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Gman
03-21-2014, 22:40
Bullied boy allegedly banned from bringing 'My Little Pony' backpack to school (http://www.today.com/moms/bullied-boy-allegedly-banned-bringing-my-little-pony-backpack-school-2D79406114)
42499


Outraged parents say their son's elementary school told their 9-year-old to leave his "My Little Pony" backpack at home after the boy complained that he was bullied for bringing it to school.

Noreen Bruce said she became alarmed earlier this month when her son, Grayson, refused to get out of the car to go to school. “Everybody hates me," he said. "I don’t feel I belong here.” Shaken, she asked him why.

His classmates at Candler Elementary School in Candler, N.C., were bullying him because of the My Little Pony backpack he’d been using for about a week, he told her.

Noreen and her husband, Josh, both of whom work at a local restaurant, were shocked by the response.

Researchers who study bullying had much the same reaction.

If the school actually did tell the boy to leave his backpack at home to avoid bullying, “That’s placing the blame on the kid,” said Sandra Graham, a professor of education at University of California, Los Angeles, who studies the long-term effects of bullying. “The principal is basically saying you brought this on yourself, so deal with it — as opposed to putting the responsibility back on the perpetrators.”

A better response, she said, would be to use the incident as a teachable moment. It’s not only the bullies who are a concern; it’s also the student bystanders and adults who refuse to intervene. The response should involve the whole school community, she said, meeting and planning to “change the climate and culture in the school.”
Personally, I think it's his choice...but don't then whine about the consequences. This kid needs to learn about the real world at some point. The real world doesn't give a damn about your delicate sensibilities or your "self-esteem".

blacklabel
03-21-2014, 22:42
I concur. The other brats need to learn to live and let live and this kid needs to learn to deal with how rough society can be. Have a long hard conversation with your 9 year old boy before you send him to school with a My Little Pony backpack as well.

Gman
03-21-2014, 22:46
When I was a kid, a boy showing up with a Barbie backpack would have gotten you more than some comments you didn't like.

Life's tough. Get a helmet.

ray1970
03-21-2014, 22:55
Ridge?

Great-Kazoo
03-21-2014, 23:01
I concur. The other brats need to learn to live and let live and this kid needs to learn to deal with how rough society can be. Have a long hard conversation with your 9 year old boy before you send him to AR-15 .CO with a My Little Pony backpack as well.

Squeeze
03-21-2014, 23:42
RIDGE TO THE RESCUE!!!! [ROFL2]

MrPrena
03-22-2014, 00:40
K to 12 can be rough.
Business world is 1000000000000000000x rougher.

I got bullied at school. I bullied back.
I got bullied at work by my boss. I bulled back, and had a 10x rougher career! [ROFL1]

WETWRKS
03-22-2014, 00:55
The article I read stated they attacked him physically...but following complaints from the parents the school refused to do anything about it...so much for their no tollerence policy.

Sharpienads
03-22-2014, 05:55
I wonder, was it a real MLP backpack, or was it just a Class II Look Alike MLP Backpack?

Like others have said, the "bullies" are responsible for their actions. But ffs, if your little boy has a girls backpack he's gonna get made fun of or worse.

AR_ART
03-22-2014, 06:28
I agree with these comments… especially with the ones regarding the boy learning to deal with "bullies" or learning how to deal with the "consequences" of his actions if they aren't popular. You either become a sheep or stand up for what you believe in. And as someone stated the real grown-up world is definitely not kind, and he'll have to learn how to deal with that..

Bailey Guns
03-22-2014, 06:31
Professor Graham got it partially right...it IS a teachable moment. On a lot of levels.

hghclsswhitetrsh
03-22-2014, 07:04
I know I sound like a broken record but I wouldn't condone my child picking on a kid like this. However as parents wtf do to expect to happen to your kid for wearing this? Sometimes parents have to protect their kids from themselves. All that being said, if you're a grown ass man you are open game. If you don't like it too fucking bad.


That is all.

OtterbatHellcat
03-22-2014, 09:19
Bullies suck, if I found out my kid was picking on weaker kids, he would be disciplined. I think in this case, it was a poor parenting choice in the first place.

Sometimes parents have to protect their kids from themselves.

BlasterBob
03-22-2014, 10:03
This is about like walking through the roughest part of a city flashing a huge wad of greenbacks. The bad guys are not allowed to rob you but it would sure appear that you are just asking to be robbed.[grab]

hatidua
03-22-2014, 11:09
42499

Outraged parents say their son's elementary school told their 9-year-old to leave his "My Little Pony" backpack at home after the boy complained that he was bullied for bringing it to school.


Does an elementary school trying to mitigate the bullying by suggesting leaving the pony-bag at home really rise to the level necessary for 'outrage'?

This reminds me of an incident several years ago here in Boulder. The North Boulder Park Criterium (bike race) happens across the street from my house and I tend to step outside to watch the 'pro' division as these guys attain incredible speed on their featherweight bicycles, -it's really quite amazing. Anyhow, some kid that appeared to be about 6-7 years old starts wandering across one of the corners while a pack of 40 elite-level cyclists that covers both lanes of the street are about 150 yards away and approaching very fast. A Boulder cop yelled for the kid to get out of the street - there wasn't time to go over and lead him off the street in-person. As a result, the father of this kid comes over and berates the cop for close to five minutes about "you don't dare tell my kid what to do!" and so forth. The tirade unleashed by the parent made me wish the cop would have simply let nature take it's course between bike/kid.

buffalobo
03-22-2014, 11:23
Lame ass reply deleted.

Lobbed from my electronic ball and chain.

sniper7
03-22-2014, 15:44
Sorry, what do you expect. I would have made fun of a kid with a my little pony backpack. I would have been labeled a bully by the kid but I would have labeled him a douche or worse. Make choices, live them them. Welcome to life.

OtterbatHellcat
03-22-2014, 15:51
There is always somebody stronger and faster, smarter than you are....messing with someone because they are weaker and slower, and less intelligent....makes you an asshole.

"Welcome to life" is very accurate.

BlasterBob
03-22-2014, 17:57
There is always somebody stronger and faster, smarter than you are....messing with someone because they are weaker and slower, and less intelligent....makes you an asshole.

"Welcome to life" is very accurate.

[Score]

cstone
03-22-2014, 18:13
Boy named Sue.

what does not kill me makes me stronger.

sniper7
03-22-2014, 18:23
Even the girls would make fun of this kid. You can't expect an entire school to be told not to make fun of the kid, are you supposed to make an announcement? Bring each kid in individually? Have each teacher tell their class not to make fun of the kid? Do something like that and this kid is going to catch all kinds of flak or get the shit kicked out of him.

I agree with the administrator telling the kid to leave the backpack home, you can't force every kid in the school to not be a "bully" and that term gets tossed around way to easy any more. Just about the same as we have "gun nut" or "right winged terrorist" or "assault weapon".

