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BuffCyclist
03-04-2014, 08:36
And I'm pretty sure it was also the premise of several arctic expedition movies too.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/03/04/giant-virus-resurrected-after-30000-years/


A mysterious giant virus buried for 30,000 years in Siberian permafrost has been resurrected.The virus only infects single-celled organisms and doesn't closely resemble any known pathogens that harm humans.
Even so, the new discovery raises the possibility that as the climate warms and exploration expands in long-untouched regions of Siberia, humans could release ancient or eradicated viruses. These could include Neanderthal viruses or even smallpox that have lain dormant in the ice for thousands of years.
"There is now a non-zero probability that the pathogenic microbes that bothered [ancient human populations] could be revived, and most likely infect us as well," study co-author Jean-Michel Claverie, a bioinformatics researcher at Aix-Marseille University in France, wrote in an email. "Those pathogens could be banal bacteria (curable with antibiotics) or resistant bacteria or nasty viruses. If they have been extinct for a long time, then our immune system (http://www.livescience.com/40712-immune-system-surprising-facts.html)http://global.fncstatic.com/static/v/all/img/external-link.png is no longer prepared to respond to them."
(A "non-zero" probability just means the chances of the event happening are not "impossible.")
Giant viruses
In recent years, Claverie and his colleagues have discovered a host of giant viruses, which are as big as bacteria but lack characteristic cellular machinery and metabolism of those microorganisms. At least one family of these viruses likely evolved from single-celled parasites after losing essential genes, although the origins of other giant viruses remain a mystery, Claverie said. [Tiny Grandeur: Stunning Images of the Very Small (http://www.livescience.com/16369-nikon-small-world-photos-2011.html)http://global.fncstatic.com/static/v/all/img/external-link.png]

'If viable virions are still there, this is a good recipe for disaster.'- Jean-Michel Claverie, a bioinformatics researcher at Aix-Marseille University in France

In the researchers' hunt for more unknown pathogens, they took a second look at permafrost samples collected from Kolyma in the Russian Far East in 2000. Because the permafrost was layered along steep cliffs, drillers could extract samples from 30,000 years ago by drilling horizontally into the ice, thereby avoiding contamination from newer samples.
The team then took samples of this permafrost and put them in contact with amoebas (blob-like single-celled organisms) in Petri dishes. The researchers then waited to see what happened.
Some of the amoebas burst open and died. When the scientists investigated further, they found a virus had killed the amoebas.
The ancient virus infects only amoebas, not humans or other animals. This pathogen belongs to a previously unknown family of viruses, now dubbed Pithovirus, which shares only a third of its genes with any known organisms and only 11 percent of its genes with other viruses. Though the new virus resembles the largest viruses ever found (http://www.livescience.com/38276-largest-viruses-ever-revealed-pandoravirus.html)http://global.fncstatic.com/static/v/all/img/external-link.png, Pandoraviruses, in shape, it is more closely related to classical viruses, which have an isocahedral shape (with 20 triangular-shaped faces), Claverie said.
Pathogens reawakened?
The findings raise the possibility that other long-dormant or eradicated viruses could be resurrected from the Arctic. As the climate warms and sea ice and permafrost melt, oil and mining companies are drilling many formerly off-limit areas in Russia, raising the possibility that ancient human viruses could be released.
For instance, Neanderthals and humans both lived in Siberia as recently as 28,000 years ago, and some of the diseases that plagued both species may still be around.
"If viable virions are still there, this is a good recipe for disaster," Claverie said. "Virions" is the term used for the virus particles when they are in their inert or dormant form.
But not everyone thinks these viruses spell potential doom.
"We are inundated by millions of viruses as we move through our everyday life," said Curtis Suttle, a marine virologist at the University of British Columbia in Canada, who was not involved in the study. "Every time we swim in the sea, we swallow about a billion viruses and inhale many thousands every day. It is true that viruses will be archived in permafrost and glacial ice, but the probability that viral pathogens of humans are abundant enough, and would circulate extensively enough to affect human health, stretches scientific rationality to the breaking point."
"I would be much more concerned about the hundreds of millions of people that will be displaced by rising sea levels than the risk of being exposed to pathogens from melting permafrost."
The findings were published March 3 in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
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tmleadr03
03-04-2014, 09:24
The world is ripe for a pandemic. With modern air travel it could be on every continent before we even know it exists.

SuperiorDG
03-04-2014, 09:26
http://dx3vu6ebyz7g2.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/che-guevara.jpg

Hound
03-04-2014, 10:20
Everybody got their GREEN ammo?...the color helps with expansion, ya know! Good, ready to go then!!!

RblDiver
03-04-2014, 10:30
Just play Plague Inc, goal is to kill off the world. My bacteria, parasites, viruses, etc. typically do so within less than 2 years (a little more for some).

