View Full Version : Glock "blue box" (leo) dealer in front range area?
I'm eligible for Glock blue-label purchases (LEO, EMT, FF, etc.).
5280 Armory has a few, but nothing I want. Green Mountain guns isn't a Glock master dealer or whatever they need to be to sell blue-label Glocks.
Anybody know of another Glock dealer with some inventory of LEO blue-label guns?
neves in denver, is the only glock leo dealer in colo. that im aware of.
http://www.nevesuniforms.com/
I am pretty sure Jensens does LEO stuff.
The Extractor
04-22-2009, 17:59
The tradesman in Rifle is set up for that.
ryanek9freak
04-22-2009, 18:02
Why don't more cops carry 1911's? Seems like Glock reigns supreme over anything else in the LEO world. Maybe the "blue box" incentive is why?
Why don't more cops carry 1911's? Seems like Glock reigns supreme over anything else in the LEO world. Maybe the "blue box" incentive is why?
most cops are not "gun guys" and the few that are, cant because most departments make you carry what they issue.
also glocks are pretty idiot proof(not calling cops idiots) and they go bang everytime.
bowhunter
04-22-2009, 19:03
neves in denver, is the only glock leo dealer in colo. that im aware of.
http://www.nevesuniforms.com/
+1 on Neves, great guys to deal with.
GunTroll
04-22-2009, 19:09
G&G off of colfax and wads maybe?? next to Wendy's.
G&G's is closed now (thank god).
What is a blue box GLOCK?
The label is blue, it is the leo model with 3 mags, ill post a pic of one of mine tomorrow if no one does by then.
ryanek9freak
04-23-2009, 06:01
Glocks are good weapons, but the grip angle is too severe for me. I won't carry anything without an external hammer. It sucks that the dept. won't let you carry whatever you want. I'd be packing a Sig or a CZ.
The Ohio Highway Patrol does carry Sig 229's in .40 s&w. Nice guns.
Why don't more cops carry 1911's? Seems like Glock reigns supreme over anything else in the LEO world. Maybe the "blue box" incentive is why?
Because they'd hurt themselves with it. Seriously. Most of our guys are not gun guys and handing them a single action pistol that is already cocked is an issue.
The reality is that the liability issues outweigh the benefits. And under stress the Glock is the next best thing to a revolver. Only one moving part to mess with.
A 1911 is more work to maintain, and Glocks seldom fail or go bad. Adequate training, more then a Glock would be required to get guys up to speed on a 1911, and we're already being told to cut back on ammo consumption.
A glock is a glock. The blue label really only means it has an extra magazine in the box.
When I was drunk at the Electric Cowboy (don't patronize me, it wasn't my choice) a few weeks ago; I was bugging the cop at the door about what kind of carry gun he had. He told me it was a 1911, and I was totally surprised.
A glock is a glock. The blue label really only means it has an extra magazine in the box.
...and perhaps most importantly that the dealer pays less for it from Glock, and can sell it for less to a qualified buyer.
...and perhaps most importantly that the dealer pays less for it from Glock, and can sell it for less to a qualified buyer.
What is a "qualified buyer"?
SA Friday
04-23-2009, 12:17
The only differences are cheaper price, an extra hi-cap mag, and at one time a 3.5 disconnector in the 34's and 35's. Price is the big difference.
More than a few CO LE agencies work off of approved handgun lists. If it's on the list, the officer can qualify and carry the pistol. I know more than a few who carry 1911 models. I also know more than a few officers that shoot the 1911/2011 firearms to master class in USPSA. I've seen the whole spectrum of gunhandling skills in LE agencies, but overall compared to the non-LE in the USA, they have more skill simply because they have to qualify on a routine basis. Comparison can be a tricky thing. Bob Vogel is the 2008 USPSA Production Division National Champion and is also an LE officer. Conversely, I can see the need for adequate training, and with current shortages of ammo, bullets, primers, time, and manpower, I would go the way of the easiest and fastest too.
Why would one limit themselves to only the handguns with external hammers on them? I never understood this, and I never understood this thinking by our military in the formulation of previous handgun criteria. Food for another thread...
What is a "qualified buyer"?
Check with Glock for details, but I believe any of the following qualify from Glock directly. I'm not sure if authorized resellers like Neve's honor all of these categories or not.
LEO
EMS
Fire fighters, including volunteer
Airline pilots
Retired LE
Retired Military
Correction officers
Certain "security" officers
...and perhaps most importantly that the dealer pays less for it from Glock, and can sell it for less to a qualified buyer.