The kid should be happy he has the ability to express his liking of ponies at all. Schools could be going to uniforms and solve a lot of these problems.

Ah Pook
03-22-2014, 18:29
Does an elementary school trying to mitigate the bullying by suggesting leaving the pony-bag at home really rise to the level necessary for 'outrage'?
Didn't you get the memo? We all have to be outraged by the smallest bit of minutia. Doesn't matter if it's our business or not. Doesn't this outrage you? I am outraged that your outrage is weak.

http://forum.theplayforge.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=707

cstone
03-22-2014, 18:33
I personally would like to see public schools move to uniforms and single sex education. Male and Female students do better without the distractions and uniforms are cheaper for parents.

Everything else about schools are institutional, why not put the little ones in orange jump suits and get it over with. The whole idea of public schools makes me think about this:


http://youtu.be/R706isyDrqI

mcjhr
03-22-2014, 19:00
Stupid parents letting there son go to school thinking social norm will cater for him. Leave your pony backpack at home, use it on the weekends. Parents need to get him a plain ol jansport. End of story.

Ridge
03-22-2014, 19:58
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9nocjmBwgI

Gman
03-22-2014, 21:00
...and the message from Glenn Beck.."We are not afficionados on My Little Pony." [Coffee]

The irony of their phony 'solidarity' was evident, as well as their lack of knowledge on the subject.

..but the true message was that Beck doesn't want society or the school to fight his battles for him. You can have the courage to be an individual, but you have to be willing to suck it up when you make those decisions.

That's not what's happening in this case.

clublights
03-23-2014, 00:38
If he was Gay ... and wanted to dress in drag... the other students would be forced to accept him..
If he was Mexican and wanted to dress in traditional Mexican garb.. the other students would be forced to accept him ..
If he was a Muslim and wore the head gear .. or a female and wore the burka( well I doubt a girl would wear a burka to school .. unlikely the parents that dressed her in that way would let her go to school .. but not the point) the other students would be forced to accept him/her....


But a straight ( well at his age I doubt he knows really but he's not claiming gay so I'll assume straight) white male...

He better be the one changing.

Just sayin.......


EDIT:
Just to add...

I think if he wants to wear the backpack he has to deal with the other kids making fun of him. being an individual is tougher and tougher for kids these days but sucking it up and dealing with it makes you a better person.

BPTactical
03-23-2014, 08:21
If he was Gay ... and wanted to dress in drag... the other students would be forced to accept him..
If he was Mexican and wanted to dress in traditional Mexican garb.. the other students would be forced to accept him ..
If he was a Muslim and wore the head gear .. or a female and wore the burka( well I doubt a girl would wear a burka to school .. unlikely the parents that dressed her in that way would let her go to school .. but not the point) the other students would be forced to accept him/her....


But a straight ( well at his age I doubt he knows really but he's not claiming gay so I'll assume straight) white male...

He better be the one changing.

Just sayin.......


Incredibly well said.

Ronin13
03-23-2014, 09:37
Incredibly well said.

I agree. Kids need to learn how to roll with the punches... But on the other side blaming the victim never works. My question is why on earth is the school telling the kid not to wear the backpack and he won't be bullied instead of the parents. Parents should raise kids, not schools.

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TFOGGER
03-23-2014, 09:58
Bullies thrive in the current school environment because we punish those that stand against them. This kid is yet another example: Had he struck out against his tormentors, he'd have been suspended or expelled. By the course of action the school officials have chosen to pursue, they are cultivating the next generation of violent psychopaths that bottle up their rage until they explode in a spectacular display of murder and mayhem. Is it too much of a stretch to theorize that perhaps the puppet masters have exactly this end in mind to advance their agenda?

stenz
03-23-2014, 10:04
Some of you guys are harsh. This boy is 9 years old...

Gman
03-23-2014, 10:47
Some of you guys are harsh. This boy is 9 years old...
The parents are acting like they're 9 years old. It's the fault of the parents for not educating their child.

...but it takes a village...

Bailey Guns
03-23-2014, 10:59
Boy needs some Major Payne parenting time:


http://youtu.be/ZSGHLXWNpvQ

hatidua
03-23-2014, 11:13
Doesn't this outrage you? I am outraged that your outrage is weak.

Alas, it's the weekend and I'm only capable of outrage on weekdays now.....fiscal cutbacks & all.

OtterbatHellcat
03-23-2014, 11:30
Rage Sequester?

Dammit.

ANADRILL
03-23-2014, 13:57
The dad needs to put a belt on that kids ass and teach him right.

Ridge
03-23-2014, 14:03
The dad needs to put a belt on that kids ass and teach him right.

Shouldn't you be bumping your other thread?

Ah Pook
03-23-2014, 14:27
Shouldn't you be bumping your other thread?
+1

Beat the child for showing some individuality? Riiight. http://lunaticoutpost.com/smilies/dumbass.gif

Add another one to the ignore list.

ANADRILL
03-23-2014, 14:59
+1

Beat the child for showing some individuality? Riiight. http://lunaticoutpost.com/smilies/dumbass.gif

Add another one to the ignore list.

Maybe that's what's wrong with kids today, people are holding back the lash. Sure has worked well for the past 20 years hasn't it?

Ridge
03-23-2014, 15:02
Maybe that's what's wrong with kids today, people are holding back the lash. Sure has worked well for the past 20 years hasn't it?

No, what's wrong with kids today is people forcing their ideals onto them, not allowing people to be who they want to be. People like you, who feel that the proper response for a 9 year old kid enjoying a television show is to whip them with a belt.

ANADRILL
03-23-2014, 15:02
Shouldn't you be bumping your other thread?
Yeah I had better, because people like you won't bother doing a damn thing...

Ridge
03-23-2014, 15:03
Yeah I had better, because people like you won't bother doing a damn thing...

And what are you doing? Do you really think he gives a flying fuck about the opinion of someone 1500 miles away, who would never have visited his business beforehand?

Dave
03-23-2014, 15:03
I always thought physical punishment is something you use for times like the kid fucked up so badly the cops got involved, like theft, assault, drugs, etc....... As someone who was physically bullied because I read comics and aced my tests in school I guess my dad should have used the belt to get me to stop reading X-men?

sniper7
03-23-2014, 15:06
I always thought physical punishment is something you use for times like the kid fucked up so badly the cops got involved, like theft, assault, drugs, etc....... As someone who was physically bullied because I read comics and aced my tests in school I guess my dad should have used the belt to get me to stop reading X-men?

I think your dad was scared of your wolverine claws you made from his hunting knives, but that is just word on the street

hurley842002
03-23-2014, 15:09
Maybe that's what's wrong with kids today, people are holding back the lash. Sure has worked well for the past 20 years hasn't it?

Really man? Listen to yourself!

I was going to respond to your first post, but said heck with it. I can't help but respond to this one.

