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Video Link: Facebook announced new restrictions on promoting guns on the social network, amid pressure from groups favoring gun control. (http://money.msn.com/money-video?videoid=ea57629f-22b6-0611-6351-0e38a1841b98&)
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Yeah...Facistbook, not surprised.
mtnrider
03-05-2014, 23:00
Facebook did not do anything new but said they would continue to enforce existing policies. This is getting way out of hand. They will shut down your site (after waring) if you are advertising illegal activity. If you are selling guns within the law you will still be fine.
Facebook did not do anything new but said they would continue to enforce existing policies. This is getting way out of hand. They will shut down your site (after waring) if you are advertising illegal activity. If you are selling guns within the law you will still be fine.
The parts in the announcement I do not like:
Restricted viewing to 18+. No harm in browsing when under 18.
Cannot advertise face to face transfers regardless of whether it is lawful or not.
But it is their game, they set the rules. They are still nowhere near as bad as G+
GilpinGuy
03-06-2014, 03:49
Facebook....[facepalm]I just never got it.
Never had an account on there, never will.
I heard Youtube Twitter and Facebook are going to merge.
It will be You Twitt Face
Teufelhund
03-06-2014, 09:07
The parts in the announcement I do not like:
Restricted viewing to 18+. No harm in browsing when under 18.
Cannot advertise face to face transfers regardless of whether it is lawful or not.
But it is their game, they set the rules. They are still nowhere near as bad as G+
Doesn't Armslist do the same thing?
Tis in their TOS that you have to be 18+ but you do not agree to the TOS until you create an account. You can browse without creating an account.
Same thing as posting a for sale ad in a storefront window with the contact information hidden. You have to enter the store and agree to their rules to get that contact info but if you just want to look...
FB has much greater control and can enforce such a rule, you've already agreed to their TOS which include giving them your birthdate.
Yeah like i was born in 1909...
Teufelhund
03-06-2014, 10:22
I don't have an account on armslist, so I have to agree to their TOS every time I browse the site; it comes up in a pop-up window.
rockhound
03-06-2014, 10:23
TOS which include giving them your birthdate.
or just making one up (birthdate) they have absolutley no way to control whether kids are viewing inappropriate material, cause teenagers would never lie about their age.
Teufelhund
03-06-2014, 10:30
The video in the OP said it was pushed on FB by a "group of mayors of several cities" (I think we all know who that is) and a "concerned mothers group" (pretty sure we know who that is too). I just don't understand what this bought them in terms of gun control. It's already illegal to buy a firearm if you're under 18. This is like "closing the gunshow loophole" that doesn't actually exist. I didn't even know there were firearms for sale on FB until this story came out. Now I'm going to go look at the ads, so in that respect it probably had the opposite effect of what they intended.
I don't have an account on armslist, so I have to agree to their TOS every time I browse the site; it comes up in a pop-up window.
With scripts disabled by default I do not see any popup, had no idea it was there. Since I can browse without agreeing they are not enforcing it (it'd be trivial to enforce)
ETA:
A text story from the AP actually names the groups, they are the expected ones. What this bought them was alot of free publicity and people thinking there is an issue. It also got FB to make a stand supporting UBCs (albeit indirectly).
The video in the OP said it was pushed on FB by a "group of mayors of several cities" (I think we all know who that is) and a "concerned mothers group" (pretty sure we know who that is too). I just don't understand what this bought them in terms of gun control. It's already illegal to buy a firearm if you're under 18. This is like "closing the gunshow loophole" that doesn't actually exist. I didn't even know there were firearms for sale on FB until this story came out. Now I'm going to go look at the ads, so in that respect it probably had the opposite effect of what they intended.
What does it buy them? How about indoctrination of an entire generation of new and soon to be new voters? Mass marketing at its finest.
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With scripts disabled by default I do not see any popup, had no idea it was there. Since I can browse without agreeing they are not enforcing it (it'd be trivial to enforce)
If you are browsing AL, you agreed to it at one point, and you have a cookie on your computer. If you had not agreed, the site will not work. I won't agree to it, so I can only see a little of any referenced listing.
As for Facebook, I don't like it, but for Carbon Arms, it has been beneficial. It is entirely for the company and there is no personal stuff and it is linked to the Twitter account, so same same.
BlasterBob
03-06-2014, 11:13
Yeah like i was born in 1909...
Wow, here I thought that I was OLD. [ROFL1]
Teufelhund
03-06-2014, 11:41
NRA posted (on Facebook, naturally) that this is a win for gun owners because these anti-freedom groups wanted FB to stop allowing it completely. FB's response was that they don't actually sell or trade anything. Here's the story on Breitbart:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/03/05/NRA-Beats-Bloomberg-Moms-Demand-Action-In-Facebook-Battle
If you are browsing AL, you agreed to it at one point, and you have a cookie on your computer. If you had not agreed, the site will not work. I won't agree to it, so I can only see a little of any referenced listing.
Nope, scripts disabled it works fine. Enable scripts and get the popup which if I decline redirects me to google. Disabling scripts again and it works again.
No cookies in the standard places. Perhaps they do whitelisting by IP address, I am on a dynamic address.
Wow, here I thought that I was OLD. [ROFL1]
I thought it was good, you'd think they'd ? the date.
OLD OLD OLD guy posting on FB
spqrzilla
03-06-2014, 16:08
Moms Demand Action (which still sounds like a porn film title) is claiming this as a huge victory but amusingly Brady Campaign is - more correctly - saying that Moms got rolled by Facebook and that they got virtually nothing. Its pretty hilarious to see them spend time throwing rocks at each other.
Moms Demand Action (which still sounds like a porn film title)
:D
USMC_5-Echo
03-06-2014, 23:29
Moms Demand Action (which still sounds like a porn film title)
Would the sequel be called "Moms Demand More Action"?
Great-Kazoo
03-06-2014, 23:32
Would the sequel be called "Moms Demand More Action"?
Moms have bad headache
UrbanWolf
03-07-2014, 00:02
Moms Demand Action (which still sounds like a porn film title) is claiming this as a huge victory but amusingly Brady Campaign is - more correctly - saying that Moms got rolled by Facebook and that they got virtually nothing. Its pretty hilarious to see them spend time throwing rocks at each other.
Moms have been doing that for over a year now. Their goal was to ban all pages that is gun themed, they failed, but facebook did reannounce their policy on guns, which is no sales on their side. They won't do anything about someone selling their gun privately.
This is as dumb as whatapp acquisition.
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