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Tor Larson
04-26-2009, 08:40
WTH? It is everywhere! Think it is the new religion of the liberals. Since they don't believe in God they have gone on to the saving the earth- like it needs saving. Brainwashing the kids- all over Nickelodeon, schools,etc. I go into stores- it's there. Nothing wrong with making a buck but you can't get away from it! Someone is making a hell of a lot of money on something that wasn't broken in the first place.

Tor

Mtn.man
04-26-2009, 08:43
Al Gore

Jumpstart
04-26-2009, 08:49
Glenn Beck has had some great Earth Day quotes from the 70's from the Earth Day founders. A lot of apocolyptic insaneness and fear mongering. To hear it, makes me chuckle. Same crap coming back around again. To me, it's another way to generate revenue and redistribute the wealth. I contribute to conservation by not buying a bunch of crap, or using resources unnecessarily.

esaabye
04-26-2009, 09:17
You should see the propaganda they send home with my elementary age children. I have had to sit down with them and explain that people are not evil just because they want to feed and house themselves.

This pendulum will swing back but it will take some time and it will hurt during the process.

Mtn.man
04-26-2009, 10:45
libs are so stupid ,,, and as stated here they are brainwashing your kids....

when mine were little they came home crying and mad cause they wanted to save all the animals.. Peta had been to their class and handed out propoganda Bull Shit...

HUH we lived on a farm in a farming community. I headed for school fortunately wasn't the only parent there. The principal took down all the posters and crap and then appoligized.. course now days swat would have been called we would all be in Gitmo as terrorists.

Back on subject,, this Green shit is about the same..

Chief_of_Scouts
04-26-2009, 12:12
The "green" movement has some good reasons behind it. It makes sense to recycle, cut down pollution and conserve our resources. I don't drink the "everything green" koolaid, but I certainly see the benefit of being a little more responsible.

The fact is, humans destruct as they construct. I personally don't want to live in a world that is void of trees, smog so bad I can't see the mountains right next to me and everywhere I look, trash piled so high that every neighborhood looks like a dump. I have lived in enough third-world countries to know that it is a horrible way to live.

You are right that some groups take the green agenda a little too far. However, to be counter-green is as smart as spending billions in taxpayers dollars in a so-called "stimulus" plan and burdening our children and their descendants with the fallout.

GunTroll
04-26-2009, 13:26
Its my got given right to deplete "my" natural resources as necessary. Use em' or lose em'. The world will end one way or another with or without our help. Keeping "mother nature" happy won't save your soul when your time is up.

Green crap is usualy a sign of bad eating habits

Ridge
04-26-2009, 14:48
The Rampart cleanup yesterday was attributed to Earth Day, despiste the total lack of any hippy presence...[Bang]

robsterclaw
04-26-2009, 15:35
Some companies are using the hippie shit to their advantage. Pepsi has wanted to reduce the amount of plastic in the Aquafina bottles. Since they don't need to be thick to hold in any carbonation, they can be thinner.

People didn't like it though. It didn't feel right to them. Now with the hippie talk, it's in vogue to be green so now they have made the bottles thinner. Saves a lot of plastic but also saves dollars.

I'd drive a Prius to save money though.

GunTroll
04-26-2009, 16:02
I'd drive a Prius to save money though.


[ROFL2]Get a motorcycle instead. Don't be a hippie!

Mtn.man
04-26-2009, 16:16
My Hawg gets 54MPH and looks cool doing it.

ChunkyMonkey
04-26-2009, 16:30
I'd drive a Prius to save money though.

How? [Beer]

Chief_of_Scouts
04-26-2009, 17:59
Its my got given right to deplete "my" natural resources as necessary.

You're right, it is your "right".

You will never hear me supporting laws to force "green" issues. I am all about less government. I think it is a personal choice. Some issues I support, some I don't.

If someone wants to cut down all of trees on their property, fill their yard with trash and sit in their closed-up garage while letting the engine run on their car...well, more power to them. (I just hope you aren't my next door neighbor) [Neene3]

robsterclaw
04-26-2009, 22:40
How? [Beer]

On May 16th Pepsi is taking away the company vehicles and making us drive our own cars. That's over 200 miles a week, and my second job, delivering pizzas puts on another 300+ miles a week. 2000 miles a month in my current cars is 100 gallons of gas. In a Prius it would be less then 40 gallons.