I got my ass whipped when when I did something bad (which was only a couple times because I learned quickly). How about simply explaining to the child "my little pony is for little girls, I will not buy that for you", not whipping the kids ass for trying to be like all the other weirdos.

Do you also get in physical altercations when people flip you off?

roberth
03-23-2014, 15:58
Really man? Listen to yourself!

I was going to respond to your first post, but said heck with it. I can't help but respond to this one.

I got my ass whipped when when I did something bad (which was only a couple times because I learned quickly). How about simply explaining to the child "my little pony is for little girls, I will not buy that for you", not whipping the kids ass for trying to be like all the other weirdos.

Do you also get in physical altercations when people flip you off?

Thank you. That is one of the roles of parents, to explain stuff to junior.

tmleadr03
03-23-2014, 17:14
Maybe that's what's wrong with kids today, people are holding back the lash. Sure has worked well for the past 20 years hasn't it?

You have some serious anger issues. Not to mention the desire to beat a nine year old for enjoying a TV show. Let me guess, you would happily hold him for the kids who are bulling him to teach him a lesson. Seriously you are not the image I want accociated with my like of firearms.

stenz
03-23-2014, 17:21
Any parent that allows their child to participate in bullying is a sack of shit.

tmleadr03
03-23-2014, 17:24
Thank you. That is one of the roles of parents, to explain stuff to junior.

And this is where you are wrong. We as humans can find things we like in all forms. Just because it is a cartoon about ponies does not mean it is just for girls. There are plenty of good themes in that show that both boys and girls would be wise to learn from.

I suppose you consider me a bad parent since this last Halloween I let my daughter dress up as Captain America? I suppose I should have explained to her that she is not allowed to like things that boys like and she should be a princess or a fairy or something in pink but god forbid she want to dress like the Cap.

Or maybe, just maybe I should really be proud of her for picking out the one super hero who actually did what super heros are supposed to do. You see, she loved watching The Avengers Earths Mightiest Heros the cartoon. And from watching that they were all going around kicking bad guys asses, but the Cap was actually going out of his way to protect those weaker then him. Which from what I hear from the teachers at school my daughter does as well. In Kindergarten.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

hatidua
03-23-2014, 17:29
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/hatidua/20010116_Popcorn_zps09383e1d.jpg

hurley842002
03-23-2014, 17:34
And this is where you are wrong. We as humans can find things we like in all forms. Just because it is a cartoon about ponies does not mean it is just for girls. There are plenty of good themes in that show that both boys and girls would be wise to learn from.

I suppose you consider me a bad parent since this last Halloween I let my daughter dress up as Captain America? I suppose I should have explained to her that she is not allowed to like things that boys like and she should be a princess or a fairy or something in pink but god forbid she want to dress like the Cap.

Or maybe, just maybe I should really be proud of her for picking out the one super hero who actually did what super heros are supposed to do. You see, she loved watching The Avengers Earths Mightiest Heros the cartoon. And from watching that they were all going around kicking bad guys asses, but the Cap was actually going out of his way to protect those weaker then him. Which from what I hear from the teachers at school my daughter does as well. In Kindergarten.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

You parent how you parent, and I'll parent how I parent, but I'll be damned if my son will carry a my little pony back pack to school. There were plenty of things my father would not let me do as a child, that all the other kids were doing, and I don't think I grew up to be socially abnormal. With that said, I'm not going to whip my son with a belt over the issue....

tmleadr03
03-23-2014, 19:09
You parent how you parent, and I'll parent how I parent, but I'll be damned if my son will carry a my little pony back pack to school. There were plenty of things my father would not let me do as a child, that all the other kids were doing, and I don't think I grew up to be socially abnormal. With that said, I'm not going to whip my son with a belt over the issue....

What issue do you have with him wearing a MLP backpack?

hurley842002
03-23-2014, 19:24
What issue do you have with him wearing a MLP backpack?

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/24/abe4ega2.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/24/u5ybu7yh.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/24/byvytyte.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/24/qe2u6y7u.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/24/aheteteb.jpg

Do I need to keep going?

My son will be a product of what I expose him to. If I buy little pony dolls for him, or let him carry pony back packs, then he will probably grow up liking finger nail polish and pedicures. No, I will buy him cars, toy guns, and other boy stuff. If when he becomes an adult, he decides he wants to play with finger nail polish, well that's on him, I tried to raise a man.

stenz
03-23-2014, 19:35
Wow.....this little boy is probably just going through a phase? Have you ever gone through a weird phase?

The kid is 9 and has a stupid backpack. Why is that such an issue?

tmleadr03
03-23-2014, 19:40
MLP wont make your son gay any more then dressing like Captain America will make my daughter a lesbian.

ANADRILL
03-23-2014, 19:52
Can't believe so many of y'all are accepting this crap, maybe not a belt but a stern talking to would be in order, but there would be no way I would allow this shit, but I see now why this state is turning to shit....Can't fight for whats right and applaud when your kid's put on dresses and goto school...

sniper7
03-23-2014, 19:52
MLP wont make your son gay any more then dressing like Captain America will make my daughter a lesbian.


This is is how kids become lesbians:


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qF-9_z3Qv5A

hatidua
03-23-2014, 20:05
This is is how kids become lesbians:


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qF-9_z3Qv5A

[LOL]

hurley842002
03-23-2014, 20:06
Wow.....this little boy is probably just going through a phase? Have you ever gone through a weird phase?

The kid is 9 and has a stupid backpack. Why is that such an issue?

It's not an issue for that nine year old, but it would be an issue for my 9 year old.

mcjhr
03-23-2014, 20:08
Kid doesn't need a belt or a bullying. He needs a talking. His choice of backpack comes with consequences. This is the world we live in. He is voicing his individuality, which is fine. But, people can voice their opinions on it. That being said ther are 9-10 year olds and have no concept of what their actions really do. Lots of thing shouldn't happen but they do.

My 5yr old sons favorite color is pink. Fine with me. Only things he wears out in public is a cold weather hat and mittens. Fine with me.

MLP does have good values. I believe it is a parents job to be supportive.

My guess is it is a phase..02cents

hurley842002
03-23-2014, 20:08
MLP wont make your son gay any more then dressing like Captain America will make my daughter a lesbian.

Maybe it won't, but that doesn't change the fact that my son will not be carrying an MLP backpack, or playing with pony dolls. As for your daughter, you can dress her in whatever you'd like, she's YOUR daughter, raise her how you want.

mcjhr
03-23-2014, 20:19
I agree both with tmleadr and Hurley. Different strokes. Just give your kid love and time. We all turned out good.......right?

tmleadr03
03-23-2014, 20:21
I agree both with tmleadr and Hurley. Different strokes. Just give your kid love and time. We all turned out good.......right?

Meh, jury is still out on me.

tmleadr03
03-23-2014, 20:22
Can't believe so many of y'all are accepting this crap, maybe not a belt but a stern talking to would be in order, but there would be no way I would allow this shit, but I see now why this state is turning to shit....Can't fight for whats right and applaud when your kid's put on dresses and goto school...

