Tell me he isnt THIS stupid

[BPTactical]

http://freebeacon.com/obama-to-kill-tomahawk-hellfire-missile-programs/

[Ridge]

Some of the other headlines make me question the legitimacy of this source...

[ray1970]

Some of the other headlines make me question the legitimacy of this source...

says the the guy with the pony fetish. [Coffee]

[sniper7]

If only his dad beat him

[ray1970]

If only his dad beat him

Ridge or Obama?

[Ridge]

says the the guy with the pony fetish. [Coffee]

It's not a fetish, it's a lifestyle!

http://nocountryfornewnashville.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Brony.jpg

[BPTactical]

It's not a fetish, it's a lifestyle!

http://nocountryfornewnashville.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Brony.jpg


Eye Bleach please.
[Puke]

[sniper7]

Ridge or Obama?

Obama

[Ridge]

Eye Bleach please.
[Puke]

Sorry, here you go. (http://www.ponymindbleach.com/)

[Colorado_Outback]

Sorry, here you go. (http://www.ponymindbleach.com/)

I'm scared to click that.

Someone needs to add NSFW to the title now!

[gos]

To get back on topic, the way these discussions work is:

Lawmaker A: I need to cut your budget by 10%, since our economy sucks
Military: Fine, we'll do that by eliminating the weapon program built in your state.
Lawmaker: You can't do that, it'd leave us at grave risk of ALL THE TERRORISTS AAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
Military: Fine, then give me last year's budget plus 10%
Lawmaker: If that's what it takes to keep us safe, sure.

Then the military gives all the money to their contractors who charge 10x what the shit is actually worth, pockets kickbacks from KBR etc, and goes home fat and happy, meanwhile depriving the grunts on the ground from having basic shit they need like working body armor or meals that don't leave you so constipated you're pooping what amounts to briquettes.

[wctriumph]

I wish I was the somebody with the power to do something about this.


TEA

III

[ANADRILL]

Removing of the nuke shield protecting eastern europe, and his off camera remarks to Medvedev about having more flexibility should prove he isn't stupid, but calculated in handing us over to the commies...Seriously, how do we just bounce back after all this damage he's done? Now naval defense....Obama handed control to russia, what else would you expect a commie to do?

[zteknik]

I wish I was the somebody with the power to do something about this.


TEA

III
There is ,or should I say was- Congress. But their in his pockets so nothing will get done..

[ANADRILL]

The communist party has been slowly working it's way into the mainstream for a long time. Politcal correctness to silence the 1A, community organizing to rally the poor & uneducated who draw from welfare programs, and hollywood to give the masses demi-gods to worship.
To believe all this wasn't planned for is foolish....We can do something, but we need to play as dirty as they do. We can't win trying to be nice guys...

[Gman]

Must gouge out mind's eye...

Too much pony lovin' in this thread.

[<MADDOG>]

If the article is legit, might be making way for the US Army/Navy hyper-sonic cruise missile J/V (not the USAFA failure). I can't find the article now, but from what I remember; strike anywhere within 3 hours from CONUS.

The Russians and Chinese have been going to town on this tech, we gotta keep up.

My SWAG...

[ChunkyMonkey]

Every time the budget is being cut, the armed forces will propose to cut the most reliable weaponary. It's part of their tactic to scare the govt to give them more money. Unfortunately, I dont think Obama cares either way.

Here is the original report to satisfy Ridge :)

http://www.defensenews.com/article/20140304/DEFREG02/303040039/US-Navy-Budget-Takes-Bite-Out-Aircraft-Weapons

[ChunkyMonkey]

If the article is legit, might be making way for the US Army/Navy hyper-sonic cruise missile J/V (not the USAFA failure). I can't find the article now, but from what I remember; strike anywhere within 3 hours from CONUS.

The Russians and Chinese have been going to town on this tech, we gotta keep up.

My SWAG...

Google HSSW

[Dave]

He isn't stupid, never think he is. He knows exactly what he is doing. This accomplishes political goals like getting republicans to get angry about defense cuts that he can promise the money to his voting block by saying he cut DoD money to fund unemployment and SNAP. If republicans block it the dems can spin it to make the republicans look heartless and unwilling to give up their corporate war machine that funds their greed at the expense of the poor.

[Ridge]

The only US Navy aircraft I can determine that actually uses Hellfires are SH-60 Seahawk helicopters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-114_Hellfire#Launch_vehicles_and_systems

I also like how Air Tractors can be outfitted with them. Would have made the movie Planes more bearable to watch...

[<MADDOG>]

Google HSSW

Chunky, I'm sure you are on to something; but it didn't pop up quickly enough for my ADD [LOL]. I'll find it (it was really recent and by a reputable site).


He isn't stupid, never think he is. He knows exactly what he is doing. This accomplishes political goals like getting republicans to get angry about defense cuts that he can promise the money to his voting block by saying he cut DoD money to fund unemployment and SNAP. If republicans block it the dems can spin it to make the republicans look heartless and unwilling to give up their corporate war machine that funds their greed at the expense of the poor.

Dave, with all due respect; I think you may underestimate the power of congress and lobbyists...[Beer]

[ChunkyMonkey]

Chunky, I'm sure you are on to something; but it didn't pop up quickly enough for my ADD [LOL]. I'll find it (it was really recent and by a reputable site).



Dave, with all due respect; I think you may underestimate the power of congress and lobbyists...[Beer]

I read the same article you referred to. It s pushing HSSW budget for operational status because the Chinese are moving so much faster than expected.


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[Hound]

I shot them as an FT on Subs, then worked on the program dealing with mission dissemination for Raytheon when I got out. I can find no credible source the agrees with this article.... I am calling BS until better sources are found. I would have heard from one of my friends if this were true.

[<MADDOG>]

[QUOTE=ChunkyMonkey;1569855]I read the same article you referred to. It s pushing HSSW budget for operational status because the Chinese are moving so much faster than expected.[QUOTE]

My weak googlefu popped this up (it's not the one I was referring to, as it was more of a PPT type of site, and illustrated the missile's capabilities):

http://www.army.mil/article/121957/Army_on_budget__on_schedule_with_hypersonic_missil e_program/

Hound: I agree, the Tomahawk is way too cheap, and there are too many platforms carrying it...

[buffalobo]

I read the same article you referred to. It s pushing HSSW budget for operational status because the Chinese are moving so much faster than expected.


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We(U.S.) have a few folks (traitors in this case) who think it was/is OK to sell secret tech to the Chinese. Wonder how much this sort of shenanigans have contributed to Chinese rapid pace?

Lobbed from my electronic ball and chain.

[Bailey Guns]

The Tomahawk missile program—known (http://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/tomahawk/) as “the world’s most advanced cruise missile”—is set to be cut by $128 million under Obama’s fiscal year 2015 budget proposal (emphasis mine) and completely eliminated by fiscal year 2016, according to budget documents (http://www.finance.hq.navy.mil/FMB/15pres/DON_PB15_Press_Brief.pdf) released by the Navy.

An Obama budget? That's a laugh. Obama can't even get democrats to vote for his proposed budgets. I'll hold off worrying about this for the moment.