowes. Just checked their website and the Fatboy Jr. is no longer listed but they do still sell smaller liberty safes. Those guys in Buena Vista I would definitely check into!
I never had an experience with them just heard they use to have good prices? I hope you find what your looking for might try armslist?
...try armslist?
That's a good idea. I hadn't considered it. Thanks for the idea!
If you need a good mover call englewood lock and key. They do an awesome job!
hghclsswhitetrsh
02-23-2014, 17:11
If you need a good mover call englewood lock and key. They do an awesome job!
Or opie11 here on the forum.
Teufelhund
02-23-2014, 18:25
This should probably go without saying at this point... but stay the F out of Gander Mtn.
I ordered a Liberty through them in November. They lost the safe (in their own warehouse) and it took months to get it straightened out. They made it right (after I got a little heated in the store) by giving me quite a nice upgrade out of their inventory for the same price, but it was not worth the hassle.
This should probably go without saying at this point... but stay the F out of Gander Mtn.
They have the exact model I want and the price isn't bad either but, like you, I cannot say that I am not a huge fan of their customer service practices.
Murdochs had them previously, and when they did, they were well under the pricing I saw anywhere else. Worth a shot, and the store at 92nd/wads wouldn't be too terribly far from you.
Murdochs had them previously, and when they did, they were well under the pricing I saw anywhere else. Worth a shot, and the store at 92nd/wads wouldn't be too terribly far from you.
You are a genius J. I will swing by tomorrow to see if they have it in stock: http://www.murdochs.com/shop/freedom-safe-fatboy-jr-gun-safe-w-combination-lock
Yep, and $200 cheaper than Gander, when comparing regular price at both places.
Bailey Guns
02-23-2014, 19:27
The Big R store in Conifer has them...always on sale and I don't recall the price. The last time I looked they had the sale prices clearly marked with another sign that said, "Talk to store manager for an even better price". I think they're trying to clear out the large number of safes they have in stock.
You are a genius J. I will swing by tomorrow to see if they have it in stock: http://www.murdochs.com/shop/freedom-safe-fatboy-jr-gun-safe-w-combination-lock
I bought my Fat Boy (the big one) from Murchdocs. However, I was in the Parker store a month or two back and the prices had shot up quite a bit. The manager said that the pricing increases had come from the manufacturer due to "supply and demand" issues.
That being said, if you're not in a hurry, you can buy the gift cards they run a couple times a year. They give you about 15-20% more in value than it costs to buy the card. Not sure if they run them in the summer or if it's just a Thanksgiving/Christmas thing. When I bought my safe, I had the gift cards, so I saved the 15-20%, plus they were doing a "buy a safe, get $100 off" deal, so it worked out to be an awesome deal.
Bought mine on sale at murdocks a couple years ago for $777 although I haven't seen them at that good of a price since.
^^^This. Great guys and excellent service. You better give them a call quick if you want anything Liberty as I was told when they delivered my safe that Liberty was canceling their contract to focus more on Big Box stores.
WTF??? Are you sure about that?
Rooskibar03
02-25-2014, 18:00
I'm late to party but safe and warm for sure. Great guys.
WTF??? Are you sure about that?
Yup. That's what I was told while they (can't remember the name of the owner right now) were unpacking my safe. He also cleans chimneys, but said safes were his bread and butter and was looking for another brand to replace Liberty. I guess it's the small business guys who are getting the shaft.
Yup. That's what I was told while they (can't remember the name of the owner right now) were unpacking my safe. He also cleans chimneys, but said safes were his bread and butter and was looking for another brand to replace Liberty. I guess it's the small business guys who are getting the shaft.
Mark, or Marc, I believe. I've talked to him a couple of times, nice guy. I have a hardon to buy a safe from him (mainly because of price, selection, and the all-important delivery & setup!), yet can't afford one yet. I think he told me he's the largest volume Liberty dealer in the state, why the hell would they drop him.....that's friggin' stupid.