Have you reproduced?

hurley842002
03-23-2014, 20:22
I agree both with tmleadr and Hurley. Different strokes. Just give your kid love and time. We all turned out good.......right?

I completely agree, I'm sure tmleadr is a good guy and a great father, but I'll raise my son a certain way, and it won't be with pony packs involved.

Irving
03-23-2014, 20:43
I feel like there is a great opportunity for a Dad Swap miniseries here.

tmleadr03
03-23-2014, 20:45
I feel like there is a great opportunity for a Dad Swap miniseries here.

Gonna have to agree to disagree on that one.

hurley842002
03-23-2014, 20:46
I feel like there is a great opportunity for a Dad Swap miniseries here.

As long as my son doesn't have to live with ANADRILL.....

tmleadr03
03-23-2014, 20:48
As long as my son doesn't have to live with ANADRILL.....

That would end... badly.

hurley842002
03-23-2014, 20:50
That would end... badly.

Agreed, in fact I'd rather send him to school with a pony bag lol.

ANADRILL
03-23-2014, 20:53
hahaha

Ridge
03-23-2014, 20:57
Can't believe so many of y'all are accepting this crap

What crap? Who the hell decided what boys and girls are allowed to like, anyways? Why are girls encouraged to move into the roles formerly reserved for boys, but not vice versa?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/11/19/goldieblox_commercial_rewrites_the_beastie_boys_ur ges_young_girls_to_pursue.html

tmleadr03
03-23-2014, 21:08
What crap? Who the hell decided what boys and girls are allowed to like, anyways? Why are girls encouraged to move into the roles formerly reserved for boys, but not vice versa?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/11/19/goldieblox_commercial_rewrites_the_beastie_boys_ur ges_young_girls_to_pursue.html

I looked at that product a while ago. I thought it was... over hyped. Legos are still a better medium. Sadly, there are now girls and boys legos.

ANADRILL
03-23-2014, 21:52
What crap? Who the hell decided what boys and girls are allowed to like, anyways? Why are girls encouraged to move into the roles formerly reserved for boys, but not vice versa?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/11/19/goldieblox_commercial_rewrites_the_beastie_boys_ur ges_young_girls_to_pursue.html
Damn it's time for me to move, I give up....

tmleadr03
03-23-2014, 21:55
Damn it's time for me to move, I give up....

I am sure there are places where beating kids for liking cartoons is ok.

Justin
03-23-2014, 21:57
What crap? Who the hell decided what boys and girls are allowed to like, anyways? Why are girls encouraged to move into the roles formerly reserved for boys, but not vice versa?

Actually, from what I've seen, the schools are, if not outright trying to feminize boys, at least force them to not be boys by cracking down on doing things like playing cowboys and indians and downplaying the importance of winning in sports to make "everybody a winner."

As for the kid with the MLB backpack, I don't have an answer. Hurley's posts are so over the top that I'm not sure if he's actually serious or if they're meant to be a parody. That said, I'd have a hard time with a kid who wanted to go to school expressing his love for a show that exists to market sparkly toy horsies to little girls.

OtterbatHellcat
03-23-2014, 21:58
And it's....


S9MjWBInGZ0

ANADRILL
03-23-2014, 22:04
I am sure there are places where beating kids for liking cartoons is ok.
You are about the same caliber as nynco....stfu

tmleadr03
03-23-2014, 22:09
You are about the same caliber as nynco....stfu

Naw. My arguments are way better formed and much more likely to be based in logic then nynco's are.

But hey, just repeating what you said.

Irving
03-23-2014, 22:09
Gonna have to agree to disagree on that one.

Just moved your name to the very end of the credits. Wanna push me some more? I'll turn this show right around mister.

tmleadr03
03-23-2014, 22:11
Just moved your name to the very end of the credits. Wanna push me some more? I'll turn this show right around mister.

Are weeee theeeere yeeeeet?

Ridge
03-23-2014, 22:12
Damn it's time for me to move, I give up....

[mlp]

tmleadr03
03-23-2014, 22:16
[mlp]

I am mildly irked you get a emoticon all your own. Of course I am not certain how you would make an emoticon of sand in a crotch...

ANADRILL
03-23-2014, 22:17
liberal boys....

Irving
03-23-2014, 22:18
how you would make an emoticon of sand in a crotch...

You can have this one. [flamingo]

tmleadr03
03-23-2014, 22:22
You can have this one. [flamingo]

Flaming flamingo? Thanks I will pass.

Ridge
03-23-2014, 22:30
Flaming flamingo? Thanks I will pass.

Can't have anything pink. That would deserve a beating for the ages.

tmleadr03
03-23-2014, 22:33
Can't have anything pink. That would deserve a beating for the ages.

I have worn in public hairbands, necklaces quite a few pink items if I think about it. Haven't gotten a beating yet, but I did get giggles out of my little girl.

clublights
03-23-2014, 22:44
One of my younger brothers was quite strange I felt when he was 4 or 5 I think . he went thru a phase where he would want to wear make up and dresses.. I thought it was odd.. but my parents let him at it .. he out grew it in a year or two and went on the be a Recon Marine ( well he was slotted for Recon and had health issues pop up and got him Med discharged... ) and married a rather good looking blonde chick ..

You gunna say he wasn't raised right ?

hurley842002
03-24-2014, 07:20
Hurley's posts are so over the top that I'm not sure if he's actually serious or if they're meant to be a parody.

We have a member willing to beat a child for wearing a pony bag, and yet MY posts are over the top?

davsel
03-24-2014, 08:25
I don't blame the kid, I blame the kid's parents for letting him go to school with a girl's backpack. The school is just attempting to do what the parents refuse.

As far as blaming the victim - why not?
I get tired of often hearing, "don't blame the victim."
If you dress or act far outside the norm, you will likely be picked on. It's your fault.
If you dress like a whore and walk drunk through seedy neighborhoods alone at night, you will likely be raped. It's your fault.
If you leave the keys in your car overnight in most neighborhoods, you will likely have it stolen. It's your fault.

Actions have consequences. Make smarter choices.

kidicarus13
03-24-2014, 09:44
I don't blame the kid, I blame the kid's parents for letting him go to school with a girl's backpack. The school is just attempting to do what the parents refuse.

As far as blaming the victim - why not?
I get tired of often hearing, "don't blame the victim."
If you dress or act far outside the norm, you will likely be picked on. It's your fault.
If you dress like a whore and walk drunk through seedy neighborhoods alone at night, you will likely be raped. It's your fault.
If you leave the keys in your car overnight in most neighborhoods, you will likely have it stolen. It's your fault.

Actions have consequences. Make smarter choices.

Your views reflect mine and that is admirable [Beer]

ANADRILL
03-24-2014, 10:39
We have a member willing to beat a child for wearing a pony bag, and yet MY posts are over the top?

