View Full Version : The GOP just lost to hickenlooper come Nov.
Great-Kazoo
03-03-2014, 10:00
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_25250713/bob-beauprez-expected-announce-gop-gubernatorial-run?source=most_viewed
Once again the GOP is going to loose an important election. it happened with Coors, maes, Beauprez, before.
Hopefully the fat cats, big money boys come to their senses, SOON. and tell bp to sit it out.
HoneyBadger
03-03-2014, 12:45
http://i.imgur.com/rTYvomKl.png?1
Maybe it is just me, but I like Tancredo's response to BB getting in the race. Is not the primary where we the people decide who we want to run against the Hickster? But, no, you rather have the big GOP machine decide who gets to run? Is that the democratic process or shoving the elite down our throats?
Not that I disagree with your assertion, just would like to see the discussion.
Great-Kazoo
03-03-2014, 13:16
Maybe it is just me, but I like Tancredo's response to BB getting in the race. Is not the primary where we the people decide who we want to run against the Hickster? But, no, you rather have the big GOP machine decide who gets to run? Is that the democratic process or shoving the elite down our throats?
Not that I disagree with your assertion, just would like to see the discussion.
It's B, Who the money machine "thinks" will be best, not WE the people. The election is the GOP's to loose, by bb getting in to the race, it's already finished, Providing the GOP backs him. Which to go back to square 1, is the only reason, someone who hasn't been visible in politics for some time, now decides to get in the running.
Zundfolge
03-03-2014, 14:14
I think the REAL reason that the GOP may be doomed here in Colorado is that the instant a less than ideal candidate shows up on the scene all the conservatives turn into whiny little bitches who take their ball and go home thus INSURING that we end up with the less than ideal candidate who nobody shows up to vote for.
http://www.mindparts.org/blog_images/pogo.jpg
Great-Kazoo
03-03-2014, 16:20
I think the REAL reason that the GOP may be doomed here in Colorado is that the instant a less than ideal candidate shows up on the scene all the conservatives turn into whiny little bitches who take their ball and go home thus INSURING that we end up with the less than ideal candidate who nobody shows up to vote for.
http://www.mindparts.org/blog_images/pogo.jpg
All i and other voters i know want is, someone who will keep their yap shut when it comes to abortion, same sex unions AND focus on JOBS, the Economy. Everything else, Stay out of the bed room, FOCUS on real issues, I don't give 2 shits who sleeps with who.
You're in to my wallet, education reform, and other things, tell me why you DESERVE my vote.
Holy fuck....another loser that can't realize he got beat. Let Brophy win this thing please!
Rucker61
03-03-2014, 18:43
All i and other voters i know want is, someone who will keep their yap shut when it comes to abortion, same sex unions AND focus on JOBS, the Economy. Everything else, Stay out of the bed room, FOCUS on real issues, I don't give 2 shits who sleeps with who.
You're in to my wallet, education reform, and other things, tell me why you DESERVE my vote.
Hear, hear! We have a decent chance of getting this type of candidate for governor; unfortunately, we have no chance for such on the national stage.
Swell. We can make sure he doesn't get out of the primaries.
All i and other voters i know want is, someone who will keep their yap shut when it comes to abortion, same sex unions AND focus on JOBS, the Economy. Everything else, Stay out of the bed room, FOCUS on real issues, I don't give 2 shits who sleeps with who.
You're in to my wallet, education reform, and other things, tell me why you DESERVE my vote.
+9000
wctriumph
03-03-2014, 21:44
I just don't see B. B. getting the votes in the primary, I feel that the republican/conservative base has become too educated recently to allow that, even if he does raise more cash. I am attending the republican caucus tomorrow night and see whats what. I've never been to one so it should be interesting.
TEA
III
All i and other voters i know want is, someone who will keep their yap shut when it comes to abortion, same sex unions AND focus on JOBS, the Economy. Everything else, Stay out of the bed room, FOCUS on real issues, I don't give 2 shits who sleeps with who.
You're in to my wallet, education reform, and other things, tell me why you DESERVE my vote.
BINGO!!!!