I saw a Prius for sale for $9,000 this week. It's tempting.

robsterclaw
04-26-2009, 22:44
[ROFL2]Get a motorcycle instead. Don't be a hippie!

LOL I can't deliver pizzas on a motorcycle, and I can't put all my Pepsi stuff on a cycle.

ChunkyMonkey
04-26-2009, 23:11
On May 16th Pepsi is taking away the company vehicles and making us drive our own cars. That's over 200 miles a week, and my second job, delivering pizzas puts on another 300+ miles a week. 2000 miles a month in my current cars is 100 gallons of gas. In a Prius it would be less then 40 gallons.

I saw a Prius for sale for $9,000 this week. It's tempting.

I feel your pain. I drive up to 200 miles a day, but I cannot seem to get used to with anything but V8s. Both my winter and summer vehicles are V8 all wheel drive.

I drove a prius when it first came out. I felt I was going reverse on WOT.

Is it worthed to purchase another car for $120 in gas saving/month? That's merely $1440 a year AND considering how fast car's value depreciate, you might never caught up even with the $9000 prius. Economy sucks, sorry about loosing your work car.

bjl913
04-27-2009, 07:24
So I guess you guys dont want to carpool to yoga with me and then to the all organic sunflower market for some tofu burgers that we will cook using solar power?? [Coffee]

wow, that sounded dumber than i thought it would!

too bad these people dont realize how retarded they look... I mean sure, im all for recycling, and not pouring my used oil in the sewers... but come on people!

GunTroll
04-27-2009, 07:29
LOL I can't deliver pizzas on a motorcycle, and I can't put all my Pepsi stuff on a cycle.

Understood

Marlin
04-27-2009, 07:34
Al Gore, the second comming of Joseph Goebbels..... Except not as articulate...

ryanek9freak
04-27-2009, 11:21
I would have cut down the Redwood, and made sure it landed right on top of his solar panels. People have no balls these days.

68Charger
04-27-2009, 11:43
I'd drive a Prius to save money though.


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2007/06/04/EDGI7Q63U01.DTL

there's "controversy" over this article... and it's been debated- but they make good points...

I commute on a motorcycle (I used to have a Harley, now I have 4 kids and a Honda with 46,000 miles on it), and on bad weather days- a $500 Dodge Neon that gets 36-38mpg, and has 176,000 miles on it now..

from an economic standpoint, I'm WAAAAAAAAY ahead of even a used Prius... after spending $9,000 on a used Prius, and only getting 50mpg (they originally advertised 61 mpg, but later were found to cheat on the EPA test by draining the batteries during the test- which could not be sustained in the real world)

even after spending more on maintenance (because it's a high mileage vehicle.. let's say $2500 total- I can rebuild the engine for less than that- parts are cheap for this car... so I'm now $6,500 ahead of the Prius owner, which would buy 3250 gallons of fuel at $2/gal, enough to go 117,000 miles at 36mpg...

this is over-simplified, but you get the idea... and the Prius is going to need a battery pack & engine when they wear out, at a MUCH higher cost than my lowly little Neon...

I won't get cheers when I arrive at the Academy awards without a Prius, but I don't really care what those people think, anyway.. [Flower]


I've yet to see any hybrid that really saves money in the final analysis... so drive one for a political statement, but you won't save money over a used car...

a pure electric car (for a commuter) is another matter.... but they're not mass produced for use off a golf course... any the range is too short to deliver pizzas for an entire shift...

robsterclaw
04-27-2009, 17:01
I feel your pain. I drive up to 200 miles a day, but I cannot seem to get used to with anything but V8s. Both my winter and summer vehicles are V8 all wheel drive.

I drove a prius when it first came out. I felt I was going reverse on WOT.

Is it worthed to purchase another car for $120 in gas saving/month? That's merely $1440 a year AND considering how fast car's value depreciate, you might never caught up even with the $9000 prius. Economy sucks, sorry about loosing your work car.