Gents I did retract my view in an earlier post, and said a strong talking to, yet we keep harping on the original statement....hahahaha But that said, back in the South a father would have never allowed it to happen, and if the son continued to do it against his father's will, then he would have gotten the strap.

tmleadr03 and Ridge want the kid to continue carrying pony bags, and see no issue with him dressing in dresses...I have a problem with this, sorry continue to crucify me, but I am not sticking up for liberal trash views...

tmleadr03
03-24-2014, 11:08
Gents I did retract my view in an earlier post, and said a strong talking to, yet we keep harping on the original statement....hahahaha But that said, back in the South a father would have never allowed it to happen, and if the son continued to do it against his father's will, then he would have gotten the strap.

tmleadr03 and Ridge want the kid to continue carrying pony bags, and see no issue with him dressing in dresses...I have a problem with this, sorry continue to crucify me, but I am not sticking up for liberal trash views...

While you are quoted as saying you would beat the kid for the back pack I challenge you to find a place where I said dresses were ok. You want to make me to be like nynco in your head yet your tactics are much more in line with his then mine are when it comes to arguments. If you are not winning the argument you call names and make stuff up.

ANADRILL
03-24-2014, 11:32
While you are quoted as saying you would beat the kid for the back pack I challenge you to find a place where I said dresses were ok. You want to make me to be like nynco in your head yet your tactics are much more in line with his then mine are when it comes to arguments. If you are not winning the argument you call names and make stuff up.

I ain't making you into shit, you did that to yourself...

hatidua
03-24-2014, 11:49
UPDATE: the school has backtracked and the kid can bring his pony-bag to school again. This should make everyone happy: parents can raise their kid how they want (win), kid can be an individualist (win), and society will now magically start embracing people that stray from societal norms (win).

tmleadr03
03-24-2014, 11:50
I ain't making you into shit, you did that to yourself...

You want to argue your point, do so. If you want to make stuff about what I have said, I will call you on it all day long. You want to call names, feel free. But once again I will call you on it all day long.


You want to know when you have lost an argument? It is when you have to make stuff up and call names.

The only one you are embarrassing here is yourself.

Colorado_Outback
03-24-2014, 12:40
As far as blaming the victim - why not?
I get tired of often hearing, "don't blame the victim."
If you dress or act far outside the norm, you will likely be picked on. It's your fault.
If you dress like a whore and walk drunk through seedy neighborhoods alone at night, you will likely be raped. It's your fault.
If you leave the keys in your car overnight in most neighborhoods, you will likely have it stolen. It's your fault.

Actions have consequences. Make smarter choices.


Your logic is flawless.

All those old people that became victims of the knock out game, well I guess they shouldn't have been minding there business looking all old!

That director of prisons that got shot answering his door in monument last year? I suppose getting shot in the face was his fault too, huh? HA that will teach you to take a promotion!

davsel
03-24-2014, 12:40
I have not seen any mention of the boy's father in the news articles.

Good luck, kid. You appear to have a tough row to hoe.

wctriumph
03-24-2014, 12:52
If you dress like a whore and walk drunk through seedy neighborhoods alone at night, you will likely be raped. It's your fault.

In my opinion, this is 100% WRONG. When a woman, or anyone for that matter, is forcibly raped, it most assuredly IS NOT THEIR FAULT. They may have made a bad decision that led to their being in that situation, they are not at fault for being raped. The rapist(s) are at fault 100% of the time! 100% OF THE TIME!!! In my opinion, if any person forcibly rapes another person and is found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, the rapist should be executed at the earliest convenience.


TEA

davsel
03-24-2014, 12:53
Your logic is flawless.

All those old people that became victims of the knock out game, well I guess they shouldn't have been minding there business looking all old!

That director of prisons that got shot answering his door in monument last year? I suppose getting shot in the face was his fault too, huh? HA that will teach you to take a promotion!

You are so right!
I forgot that critical thinking was no longer taught in school.
My apologies.
Try this: Some (not all, not even most) victims contribute to the likelihood of their being a victim due to their behavior.

Irving
03-24-2014, 13:00
And?

Wish I could get out of speeding tickets that way. "Well, the street is DOWNHILL, what was I supppsed to do?"

davsel
03-24-2014, 13:03
In my opinion, this is 100% WRONG. When a woman, or anyone for that matter, is forcibly raped, it most assuredly IS NOT THEIR FAULT. They may have made a bad decision that led to their being in that situation, they are not at fault for being raped. The rapist(s) are at fault 100% of the time! 100% OF THE TIME!!! In my opinion, if any person forcibly rapes another person and is found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, the rapist should be executed at the earliest convenience.


TEA

How bout when a person jumps into the lion exhibit at the zoo and is killed by the lions? Victim? Fault? Naivete?

Irving
03-24-2014, 13:06
Assumed risk. Can't compare wild animals to people, even common street criminals.

kidicarus13
03-24-2014, 13:10
Try this: Some (not all, not even most) victims contribute to the likelihood of their being a victim due to their behavior.

Still agree. The victim's fault- NO. The victim contributing to the likelihood of their being a victim- YES. Not what most want to hear- SORRY.

Decisions have potential consequences and some consequences are worse than others. Am I suggesting you stay locked up in a padded room so you do not become a victim? That decision will be up to the individual. Shall you venture out into the real world and get victimized? That decision is also up to the individual after they weigh potential consequences vs. potential reward for their actions. Is anywhere on this earth fair? No. For those that do not accept the harsh reality of life you may believe in what some people call karma if that helps you sleep better at night.

hghclsswhitetrsh
03-24-2014, 13:14
Whole lotta this goin on here...

42621

hatidua
03-24-2014, 13:22
Whole lotta this goin on here...

42621

-and very nearly as fun to watch! :p

tmleadr03
03-24-2014, 13:23
Whole lotta this goin on here...

42621


http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/1307337/purse-fight-o.gif

Colorado_Outback
03-24-2014, 13:50
Try this: Some (not all, not even most) victims contribute to the likelihood of their being a victim due to their behavior.

Haha That's how crime works. The victim is chosen by the criminal because he/she thinks that person is an easy target.

Aside from being able to read every criminals mind everywhere I'm not sure how you would prevent "contributing to the likelihood of being a victim"..

wctriumph
03-24-2014, 14:09
How bout when a person jumps into the lion exhibit at the zoo and is killed by the lions? Victim? Fault? Naivete?

[facepalm]

Colorado_Outback
03-24-2014, 14:31
Davsel, I hope you never have to look a family member in the eye and say "Actions have consequences. Make smarter choices." after a rape or sexual assault.

The fact that you think a woman could be responsible for being forcibly raped is fucking sick.

Sharpienads
03-24-2014, 14:55
Davsel, I hope you never have to look a family member in the eye and say "Actions have consequences. Make smarter choices." after a rape or sexual assault.