This country is so broken, focusing on getting the government out of our lives will take all of their time. These divisive social issues are a distraction.
All i and other voters i know want is, someone who will keep their yap shut when it comes to abortion, same sex unions AND focus on JOBS, the Economy. Everything else, Stay out of the bed room, FOCUS on real issues, I don't give 2 shits who sleeps with who.
You're in to my wallet, education reform, and other things, tell me why you DESERVE my vote.
Well said.
All i and other voters i know want is, someone who will keep their yap shut when it comes to abortion, same sex unions AND focus on JOBS, the Economy. Everything else, Stay out of the bed room, FOCUS on real issues, I don't give 2 shits who sleeps with who.
You're in to my wallet, education reform, and other things, tell me why you DESERVE my vote.
+1
sent from a soup can and some string..
All i and other voters i know want is, someone who will keep their yap shut when it comes to abortion, same sex unions AND focus on JOBS, the Economy.
-alas, the competition amongst GOP candidates relies on who can outdo the next and be more restrictive on social issues...
-alas, the competition amongst GOP candidates relies on who can outdo the next and be more restrictive on social issues...
It does. :(
Great-Kazoo
03-03-2014, 23:17
I just don't see B. B. getting the votes in the primary, I feel that the republican/conservative base has become too educated recently to allow that, even if he does raise more cash. I am attending the republican caucus tomorrow night and see whats what. I've never been to one so it should be interesting.
TEA
III
Maes didn't deserve to be the nominee. However the GOP pulled, party trumps person shit. NO, VOTERS TRUMP PARTY. Until the party comes to their senses the Left will propagate like rabbits.
[facepalm]you guys stressed me out. That many ++ / approvals , got me worried. let me get back to GD and put someone's panties on a knot.
Great Kazoo - when you're right, you're right :)
Bailey Guns
03-04-2014, 08:18
I think the REAL reason that the GOP may be doomed here in Colorado is that the instant a less than ideal candidate shows up on the scene all the conservatives turn into whiny little bitches who take their ball and go home thus INSURING that we end up with the less than ideal candidate who nobody shows up to vote for.
http://www.mindparts.org/blog_images/pogo.jpg
Yep. If you're waiting for the perfect candidate you'd better pack a lunch. And dinner, and breakfast the next day, and snacks....
Yep. If you're waiting for the perfect candidate you'd better pack a lunch. And dinner, and breakfast the next day, and snacks....
Yes, for instance Brophy seems pretty good outside of his support for illegal aliens.
Zundfolge
03-04-2014, 11:35
As an aside, what exactly is wrong with Beauprez (I don't know much about him so this is an honest question)?
ghettodub
03-04-2014, 12:02
Just gonna be another race between giant douche vs turd sandwich. That said, I like Brophy (and some of the other guys) on gun control, education and energy. But, and this is just my opinion as a Libertarian, until some of these GOP guys are willing to drop the social issues, such as abortion and gay marriage, they're gonna have a hard time getting elected now and in the future... Elections are decided largely by independents, and most won't vote for social issues.
Kazoo on the independent ticket. He needs a job anyways and they have comfy chairs...
Great-Kazoo
03-04-2014, 16:51
As an aside, what exactly is wrong with Beauprez (I don't know much about him so this is an honest question)?
He was selected by the big money GOP folks. his track record was not great, he was / is a flip flopper like ol bill clinton, He's an UNELECTABLE candidate , BUT someone somewhere thought he should throw his hat in the ring.
IF he was that good a potential candidate, where has he been since hick took office? Where was he when the energy / screw rural co , gun issues, amnesty / in state tuition for Illegals were being debated?
IF he felt his input / opinion was that valuable, OR carried any weight he would have show up at the statehouse , in / on media, hell anywhere. No show Bob.
FWIW: I called the CO. GOP office this morning. Informed the lady answering the call, I've been a registered R since 74, voted in every election etc. IF BB was nominated i would vote 3rd party before i'd put an X next to his name, on any ballot.
She was kind of taken back, but would pass on my "feelings" to someone up the food chain.