Rooskibar03
02-25-2014, 22:36
Mark, or Marc, I believe. I've talked to him a couple of times, nice guy. I have a hardon to buy a safe from him (mainly because of price, selection, and the all-important delivery & setup!), yet can't afford one yet. I think he told me he's the largest volume Liberty dealer in the state, why the hell would they drop him.....that's friggin' stupid.
If this is the case it might be time for some harsh words to liberty directly.
funkymonkey1111
02-26-2014, 12:03
just got an email that everything is 10% off at murdochs Friday 2/28. I don't know if you ever verified they had the safes but here's a shot to get 10% off if they do
Mark at Safeandwarm replied to my email.
Liberty ended his distributorship in October, because of the new Cabela's stores in CO. No letters, no discussions, no negotiations, no arbitration, just a phone call saying it's over. He said he'd bought nearly a million dollars worth of safes from Liberty over the last four years, and they just cockblocked him out. They'd rather sell their products through cold big box retailers than through a loyal, hardworking, honest, independent businessman that provides personal customer service such as free delivery and installation/setup?
So I don't think I want to own a damn Liberty safe now, or any of their other brands, or anything made by them.
Fuck 'em.
Rooskibar03
02-26-2014, 14:52
Mark at Safeandwarm replied to my email.
Liberty ended his distributorship in October, because of the new Cabela's stores in CO. No letters, no discussions, no negotiations, no arbitration, just a phone call saying it's over. He said he'd bought nearly a million dollars worth of safes from Liberty over the last four years, and they just cockblocked him out. They'd rather sell their products through cold big box retailers than through a loyal, hardworking, honest, independent businessman that provides personal customer service such as free delivery and installation/setup?
So I don't think I want to own a damn Liberty safe now, or any of their other brands, or anything made by them.
Fuck 'em.
Ill be curious to know if this is an isolated incident or a pattern of focus to different distribution methods.
Will reach out to liberty and see what response is.
colorider
02-26-2014, 15:44
I would bet that Cabela's made this part of their agreement to sell Liberty products. Most likely said that they will be the "primary" dealer in colorado and that Liberty needed to get rid of the other small dealers. Cutting out the local down home people to suck up to the big box stores. Happens all the time and it's bullshizz.
When Harley Davidson was bought out from AMF by the employees, it took a few years for them to stabilize. But once they started to get stronger and growing, they went after small independent bike shops with a vengeance, slinging lawsuits left and right for all kinds of stupid things. I personally interviewed three shop owners that fought them and barely survived. Not to mention copyrighting all kinds of names and terms that HD riders had been using for years. And they'll still sue someone at the drop of a hat.
No, I'll never buy a new Harley either. Or a used one from a dealer. I may buy one from some poor schlub that needs to sell his though. If I ever buy a Liberty safe it'll be from a private seller as well.
Loyalty is important, on both sides.
Yep this is just another good reason why I'm glad I didn't buy a liberty safe.
I can get brand new TL-15 and TL-30 safes....just sayin' [Coffee]
Seriously though, check out ridgeline safes. They are local in Golden and have many dealers in a lot of gun stores.
http://www.ridgelinesafes.com/products/gun-and-ammo-safes/
I can get brand new TL-15 and TL-30 safes....just sayin' [Coffee]
Seriously though, check out ridgeline safes. They are local in Golden and have many dealers in a lot of gun stores.
http://www.ridgelinesafes.com/products/gun-and-ammo-safes/
Well now, that's interesting - locally made? And has your approval? I must investigate this.....
Firehaus
02-26-2014, 22:09
Does look promising. Their site says safes and vaults, but I can't find any vault info. I'm thinking about just putting a vault door on a concrete room I already have. Do they only show vaults in their showroom?
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I can get brand new TL-15 and TL-30 safes....just sayin' [Coffee]
Seriously though, check out ridgeline safes. They are local in Golden and have many dealers in a lot of gun stores.
http://www.ridgelinesafes.com/products/gun-and-ammo-safes/
I could have swore I saw a "Made in China" sticker in the door of Ridgeline Safes. The price was good for what you get, but that sticker bothered me. Maybe I'm mistaken, so correct me if I'm wrong.