The fact that you think a woman could be responsible for being forcibly raped is fucking sick.

Yup.

theGinsue
03-24-2014, 16:03
[edited]

I closed this thread before seeing that ya'll decided to control yourselves towards the end. Keep it civil or it'll close again.

RblDiver
03-24-2014, 16:48
Yes fault would lie with a rapist, but wearing certain items is similar to not locking your door. You should be free to do so and never worry, but in the real world people will take advantage, so it may not be the wisest thing in the world. Your "fault"? No. Your "unwise move"? Perhaps.

Similar with this kid, he has the full right to wear what he wants and should be free from being bullied, but it'd be best if he knows the possibility exists before he does it and is appropriately prepared. Hopefully he learns to stand up for himself (and maybe even others) as a result. I hope he doesn't learn to rely solely on others (such as teachers) for help, because that could lead to a "when seconds count cops are minutes away" moment in his future.

Irving
03-24-2014, 17:56
What a girl wears should have no bearing on a rape. EVERY rapist KNOWS what is under the clothes, regardless of what type of clothes they are. They know, and if they want to put in the effort, they will. To say that a clothing choice facilitated the assault is a cop-out at best.

tmleadr03
03-24-2014, 18:25
What a girl wears should have no bearing on a rape. EVERY rapist KNOWS what is under the clothes, regardless of what type of clothes they are. They know, and if they want to put in the effort, they will. To say that a clothing choice facilitated the assault is a cop-out at best.

This thread shows why rape is still one of the most under-reported crimes out there.

<MADDOG>
03-24-2014, 22:01
My personal observation:

Raise a boy to be a man/gentleman. Girls are, well, females...[LOL]

Contradictory to that: how many of you here have a kid in MS/HS? I can tell you from personal observation; the LGBT "community" is well pronounced and in many cases, accepted as the norm (at least here in SOCO).

Who's to blame? The kids, the parents, or society? Myself, I blame the last 2; and I also do in this thread's topic.

davsel
03-24-2014, 23:03
Assumed risk. Can't compare wild animals to people, even common street criminals.

You're correct, many people are worse:
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/68830/iraqi-muslim-immigrant-convicted-in-brutal-rectal-gang-rape-of-53-yr-old-colorado-woman-he-drugged/


The world is a dangerous and "unfair" place. If an assumed adult fails to recognize this glaring fact, and proceeds into it unaware/unprepared, I find them at fault. If a parent sends their child into the world unaware/unprepared, I find them at fault.

The part that amazes me most, is that this mother has put her 9 year old son on national TV and the Internet - Something that will follow him for the rest of his life. Disgusting bit of "parenting" in my book.

Irving
03-25-2014, 00:40
You have a skewed view of liability, but I agree with your last sentence.

MrPrena
03-25-2014, 01:07
YES
I understand perspective of people who gets bullied these days. It is not same bullying as when I was going to school.

Bailey Guns
03-25-2014, 07:21
A woman is partially responsible for being sexually assaulted because of how she dresses? That has to be the most reprehensible comment ever made on this forum.

That's akin to saying in a political climate where guns are looked upon unfavorably by many you deserved to be arrested because everyone knew you were always talking about guns, everyone knew you were a "gun nut" and you had an "arsenal" of weapons and ammo, and people were afraid of you.

Rucker61
03-25-2014, 08:28
My personal observation:

Raise a boy to be a man/gentleman. Girls are, well, females...[LOL]

Contradictory to that: how many of you here have a kid in MS/HS? I can tell you from personal observation; the LGBT "community" is well pronounced and in many cases, accepted as the norm (at least here in SOCO).

Who's to blame? The kids, the parents, or society? Myself, I blame the last 2; and I also do in this thread's topic.

Why is there blame? Why should it matter if these kids are comfortable and safe enough to come out in school?

kawiracer14
03-25-2014, 08:45
Guess what, you're either a cool kid growing up or you get made fun of.

Life is tough - if you want to wear a little pony backpack to school you're probably going to get made fun of. Such is life.

Colorado_Outback
03-25-2014, 10:06
A woman is partially responsible for being sexually assaulted because of how she dresses? That has to be the most reprehensible comment ever made on this forum.

That's akin to saying in a political climate where guns are looked upon unfavorably by many you deserved to be arrested because everyone knew you were always talking about guns, everyone knew you were a "gun nut" and you had an "arsenal" of weapons and ammo, and people were afraid of you.

Quoted for truth.

WTF is going on around here lately.

kawiracer14
03-25-2014, 10:07
Davesl has some really great views about women. It's their fault they were forcibly raped --- oh and they shouldn't get to vote or work either... that's the MANs job!

XC700116
03-25-2014, 10:25
I don't blame the kid, I blame the kid's parents for letting him go to school with a girl's backpack. The school is just attempting to do what the parents refuse.

As far as blaming the victim - why not?
I get tired of often hearing, "don't blame the victim."
If you dress or act far outside the norm, you will likely be picked on. It's your fault.
If you dress like a whore and walk drunk through seedy neighborhoods alone at night, you will likely be raped. It's your fault.
If you leave the keys in your car overnight in most neighborhoods, you will likely have it stolen. It's your fault.

Actions have consequences. Make smarter choices.

I would agree to the extent that they share some responsibility and with the caveat that the aggressor/rapist/thief doesn't get a pass on what they did because of their victims idiocy. ie, Victim doesn't deserve all the coddling outrage, and the perpetrator still deserves just punishment.

And a lot of people seem to be forgetting/not reading the other half of that statement highlighted in bold, and completely and consciously choosing "outrage" over the obvious overtone in the above quote that he's using to point out that people need to take responsibility for PROTECTING THEIR OWN INTERESTS.

Guys around here will scream from the rooftops any number of cliches like "I carry a gun because you can't carry a cop" or the ever popular minutes and seconds ones, but can't honestly admit that when you consciously make decisions that increase your exposure, you hold some of the bag on your own victimization????????

EVERY concealed carry argument besides "Because it's my right" is rooted in EXACTLY that argument and taking responsibility for your own safety. Every self defense course worth it's salt has a good dose of "an once of prevention is worth a pound of cure" in the curriculum, for that exact reason.
Hell even legal precedence has been set in SOME cases that insurance companies can deny claims based on the claimant unduly increasing their risk. keys in car, too much flammables in the garage, flood insurance separate from home owners insurance (some here may have learned that one the hard way)

Yet because the above quote challenges your chivalrous views of "how it should be", you can't see past the fact that it's just highlighting what some victims do to put themselves in a place where they are more likely to be victimized and for some reason everybody wants to forget how the real world works and go to fantasy land. Un-fricken real.

We live in a world where everyone knows, or at least should know, there are predators, thieves, bullies, rapists, pedophiles, and opportunist criminals. If you choose to completely ignore those aspects of this world, then yes, you hold some of the responsibility for your own victimization if it happens to you.