The GOP pulled the same shit when they nominated Pete Coors for office. [fail] They snubbed Bob Schafer from the weld cty area. Who said he would honor his term limits and not push for re-election. He was very accessible by anyone contacting him, Actually sent replies and not form letters.
Pete Coors, fuck him, you couldn't get an audience with PC if he hit you in a cross walk.
wctriumph
03-04-2014, 19:57
I just don't see B. B. getting the votes in the primary, I feel that the republican/conservative base has become too educated recently to allow that, even if he does raise more cash. I am attending the republican caucus tomorrow night and see whats what. I've never been to one so it should be interesting.
TEA
III
Well, crap. It is three minutes to 7:00 and I am still at work, I will not be at the caucus tonight. Well, break over, back to the warranty filing and then home to bed without dinner.
TEA
III
He was selected by the big money GOP folks. his track record was not great, he was / is a flip flopper like ol bill clinton, He's an UNELECTABLE candidate , BUT someone somewhere thought he should throw his hat in the ring.
Not saying that's what's going on here, but did you ever read "the blueprint" - it's likely that the democratic alliance has as much to say in some cases about who gets fed into the republican primaries as the actual GOP party does. That book was quite an eye opener.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Blueprint-Democrats-Republicans-Everywhere/dp/1936218003/
Great-Kazoo
03-04-2014, 21:54
Not saying that's what's going on here, but did you ever read "the blueprint" - it's likely that the democratic alliance has as much to say in some cases about who gets fed into the republican primaries as the actual GOP party does. That book was quite an eye opener.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Blueprint-Democrats-Republicans-Everywhere/dp/1936218003/
More than once.
Bailey Guns
03-04-2014, 22:18
So, we don't even have a republican candidate yet and we've already lost? That attitude will really be helpful in getting people out to vote. That's the spirit.
I'm beginning to wonder if the candidates are the problem...
Michael Brown (AM630) is going to have gubernatorial candidates on his show next week. He prefers we email our questions to the show.
Great-Kazoo
03-06-2014, 18:44
So, we don't even have a republican candidate yet and we've already lost? That attitude will really be helpful in getting people out to vote. That's the spirit.
I'm beginning to wonder if the candidates are the problem...
Based upon the GOP's past track record, once again. it's there for the GOP to loose. Yes it is the candidate[s] that are the issue.
Based upon the GOP's past track record, once again. it's there for the GOP to loose. Yes it is the candidate[s] that are the issue.
I think it tilts towards the candidates but I also think there are plenty of people who won't vote for the GOP candidate because he is for or against ________________________.
Using my previous example, I utterly disagree with Senator Brophy on illegal aliens; however I agree with Senator Brophy on many other topics. I would vote for Senator Brophy despite that one exception. Like Bailey Guns said, if you're waiting for the perfect candidate, you'll be waiting an eternity.
I do not want to vote for Beauprez, I think he will be a horrible candidate and only slightly better than the looper, if he wins the primary I cannot say if I will or won't though.
I guess my question is : Why the fuck does the GOP seem determined to shoot themselves in the foot by alienating not only the middle ground voters, but even their own supporters, by putting forth candidates that are absolutely unelectable (Maes, for instance). It seems like they go out of their way to find someone that is so extreme that they manage to drive voters that might otherwise be receptive to a conservative candidate away. I would love to see them put forth a strong fiscal conservative that could manage to make it through a news conference without stepping on their dick and alienating whole sectors of voters.
HoneyBadger
03-07-2014, 10:40
I would love to see them put forth a strong fiscal conservative that could manage to make it through a news conference without stepping on their dick and alienating whole sectors of voters.
+1
Mick-Boy
03-07-2014, 13:39
At this point I'm leaning towards wanting to take a can of gas to the whole thing. The GOP has lost touch and most of them are just (D) lite. Let it burn.