It's a bit of a bummer losing the company vehicle, but the good thing about it is they will pay 50.5 cents per mile. That's why I was considering a Prius. The car payment, insurance, gas and maintenance would be covered, with about 11 cents per mile "profit". My new Mustang with all the same, would give me 3 cents per mile profit. As much as I'd love to drive the Mustang everyday, I'd hate to put all that mileage on it.

All my research and stuff may be for nothing. PepsiCo just made an offer to buy all the outstanding PBG stock. So as of now everything seems to be on hold. PepsiCo may prefer to have us drive company vehicles instead of paying mileage. I'm not looking forward to another take over of the company. Just went through all that in December.

ChunkyMonkey
04-27-2009, 17:38
68 charger.. you work on engines? I need you to rebuild a two stroker for this... [Tooth][Tooth] 120 miles per gallon down hill baby!

http://www.frontierdynamics.com/SPO/IMG_1260.JPG

GunTroll
04-27-2009, 17:58
Thats bad ass! Street legal?

ChunkyMonkey
04-27-2009, 18:20
haha.. street legal in the streets of Bangkok maybe.

I am trying to put scooter engine in it... maybe a mount for Saw on top. [ROFL1]

68Charger
04-28-2009, 10:06
may have some difficulty finding parts on this continent...

a scooter engine may work for a retrofit... don't think I'd go for a snowmobile engine, that thing does not look like it'd be stable at speed... [Help]

there are also 2-stroke golf carts, may be another source?

just get a donkey and a harness.... you could go into the taxi business downtown.. [ROFL1]


how does one even wind up with something like that?

jackmode9316
04-28-2009, 10:19
Im with you 68 charger. I laugh at alot of these new "gas savers"
I drive a 92 honda civic. It cost me about 1200 bucks, and still gets awesome gas milage. (35-40+) Not to mention the repair costs are close to nothing, and easy to DIY to boot.

ChunkyMonkey
04-28-2009, 14:03
that thing does not look like it'd be stable at speed... [Help]

Allow me to educate you on this topic...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bUWO5vx8oM&feature=related

[ROFL1][ROFL2]

68Charger
04-28-2009, 14:28
I seem to recall there was a similar scene in one of the "Indiana Jones" movies.. involving a small boy with boxes tied to his shoes (so he could reach the pedals)

Irving
04-28-2009, 14:43
Anybody ever seen Ong Bak, Thai Warrior? If you haven't you should, because it's the best martial arts movie ever.

Marlin
04-28-2009, 15:08
68 charger.. you work on engines? I need you to rebuild a two stroker for this... [Tooth][Tooth] 120 miles per gallon down hill baby!

http://www.frontierdynamics.com/SPO/IMG_1260.JPG

I just have two questions;

1) how does one steer it?

2)Does it come with heat?

jackmode9316
04-28-2009, 15:51
Anybody ever seen Ong Bak, Thai Warrior? If you haven't you should, because it's the best martial arts movie ever.
Agreed. I especially like when he starts breaking arms left and right. I wonder if the sequel is any good.

Irving
04-28-2009, 16:06
Agreed. I especially like when he starts breaking arms left and right. I wonder if the sequel is any good.

No, you're thinking of the Protector. That one also had Tony Ja, and he goes to Australia to find his elephants. I didn't like that movie nearly as much because he goes around fighting normal dudes that can't fight, as opposed to in Ong Bak he's fighting in a club.

Or are you talking about the scene toward the end in the cave where he breaks a few arms?

GunTroll
04-28-2009, 16:09
I just have two questions;

1) how does one steer it?

2)Does it come with heat?

There looks to be a handle bar. I'm wondering where the driver seat is?
AC only!

ChunkyMonkey
04-28-2009, 17:50
I just have two questions;

1) how does one steer it?

2)Does it come with heat?

1. Steering is on an auto pilot as long as you stay on the course of gravity down the hill.

2. Yes, it comes w/ heated seat as the missing floor board allows the mufflers to warm up your bunbun
[ROFL1]