I learned a little lesson on this one the hard way a year ago, when I left my EDC weapon in my locked truck in a not so great part of town and someone broke into the truck, stole the weapon and many other valuables that were in it as well. Guess what was one of the first things said by many here on this board? "Why was it in your truck and not on your person?"

osok-308
03-25-2014, 11:03
How bout when a person jumps into the lion exhibit at the zoo and is killed by the lions? Victim? Fault? Naivete?

Comparing a lion to a rapist is a gross exaggeration. Lions, being creatures driven by instinct are not capable of higher thinking. They cannot be faulted for acting out of what they perceive as a method of their own survival. A rapist is not raping someone out of instinct or a need for survival, but rather out of some sick and twisted desire. Yes, there are things that you can do to lower your chance of being attacked, but blaming someone for the actions of another is akin to what the anti gunners do.

kidicarus13
03-25-2014, 12:09
I would agree to the extent that they share some responsibility and with the caveat that the aggressor/rapist/thief doesn't get a pass on what they did because of their victims idiocy. ie, Victim doesn't deserve all the coddling outrage, and the perpetrator still deserves just punishment.

And a lot of people seem to be forgetting/not reading the other half of that statement highlighted in bold, and completely and consciously choosing "outrage" over the obvious overtone in the above quote that he's using to point out that people need to take responsibility for PROTECTING THEIR OWN INTERESTS.

Guys around here will scream from the rooftops any number of cliches like "I carry a gun because you can't carry a cop" or the ever popular minutes and seconds ones, but can't honestly admit that when you consciously make decisions that increase your exposure, you hold some of the bag on your own victimization????????

EVERY concealed carry argument besides "Because it's my right" is rooted in EXACTLY that argument and taking responsibility for your own safety. Every self defense course worth it's salt has a good dose of "an once of prevention is worth a pound of cure" in the curriculum, for that exact reason.
Hell even legal precedence has been set in SOME cases that insurance companies can deny claims based on the claimant unduly increasing their risk. keys in car, too much flammables in the garage, flood insurance separate from home owners insurance (some here may have learned that one the hard way)

Yet because the above quote challenges your chivalrous views of "how it should be", you can't see past the fact that it's just highlighting what some victims do to put themselves in a place where they are more likely to be victimized and for some reason everybody wants to forget how the real world works and go to fantasy land. Un-fricken real.

We live in a world where everyone knows, or at least should know, there are predators, thieves, bullies, rapists, pedophiles, and opportunist criminals. If you choose to completely ignore those aspects of this world, then yes, you hold some of the responsibility for your own victimization if it happens to you.

I learned a little lesson on this one the hard way a year ago, when I left my EDC weapon in my locked truck in a not so great part of town and someone broke into the truck, stole the weapon and many other valuables that were in it as well. Guess what was one of the first things said by many here on this board? "Why was it in your truck and not on your person?"

Explained well IMHO. So if a white male gets attacked and beated to near death from walking around Five Points by himself at 2AM Friday night without carrying the forum would say, "What was he doing there? What did he expect would happen? Why would he put himself in that situation and why would he not be carrying?" But if a women makes poor choices, 0% of outcome is her fault. No free pass for the aggressor but come on! This is not a male/female issue.

sniper7
03-25-2014, 13:18
Seems like this would be a valid question considering the downward path this thread has taken:

would beating the human in this crib be considered child abuse or would he deserve it for the shirt and stuffed animal and pacifier?

davsel
03-25-2014, 13:20
Two to the chest, one to the head.
For the protection of the human race.

sniper7
03-25-2014, 13:24
And my next question would be:

if somebody, be them male or female dressed up is a seductive looking bronie outfit and placed the self in a bad part of town, was subsequently raped, would it be considered rape or beastiality? Blame for the rape can be decided in another question. And I'm honestly quite sickened when I googled bronie outfits so I'm not posting a picture of that.

Gman
03-25-2014, 13:26
And I'm honestly quite sickened when I googled bronie outfits so I'm not posting a picture of that.
Apparently our tolerance levels are quite different. I can't believe you didn't leave that first picture where you found it...but no, you had to bring it here.

sniper7
03-25-2014, 13:29
Apparently our tolerance levels are quite different. I can't believe you didn't leave that first picture where you found it...but no, you had to bring it here.

Oh, its a throw up in your mouth kind of picture, but is just the tip of the ice berg. I won't go further than that since we have a couple pony people around here and I'll just suppress my opinions to off the net so as to not lock this ever amusing thread.

mountainjenny
03-25-2014, 14:15
I'm confused and saddened by this thread.

What I am reading is...

The "consequences" for not dressing appropriately or to some unknown societal standard are:

1) Beatings, including children
2) Rape
3) Two to the chest and one to the head

[facepalm]

Bailey Guns
03-25-2014, 14:29
I'm confused and saddened by this thread.

What I am reading is...

The "consequences" for not dressing appropriately or to some unknown societal standard are:

1) Beatings, including children
2) Rape
3) Two to the chest and one to the head

[facepalm]

Appears to be that way. So be careful when you select your clothes in the morning.

Gman
03-25-2014, 14:33
I thought there was something in here about being shot for wearing a tie...

...but maybe I cross-threaded.

Irving
03-25-2014, 14:36
No shirt, no shoes, no service.
Wrong shirt, wrong shoes, rape.

XC700116
03-25-2014, 15:30
Seems like this would be a valid question considering the downward path this thread has taken:

would beating the human in this crib be considered child abuse or would he deserve it for the shirt and stuffed animal and pacifier?

No, he looks to be a grown man, so it'd most likely be simple assault, the fact you can find such a picture on the net tends toward the fact he's 18+. If that's the sole justification for said beating, no it's not justified.


And my next question would be:

if somebody, be them male or female dressed up is a seductive looking bronie outfit and placed the self in a bad part of town, was subsequently raped, would it be considered rape or beastiality?

LMFAO


To the rest, that refuse to read the qualifiers, or distinguish reason from justification, here's the point.

If someone chooses to do things outside of societal norms, they should full well know that there is some asshole out there that will use it as an excuse, reason, or provocation to justify in their mind the actions of assaulting/picking on/raping/whatever, that person. THIS IS IN NO WAY TO BE CONSTRUED AS ACTUALLY JUSTIFYING ANY OF THOSE ACTIONS. It doesn't make it right, it doesn't excuse it, or justify it, it is simply the fact of the world we live in. To say anything different is ignoring reality. Therefore if you chose to do those things, you know full well you're pushing some asshole's button, and therefore you should prepare for the consequences of those decisions. ie, said asshole may do something bad to you. Meanwhile, you are free to do all those things at home without that repercussion. You choose. The point is simply that that person is consciously making a decision to do something that increases their risk of becoming a target. Pick your battles wisely, the nail that stands up gets hammered.