Well now, that's interesting - locally made? And has your approval? I must investigate this.....
I could have swore I saw a "Made in China" sticker in the door of Ridgeline Safes. The price was good for what you get, but that sticker bothered me. Maybe I'm mistaken, so correct me if I'm wrong.
Yes they are made overseas. I know that may bother some but, don't let that scare you. It's a quality safe for the price. I know that the owner is coming out with a new line in the next few months that will have amazing options!!
Does look promising. Their site says safes and vaults, but I can't find any vault info. I'm thinking about just putting a vault door on a concrete room I already have. Do they only show vaults in their showroom?
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They don't have any vault doors on display but can custom order.
Opie
Are you a dealer for these guys?
If so, could you pm ne a price list?
crays
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Firehaus
02-27-2014, 13:34
They don't have any vault doors on display but can custom order.
Thanks for the info. I'm starting to budget for the door and install so just collecting info.
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Does look promising. Their site says safes and vaults, but I can't find any vault info. I'm thinking about just putting a vault door on a concrete room I already have. Do they only show vaults in their showroom?
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You have a concrete room you can make into a vault? You lucky son of a.....
How big is it? Basement? Nice and dry I hope? A basement vault would be tits! Except for schlepping guns up and down the stairs for range trips.
Rooskibar03
02-27-2014, 14:16
So I reached out to them yesterday asking if indeed the shift was away from small independent dealers to the "big box" model. Today I received a response.
Dear Craig,
I wanted to acknowledge your email to Liberty Safe regarding the termination of Mark Arnold of Safe and Warm as a dealer for Liberty Safe. Liberty will choose not to make it a public matter as to why Mr. Arnold’s dealership was terminated. There are always two sides to a story. I will let you know however that it was not in regards to Cabelas putting a store in the Denver area and our termination of his dealership happened long before this event. Cabelas does provide a great resource for the areas it supports, and I respect your decision of not wanting to purchase from a big box store. We will have in place a new Independent Safe Store in the area within the next month as we are just finishing up the paperwork.
The big box stores are important to Liberty Safes business, but so are our Independent Dealers and we need to align ourselves with the best of both. Liberty’s Independent Dealers that we have partnered with are the backbone of our company and we try to run our business as such.
Thank you for purchasing a product from us that meets your needs. If your product ever is in need of service of any kind, Liberty will provide that service for as long as you own the product. I respect your decision to consider other brands for your future needs, but would ask that you would reconsider knowing that there will be a new Liberty Store in the area to provide sales, service and delivery.
Respectfully,
Dale Coats
Director of Dealer Sales
Liberty Safe & Security Products
801-925-1000
1199 W Utah Ave
Payson, UT 84651
Firehaus
02-27-2014, 23:49
You have a concrete room you can make into a vault? You lucky son of a.....
How big is it? Basement? Nice and dry I hope? A basement vault would be tits! Except for schlepping guns up and down the stairs for range trips.
Not huge, maybe 8x8x8 and dry. Walls are 8-9" thick. I figured it would make more sense than a safe.
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Not huge, maybe 8x8x8 and dry. Walls are 8-9" thick. I figured it would make more sense than a safe.
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Well, not big enough for a dream man-cave, but certainly big enough for a nice gun & ammo vault! I hope you can git 'er done.
I found this place in my researching. Don't know them, but they offer Ft. Knox vault doors. I'm sure many other places do too, Opie can probably hook you up as well. http://hilltopsafes.mobi/app/fort-knox-vaults/2648892/36/
So I reached out to them yesterday asking if indeed the shift was away from small independent dealers to the "big box" model. Today I received a response.
Well, "two sides to every story", bullshit. I'll still never knowingly spend any of my money on any Liberty products. Fuck 'em.
sic_semper_tyrannis
02-28-2014, 23:27
I can confirm that those Ridgeline safes are made in China. I was looking at them when shopping for a safe back in December. They seemed fine, but they were not noticeably cheaper than similar USA-made models.
stevelkinevil
03-01-2014, 01:12
Is it time yet???
Is it time yet???
No kidding. This thread got horribly derailed.
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