Either a fishy patent or there's something going on?

[Ronin13]

So a friend of mine just shared this on FB:
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It's in reference to patent #5676977- "Method of curing AIDS with tetrasilver tetroxide molecular crystal devices"
Source(s):
http://www.google.com/patents/US5676977
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5676977.PN.&OS=PN/5676977&RS=PN/5676977

So has anyone heard anything about this? Anyone know anything about this? Apparently it's the cure for AIDS patent, not sure what's going on, not jumping to any conclusions, not making any assumptions, just curious if someone here knows about this, could shed some light, perhaps? 15 min of Googling and all I can find is conspiracy nuts, Infowars like junk, and long yet very poorly done YouTube video. Of course my friend that posted the picture is a little more libertarian than most, and tends to be a bit tin foil hatty at times. I'm really scratching my head on this and thought hmm, this might make for interesting discussion, or a massive beat down by the logical ones on the first tin foil hat wearing conspiracy nut (getting my hopes up for nynco on that... [LOL])
Just kidding nynco...

[ChunkyMonkey]

I am gonna patent a cure to stupidity tonight.

[GilpinGuy]

I didn't do any Googling about this, but it seems to me that we would have heard about this remarkable development before it was shared on Facebook. The creator of the "cure" would have held a press conference and put out a bunch of press releases for the attention even before a patent was issued. He wouldn't have had to reveal what the formula was for the cure. The attention would have maybe given him some pull to get the patent issued quickly as well (if true, of course).

[Bailey Guns]

I am gonna patent a cure to stupidity tonight.

Already been done by several companies...Colt, Winchester, Remington, Federal, etc. Unfortunately, it's almost always illegal to administer to those who need it most.

[centrarchidae]

Sounds like the same colloidal silver scam that was all over the intardwebz back in the nineties.

You know what the word is, for alternative medicine that's supported by real science and real experiments which produced real data which was subjected to real rigorous statistical analysis?

"Medicine."

Sent from my spark- gap transmitter, with apologies for knocking Mandy Connell off the air.

[spqrzilla]

It is a requirement to obtain a patent that the patentee describe a "novel" invention. That is, a process, compound, method etc. that has not been described in published literature before.

It is not a requirement that the novel invention actually work.

[Great-Kazoo]

It is a requirement to obtain a patent that the patentee describe a "novel" invention. That is, a process, compound, method etc. that has not been described in published literature before.

It is not a requirement that the novel invention actually work.


https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608034697637989824&pid=15.1

[ChunkyMonkey]

I dont think people realize that despite the advances in medical science and techonology, human kind has cured only ONE viral disease (Hepatitis) and even that not effectively. Flu, Herpes etc.. are not cureable. We only treat the symptoms and the virus can go dormant for years before they are active again. For other viral infections like small pox, mump etc, we have vaccinations, but it is upto the individual's anti body to build defense against these infection. We are still decades away from finding cure to HIV virus. This is based on my personal research into pharmacy stocks 15 or so years ago.

We have biologists, doctors on the board.. maybe they can confirm.

[nynco]

I don't think that a "thing" like crystals will ever be the cure for AIDS/HIV. The most promising cure potential for AIDS comes from a mistake or odd happen chance where a man in Germany received a bone marrow transplant from a person with a rare gene strain that is basically immune to HIV. This ended up either curing his HIV or killing it off so much that it is undetectable.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/262882.php

[rockhound]

my wife works in the medical research department of cu denver headquartered out of the children's hospital. their are researchers that have made large leaps forward in a vaccine for HIV, they are not there yet, but is coming.

there was also a story recently about a chinese researcher that had grants from the NIH that was just arrested for falsifying his research.

[Mtn.man]

Hey, if it is on FB, It's gotta be true.

And Chlorine bleach will kill the aids virus, course it also kills you know.

[Sixgun]

I believe there is a cure for aids and cancer. There just in not any money in cures but treatments go on and on and on.

[Ronin13]

It is a requirement to obtain a patent that the patentee describe a "novel" invention. That is, a process, compound, method etc. that has not been described in published literature before.

It is not a requirement that the novel invention actually work.
Pretty much exactly what I was thinking...

[spqrzilla]

There is only one exception. Perpetual motion machines. Have to send a working model to the Patent office or rejected.

[MrPrena]

I am sure there are people who work at pharmaceuticals or biotech companies here, but to get an FDA approval with fast track usually takes about 10 years EVEN WITH REAL legit compound/molecules.


For an example,
Erbitux (Cetuximab) took about 18 freaking years to get FDA approval from first published by scientists.
Avastin (Bevcizumab) took about 19 freaking years to get FDA approval from first patent file.


I appreciate how LEGIT biotech and pharmaceutical companies tries to get into immunology and virology, but these bogus stuff does not help.
Do you guys remember when Picovir (Pleconaril) was rejected by FDA around 2002 for common cold treatment that sounded like a CURE?
http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/02/briefing/3847b1_01_viropharma.pdf
Any companies that uses word "cure" is most likely bogus.