This is the prime reason we're in the mess we're in now... Look at what happened on the national level in 2008- two groups of D's, team Obama, team Hilary. Hilary got knocked out, so her team came over and voted for Obama. Meanwhile, in 2012, the GOP and other non-Dem voting people were all rallying for either Paul or Romney (for the most part), Paul got screwed over at the RNC (another conversation for another time), and so many didn't like Romney so they just wrote in something or voted for someone else... Bam! 4 more years of Obama. Now, I anticipate the same thing will happen here with the gubernatorial race. You'll have the idiots (er excuse me, Democrats) voting for Hick, then you'll have whoever gets the nod in the primaries to run against him. From the several groups supporting the other candidates you'll have many who will jump behind the R candidate, then you'll have the same kind of people that will be all butthurt over their candidate not making it, or the winning candidate isn't this or that, has these policies they don't like, has a funny looking face, doesn't like cats, whatever excuse people will make, and then we get 4 more years of Hickenpooper. Then, oh look, the dems are going to introduce a bill to register your guns, just like CT, and the governor will sign off on it because he won the election thanks to so many who stayed home, or protest voted, or said "what's the difference between the two anymore?" or did whatever to "punish" the GOP and Colorado becomes California Part II. Thanks. And I can't move to WY yet.
Zundfolge
03-07-2014, 15:47
Yep, Ronin is correct. We've made perfect the enemy of good.
mountainjenny
03-07-2014, 17:26
I agree, the Dems will rally behind whoever is the nominee. I'm sure the hard Hillary supporters were a little bummed their candidate didn't make it, but it didn't stop them from voting for Obama. Many of the Repubs start complaining and abandon ship and the Dem gets elected.
Zundfolge
03-07-2014, 17:54
The fundamental problem is that liberals/Democrats/progressives are all group-thinkers that make their voting decisions almost solely on "in-grouping" whereas conservatives/libertarians/Republicans tend to make their voting decisions on ideology, ideas and policies regardless of whether it wins them friends or makes them popular with the "cool kids".
So when the lefty gets a candidate they don't really agree with, they still vote for them because they want to be "in-grouped" with their fellow leftists (or more to the point they don't want to be "out-grouped" by them ... this is typical of r-selective creatures).
(to understand what I'm talking about here, I recommend you read this article (http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/touching-the-raw-amygdala-an-analysis-of-liberal-debate-tactics-preface/) ... and then the 7 segments that follow)
Irrespective of how people on firearms forums lean, the vast majority of the populace isn't basing their voting on what others do within their private lives. Until the GOP puppet-masters figure that out, they'll continue to take second place in a two party system.
The bulk of women want a bunch of old white guys (of which I am one of) telling them how to run their reproductive systems about as much as I want Eric Holder telling me what guns I can own.
Yes, for instance Brophy seems pretty good outside of his support for illegal aliens.
It must be that his farmer friends like cheap labor?
I must go ejumikate myself on this.
http://i.imgur.com/rTYvomKl.png?1
[LOL] can you shrink that down to smiley size? Love it man!
It must be that his farmer friends like cheap labor?
I must go ejumikate myself on this.
I don't know any farmers so I can't say for sure but I'd guess yes. I think it is likely that many (R) business owners employ illegals b/c they are cheap labor.
Rucker61
03-23-2014, 10:21
It must be that his farmer friends like cheap labor?
I must go ejumikate myself on this.
What other kind of labor in sufficient quantities is available?
What other kind of labor in sufficient quantities is available?
Yes, the labor pool and the wage pool, where do they intersect and for what kind of work, that topic deserves its own thread.
It must be that his farmer friends like cheap labor?
I must go ejumikate myself on this.
And how many people here think that produce/vegetables are too expensive? I hear people bitching about it all the time, prices would only go up without seasonal labor.. which by the way is also a different topic than simply supporting illegals.
sent from a soup can and some string..
I need to hit the [panic] Button!
Well Brophy is against amnesty in his own words, that's my main concern. He discussed his stance here:
https://www.ar-15.co/threads/126195-Greg-Brophy-position-on-in-state-tuition-for-illegal-aliens
OneGuy67
04-12-2014, 18:13
The results are back. Looks like Scott Gessler and Mike Knopp made it to the primary. The rest did not and would need to obtain signatures to get on the ballot. Tancredo is already there and Beaupreux is having his signatures validated right now.