In the same breath, because you choose to be some brony fruitball, I DO NOT, have to accept it as ok, normal, or be your friend or otherwise go out of my way to help you justify those decisions. It makes absolutely ZERO difference to me in any way shape or form what you do as long as it's not infringing on mine or someone else's rights. I also have no obligation to tell my kid that it's ok or normal. I do have the obligation to tell my kid it's NOT ok to use it as an excuse to be an asshole. I also have an obligation to use those instances to teach my kid about the real world and how those things make you stand out as a target, and that they should make other choices to help protect themselves from said assholes or alternatively how to otherwise defend themselves in a case where something like that is, in their view, worth the risks of making themselves stand out, because assholes are everywhere.

Irving
03-25-2014, 15:37
Well, that's assuming that you know the way you act is different than the way others act. They don't tip in pubs in London. How well versed is a 9 year-old in the ways of the world? Sounds like this is a ln early lesson to me.

Gman
03-25-2014, 15:47
Societies in nature have 'norms', whether they are human or animal. They are there to protect the survival of the group. Violating those norms often results in some form of response from the group.

But hey, we're humans and we can control nature.

XC700116
03-25-2014, 15:50
Well, that's assuming that you know the way you act is different than the way others act. They don't tip in pubs in London. How well versed is a 9 year-old in the ways of the world? Sounds like this is a ln early lesson to me.

Very true, and his parents SHOULD be pointing those facts of the world out to him, and should have before hand so he could make an informed decision if he didn't know.

hatidua
03-25-2014, 16:13
Societies in nature have 'norms', whether they are human or animal. They are there to protect the survival of the group. Violating those norms often results in some form of response from the group.

The rise of political-correctness would have us think otherwise. Apparently, due to having Twitter/Facebook/iPhones, people are magically going to act differently now than they did 100 years ago. It's really quite amazing.

Ridge
03-25-2014, 17:45
Societies in nature have 'norms', whether they are human or animal. They are there to protect the survival of the group. Violating those norms often results in some form of response from the group.

But hey, we're humans and we can control nature.

So, you're saying that the backpack is detrimental to the survival of the species?

Gman
03-25-2014, 19:05
So, you're saying that the backpack is detrimental to the survival of the species?
I didn't say that, but you knew that already.

Sent from my electronic leash.

Ah Pook
03-25-2014, 21:28
Gents I did retract my view in an earlier post, and said a strong talking to, yet we keep harping on the original statement....
Backpedaling already? Figures.

Ridge
03-25-2014, 21:54
back in the South a father would have never allowed it to happen, and if the son continued to do it against his father's will, then he would have gotten the strap.

Back in the south, a person of color would also get the strap for going against social norms.

sniper7
03-25-2014, 21:58
Well, that's assuming that you know the way you act is different than the way others act. They don't tip in pubs in London. How well versed is a 9 year-old in the ways of the world? Sounds like this is a ln early lesson to me.


Very true, and his parents SHOULD be pointing those facts of the world out to him, and should have before hand so he could make an informed decision if he didn't know.


Back in the south, a person of color would also get the strap for going against social norms.


What time period do you speak of? What are the social norms of the south today that you know so much about?

Ridge
03-25-2014, 22:06
What time period do you speak of? What are the social norms of the south today that you know so much about?

Interracial marriage? That's a torturin' (http://abcnews.go.com/US/family-searching-answers-mans-mysterious-death/story?id=22373567)

Gman
03-25-2014, 22:08
That's not the "norm"...but keep on grasping for corner cases to make a point.

sniper7
03-25-2014, 22:45
Interracial marriage? That's a torturin' (http://abcnews.go.com/US/family-searching-answers-mans-mysterious-death/story?id=22373567)

Your response is a link to an article where a man dies of an overdose on drugs and his family says he would never do anything like that and are now looking into ways to sue somebody? Wow....

Ridge
03-26-2014, 06:33
Your response is a link to an article where a man dies of an overdose on drugs and his family says he would never do anything like that and are now looking into ways to sue somebody? Wow....

They neglect to mention that he was found with a slit throat and an ear cut off. (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/05/death-of-texas-man-with-slit-throat-and-missing-ear-ruled-accidental-overdose/)

tmleadr03
03-26-2014, 07:27
They neglect to mention that he was found with a slit throat and an ear cut off. (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/05/death-of-texas-man-with-slit-throat-and-missing-ear-ruled-accidental-overdose/)


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Rucker61
03-26-2014, 10:05
They neglect to mention that he was found with a slit throat and an ear cut off. (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/05/death-of-texas-man-with-slit-throat-and-missing-ear-ruled-accidental-overdose/)

That's why the UK is banning knives - to prevent accidents like this.

sniper7
03-26-2014, 10:09
They neglect to mention that he was found with a slit throat and an ear cut off. (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/05/death-of-texas-man-with-slit-throat-and-missing-ear-ruled-accidental-overdose/)

So a druggie overdosing and getting killed is now a social norm of the south? And they haven't found out if it was a drug related crime where he owed a guy money for drugs or numerous other scenarios. In your mind you jump straight to the conclusion that is was white cops who killed him and refused to find him? That is still a possible scenario I agree but very far reaching for a dead druggie.
I might as well start guessing that this 9 year olds dad is a meth cook and the pony backpack was used to separate him from the rest so the meth heads know where to pick their stuff up from. That's why the parents were so outraged that he couldn't take his backpack to school now,...cuttin into their profits

davsel
03-26-2014, 10:25
They neglect to mention that he was found with a slit throat and an ear cut off. (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/05/death-of-texas-man-with-slit-throat-and-missing-ear-ruled-accidental-overdose/)

If you read beyond the headline,

The medical examiner attributed the injuries to animal and insect activity.

Ridge
03-27-2014, 22:21
If you read beyond the headline,

And how many of those will make a clean cut across the trachea of a dead animal?

davsel
03-27-2014, 22:24
And how many of those will make a clean cut across the trachea of a dead animal?

Source?

ETA: For clarification, what is the source of this assertion. All the articles I have read do not mention a "clean cut across the trachea."

Gman
03-27-2014, 22:51
Did Ridge just implicate himself in being present when the crime was committed?

sniper7
03-27-2014, 22:54
Hey ridge: [dig]

wctriumph
03-28-2014, 18:43
Would things have been different if the kid had a GI Joe Backpack? Probably would have been suspended for that.

sniper7
03-28-2014, 19:28
Would things have been different if the kid had a GI Joe Backpack? Probably would have been suspended for that.

Depends on the school. If it had a gun on it, and the right administration, it is quite feasible they would have told the kid or parents he couldn't wear the backpack because it broke school policy or had guns or whatever excuse they use. I doubt he would get made fun of because it is socially acceptable.
The parents reaction is anybody's guess.

the biggest problem with this story is the parents. They can't leave well enough alone, are going to get their kid made fun of, and set a terrible example for the kid taking it to such an extreme level over a simple backpack.