Because they don't charge the FET on LE guns.
for the 21
G21FIX-DeptFirearm: Dept Purchase W/Fixed Sights
FET Exempt Form Required = $422.00
G21FIX-OfficerFirearm: Officer Purchase W/Fixed Sights
Departmental Letterhead Required = $465.95
G21GNS-DeptFirearm: Dept Purchase W/Glock Night Sights
FET Exempt Form Required = $475.00
G21GNS-OfficerFirearm: Officer Purchase W/Glock Night Sights
Departmental Letterhead Required = $522.95
G21TNS-DeptFirearm: Dept Purchase W/Trijicon Night Sights
FET Exempt Form Required = $495.00
G21TNS-OfficerFirearm: Officer Purchase W/Trijicon Night Sights
Departmental Letterhead Required = $544.95
for the 22
G22FIX-DeptFirearm: Dept Purchase W/ Fixed Sights
FET Exempt Form Required = $364.00
G22FIX-OfficerFirearm: Officer Purchase W/Fixed Sights
Departmental Letterhead Required = $399.95
G22GNS-DeptFirearm: Dept Purchase W/Glock Night Sights
FET Exempt Form Required = $414.00
G22GNS-OfficerFirearm: Officer Purchase W/Glock Night Sights
Departmental Letterhead Required = $457.95
G22TNS-DeptFirearm: Dept Purchase W/Trijicon Night Sights
FET Exempt Form Required = $434.00
G22TNS-OfficerFirearm: Officer Purchase W/Trijicon Night Sights
Departmental Letterhead Required = $478.95
the label from one of mine it has a blue tint, thus the name.
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd27/rruusseell1/101_0719.jpg
ryanek9freak
04-23-2009, 17:41
The only differences are cheaper price, an extra hi-cap mag, and at one time a 3.5 disconnector in the 34's and 35's. Price is the big difference.
More than a few CO LE agencies work off of approved handgun lists. If it's on the list, the officer can qualify and carry the pistol. I know more than a few who carry 1911 models. I also know more than a few officers that shoot the 1911/2011 firearms to master class in USPSA. I've seen the whole spectrum of gunhandling skills in LE agencies, but overall compared to the non-LE in the USA, they have more skill simply because they have to qualify on a routine basis. Comparison can be a tricky thing. Bob Vogel is the 2008 USPSA Production Division National Champion and is also an LE officer. Conversely, I can see the need for adequate training, and with current shortages of ammo, bullets, primers, time, and manpower, I would go the way of the easiest and fastest too.
Why would one limit themselves to only the handguns with external hammers on them? I never understood this, and I never understood this thinking by our military in the formulation of previous handgun criteria. Food for another thread...
Because , if for some reason the primer doesn't go bang, I want to be able to just recock the hammer, not re-rack a whole slide. And in some instances, I like to have the hammer dropped, with a round in the chamber. I HATE semi autos with internal hammers. I don't trust them.
I HATE semi autos with internal hammers. I don't trust them.
Tell us about some of the times that they've failed on you.
GunTroll
04-25-2009, 16:04
G&G's is closed now (thank god).
They are not closed. Drove by today and saw open sign light up.
Because , if for some reason the primer doesn't go bang, I want to be able to just recock the hammer, not re-rack a whole slide. And in some instances, I like to have the hammer dropped, with a round in the chamber. I HATE semi autos with internal hammers. I don't trust them.
I was trained that no matter what the malfunction is, you start with a tilt tap rack. you dont try and diagnose what it is then fix it, you go straight into an immediate action drill and clear whatever went wrong. If that doesnt work, go to a class 3 drill, and if that doesnt work, throw the damn thing at them!
Nothing wrong /w an internal hammer. I cant remember when the last time my glock or my walther p99qa failed me!
ryanek9freak
04-25-2009, 16:26
Tell us about some of the times that they've failed on you.
Let me tell you about the time a Luger I own. The sear notch on the striker broke, and fired the gun as soon as the action closed, with the saftey on, and my finger off the trigger.
Put a round in my basement wall. I realize that Lugers do not have hammers, but it's the same principal. I know there are plenty of trustworthy semi autos with internal hammers, but I simply do not like them at all. There's a reason why the military will only have guns with external hammers. They're much more redundant.
IF, and that's a big IF, I were to carry a gun with an internal hammer, it would be a Springfield XD variant. They have a very good design.
ryanek9freak
04-25-2009, 16:29
I was trained that no matter what the malfunction is, you start with a tilt tap rack. you dont try and diagnose what it is then fix it, you go straight into an immediate action drill and clear whatever went wrong. If that doesnt work, go to a class 3 drill, and if that doesnt work, throw the damn thing at them!
Nothing wrong /w an internal hammer. I cant remember when the last time my glock or my walther p99qa failed me!
Oh and right...When someone's firing rounds at you, you totally have time to diagnose a problem with your gun. I'd much rather, when seconds count, be ablt to re-cock the hammer for a second chance at saving my life. Weak strikes can and do happen.
Oh and right...When someone's firing rounds at you, you totally have time to diagnose a problem with your gun. I'd much rather, when seconds count, be ablt to re-cock the hammer for a second chance at saving my life. Weak strikes can and do happen.
I could be wrong, but didnt i say to NOT diagnose it? just do the exact same thing every time, for every malfunction... if it doesnt clear it, go into a class 3 drill, which clears a double feed, the only malfunction the immediat action drill does not work for, and if that doesnt work, your in some shit. 99.9 percent of the time these will fix it, and you probably wont know what went wrong till after the smoke has cleared... thats all basic defense shooting training. its a muscle memory thing. gun no worky? immediate action. gun still no worky? class 3.
I had a class 3 malfunction during the night shoot at the academy. fired 2 to the chest, turned my light off, aquired target number 2 for a headshot and turned my light back on, and realized as a was squeezing the trigger the weapon was not in battery. put my light under my arm, tap tilt rack. nothing. class 3 drill. BANG! ...hit my mark, and still finished before some of the other shooters...
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