BREATHER
03-04-2014, 12:44
What the hell is "non-zero probablity".... Sounds like a probabilty to me...

HoneyBadger
03-04-2014, 12:52
T-virus.

BuffCyclist
03-04-2014, 15:02
What the hell is "non-zero probablity".... Sounds like a probabilty to me...

Read the 11th line in what I quoted... [facepalm]

(A "non-zero" probability just means the chances of the event happening are not "impossible.")

Irving
03-04-2014, 15:09
Great, giant zombies is the last thing we need.

merl
03-04-2014, 15:17
Read the 11th line in what I quoted... [facepalm]

(A "non-zero" probability just means the chances of the event happening are not "impossible.")

But is the probability high enough that it is 50% possible before the sun becomes a red giant?

merl
03-04-2014, 15:18
Great, giant zombies is the last thing we need.

What is worse a zombie T-Rex or a zombie raptor?

cstone
03-04-2014, 15:40
[panic]

What is it we are panicking about today? I lost my score card.

GilpinGuy
03-04-2014, 23:15
Just another supposed "hazard" to drilling for oil/natural gas. Anything to promote the global warming/climate change myth. Give me a break.

Gman
03-05-2014, 07:31
We haven't warmed for over 17 years now...but let's keep banging that drum. It scares some people and promotes giving up freedom for "safety".

osok-308
03-05-2014, 07:38
T-virus.

Don't worry. I've played those resident evil games. I got your reference.

Bailey Guns
03-05-2014, 08:14
So, in the last 30k years, none of these viruses or bacteria have been uncovered during previous warming trends or due to other activity? Color me skeptical. I'd post more but I have this nasty cough that won't go away...

[Coffee]

Great-Kazoo
03-05-2014, 08:59
So, in the last 30k years, none of these viruses or bacteria have been uncovered during previous warming trends or due to other activity? Color me skeptical. I'd post more but I have this nasty cough that won't go away...

[Coffee]

It's not the uncovered virus i worry about. It's the current ones being studied in level 3 & 4 centers, the inability to prevent one from being stolen. Over prescribing / abuse of anti-biotic drugs and the disease they are suppose to fight, becoming resistant to them.

In reality the biggest threat to "Man" is LACK OF PROPER HAND WASHING, Or washing of hands at all. 1 vector becomes 1/2 dozen on the airport security bins within seconds, on & on.

Everytime you shop, be it grocery store of other big box area, airborne pathogens are running rampant. Shopper A is 1/2 way down the aisle and starts coughing, 2 min later you walk through that same area. A dry throat, or TB?

Schools are the petri dish of civilization, you folks with school age kids know what i'm talking about.

The movie Contagion was very close to a real life scenario.

MED
03-05-2014, 10:46
In other news, the sky is falling.

Great-Kazoo
03-05-2014, 10:53
In other news, the sky is falling.

[panic]

ZERO THEORY
03-05-2014, 12:21
False. THIS is how the zombie apocalypse starts:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yHr-1pvNvo


Soon as someone converts hallucinogenic drugs to airborne pathogens you can kiss your ass goodbye.

TFOGGER
03-05-2014, 12:27
Yeah, my biggest worry infection-wise is not some Cro-magnon superbug, because those would probably have wiped us out back then if they were that dangerous. It's the GM stuff being engineered in labs for "research" that some idiot will unleash through either negligence or malice. Read up on Ebola Reston (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reston_virus) if you want to know how close we've come already. Parvo virus in dogs is another example. It was being researched as a way to control the dingo populations in Australia when it escaped the lab and killed hundreds of thousands of dogs worldwide within a couple of years. Ebola in its native form is pretty nasty, but if it had a longer burn cycle(say 3-7 day incubation while contagious before symptoms manifest) it would be a civilization ender.

HoneyBadger
03-05-2014, 12:59
Soon as someone converts hallucinogenic drugs to airborne pathogens you can kiss your ass goodbye.

Batman Begins. Done.

ZERO THEORY
03-05-2014, 18:16
if it had a longer burn cycle(say 3-7 day incubation while contagious before symptoms manifest) it would be a civilization ender.

You'd better believe it. For any of you guys that didn't see it, you should really check out Contagion. That was a terrific movie, in my opinion.

Great-Kazoo
03-05-2014, 19:42
You'd better believe it. For any of you guys that didn't see it, you should really check out Contagion. That was a terrific movie, in my opinion.

The movie Contagion was very close to a real life scenario. little late;)

I also suggest folks read, The Hot Zone.. Forget the dustin hoffman movie, Based loosely on the book. Read the book.

Ronin13
03-05-2014, 21:35
You'd better believe it. For any of you guys that didn't see it, you should really check out Contagion. That was a terrific movie, in my opinion.
If by terrific you mean terrifying... I concur. I liked it, but damn, like Kazoo says, very close to RL... a little too close.