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Great-Kazoo
04-12-2014, 21:12
And how many people here think that produce/vegetables are too expensive? I hear people bitching about it all the time, prices would only go up without seasonal labor.. which by the way is also a different topic than simply supporting illegals.
sent from a soup can and some string..
WAY OT the price of bell peppers (R,Y,O) are $175 per unless they do a 10 for $10. All of them are imported from mexico.
funkymonkey1111
04-13-2014, 07:36
The results are back. Looks like Scott Gessler and Mike Knopp made it to the primary. The rest did not and would need to obtain signatures to get on the ballot. Tancredo is already there and Beaupreux is having his signatures validated right now.
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looks like those "acts of love" in giving in-state tuition to criminals may have cost Brophy
OneGuy67
04-13-2014, 08:33
I thought Brophy would do better than what he did. Same for House. Surprisingly, Knopp did better than Gessler in votes.
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Bailey Guns
04-13-2014, 12:50
Mike Kopp is still my preferred candidate. Brophy's tuition for illegals can't have helped him with conservatives. Hope he learned a lesson. I'm anxious for June to arrive so we know who the candidate will be.
milwaukeeshaker
04-14-2014, 11:06
If Kopp will not bang the religious fanatic drum, he will be a fine candidate. If he starts with the old tired abortion baloney, the GOP is fukd.
So far.. no one is even close..
http://kdvr.com/2014/04/23/gov-hickenlooper-leads-all-four-republican-challengers-in-latest-poll/
The gay marriage and abortion/personhood amendments/laws that have been pushed by Colorado Reps have buried them.
Great-Kazoo
04-23-2014, 08:16
So far.. no one is even close..
http://kdvr.com/2014/04/23/gov-hickenlooper-leads-all-four-republican-challengers-in-latest-poll/
The gay marriage and abortion/personhood amendments/laws that have been pushed by Colorado Reps have buried them.
shit can blowprey and the odds go up. Biggest mistake is even allowing him on the ballot.
Gessler or Kopp
Just wish they were stronger on repealing gay "marriage."
[Coffee]
Gessler or Kopp
Just wish they were stronger on repealing gay "marriage."
[Coffee]
So you want them to shoot themselves in the foot yet again? Social issues are going to sink the Reps.. they are on the losing end as far as I'm concerned rightly so.. the gov can stay out of personal business.
Gessler or Kopp
Just wish they were stronger on repealing gay "marriage."
[Coffee]
Sarcasm I hope....
So you want them to shoot themselves in the foot yet again? Social issues are going to sink the Reps.. they are on the losing end as far as I'm concerned rightly so.. the gov can stay out of personal business.
http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/e7/9e/e79eb0752a4e2230fa77b0033f89edf2.jpg?itok=OqqUfQd1
You do realize Clint Eastwood is ok with gay marriage?
You do realize Clint Eastwood is ok with gay marriage?
I did not know that.
Messing with my day.
Fixed it.
Thanks.
Great-Kazoo
04-23-2014, 15:21
So you want them to shoot themselves in the foot yet again? Social issues are going to sink the Reps.. they are on the losing end as far as I'm concerned rightly so.. the gov can stay out of personal business.
Wholeheartedly Agree. SHUT UP, STAY OUT OF THE BEDROOM and do something besides waffle on the death penalty, THE ECONOMY, JOBS, TAXES
Rucker61
04-23-2014, 15:37
http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/e7/9e/e79eb0752a4e2230fa77b0033f89edf2.jpg?itok=OqqUfQd1
Yeah, them Buddhist monasteries are slap full of murderers and other evil-minded folks.
Firehaus
04-23-2014, 16:40
Most gay men fall under libertarian mind set, but are single issue voters. Remove the single issue and take the votes away from the dems.
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Wholeheartedly Agree. SHUT UP, STAY OUT OF THE BEDROOM and do something besides waffle on the death penalty, THE ECONOMY, JOBS, TAXES
I concur! Sounds like this bumper sticker needs to get more popular:
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