View Full Version : CC carrying Coors Field?????
Going to my first Rockies game tomorrow. Any insight as to carrying conceled?
newracer
04-03-2014, 17:41
This has been covered many times.
It's a no-go, even though this is a publicly funded facility.
http://colorado.rockies.mlb.com/col/ballpark/information/index.jsp?content=security
Prohibited Items
Alcoholic beverages, illegal drugs or medical marijuana
Non-alcoholic beer
Glass bottles and aluminum cans
Aerosol cans (including sunscreen)
All hard-sided coolers and containers, regardless of size
All hard-sided briefcases, regardless of size
All soft-sided bags and containers larger than 16"x16"x8"
Camera tri, dual or single leg pods by non-media personnel. Video cameras are permitted as long as live game action is not recorded in order to protect Colorado Rockies local and national rightsholders.
Bota bags, wine skins or camel packs
Sticks or clubs (including signs attached to sticks)
Fireworks, firearms or other weapons
Bullhorns or noise makers
Confetti
Animals (except service animals for Guests with Disabilities are permitted)
Beachballs, balloons and other inflatables
Skateboards, rollerblades or shoes with wheels
Stools or folding chairs
Large squirt guns or super soakers
Fish nets and poles
Any fruit or vegetable larger than a grapefruit must be sliced
Laser pointers
Insulated coolers, cups and thermoses larger than 22 ounces
Pizza boxes larger than personal size
We really should have a sticky list...
At least for the well known yes/no/maybe venues.
It's a no-go, even though this is a publicly funded facility.
http://colorado.rockies.mlb.com/col/ballpark/information/index.jsp?content=security
Bring your Cricket bat or Tennis racket.
Great-Kazoo
04-03-2014, 18:10
We really should have a sticky list...
At least for the well known yes/no/maybe venues.
Or perhaps an
Advanced Search (https://www.ar-15.co/search.php)
Bring your Cricket bat or Tennis racket.
Wow, that's where I keep my AR Pistols!
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ChunkyMonkey
04-03-2014, 18:20
Or perhaps an
Advanced Search (https://www.ar-15.co/search.php)
Might as well do it for OP. [Coffee]
https://www.ar-15.co/threads/4556-Coors-Field
https://www.ar-15.co/threads/37820-CCW-at-Coors-Field
I ccw everywhere, unless told verbally.
newracer
04-03-2014, 18:23
I have carried there several times with no issues.
Great-Kazoo
04-03-2014, 18:26
I have carried there several times with no issues.
I'd like to see a show of hands from board members who carry everywhere, regardless of business policy. JK. Outside of bank , federal building, and post orifice
Does anyone actually look for a NO FIREARMS PERMITTED sign ?
I'd like to see a show of hands from board members who carry everywhere, regardless of business policy. JK. Outside of bank , federal building, and post orifice
Does anyone actually look for a NO FIREARMS PERMITTED sign ?
Nope.. they can ask me to leave should they be checking my junk and see a g19 sticking up to the right.
buffalobo
04-03-2014, 18:35
Nope.. they can ask me to leave should they be checking my junk and see a g19 sticking up to the right.
+1.
Lobbed from my electronic ball and chain.
I have carried there several times with no issues.
Daughter used to work for Coors we always had tickets, never had an issue carrying, only issue was flasks, they didn't want us to carry our flasks in. so we learned to place the flasks in your crotch, your CCW in your back pocket.
ZERO THEORY
04-03-2014, 19:03
I'd like to see a show of hands from board members who carry everywhere, regardless of business policy. JK. Outside of bank , federal building, and post orifice
Does anyone actually look for a NO FIREARMS PERMITTED sign ?
Unless it's a government building, K-12 school, or airport, I'm carrying. The only place I've ever had to disarm was at 1st Bank Center when they surprised me with metal detectors for the NIN show and at a concert at Red Rocks.
Never had a problem at 1st bank. That is my bank.
ChunkyMonkey
04-03-2014, 19:13
Never had a problem at 1st bank. That is my bank.
1st Bank Center is not a bank [Coffee]
OK so never been to the CENTER. Guess cause I got Too much money at my local branch...
Unless it's a government building, K-12 school, or airport, I'm carrying. The only place I've ever had to disarm was at 1st Bank Center when they surprised me with metal detectors for the NIN show and at a concert at Red Rocks.
You can carry at the airport, just make sure you are not trying to go through any secure areas with metal detectors manned by the TSA. Picking someone up and helping them pull their roller bag off the belt should not be a problem.
We really should have a sticky list...
At least for the well known yes/no/maybe venues.
Start it, and I'll stick it
Start it, and I'll stick it
Format?
Are we duplicating a list available elsewhere?
General Info:
CBI Site Colorado Concealed handgun permit Statutes (http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/CDPS-CBIMain/CBON/1251622199820)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Colorado
http://www.usacarry.com/forums/colorado-discussion-firearm-news/
http://www.usacarry.com/
Venue: Colorado Convention Center (http://denverconvention.com/)
Event: Colorado RV Adventure Travel Show (http://denverconvention.com/events/details/colorado-rv-adventure-travel-show) (and Boat show)
Date Attended: 01/11/2014
Metal Detectors? (Perm/Wands): None
Search? None
Concealed carry allowed? Y
No firearms signs posted? ?
Did you carry? Y
Open carry allowed? N
No open carry in City/County of Denver
Pistol Magazine Restrictions:
Other sources or references:
Reporting Member: brutal
Other Info: Bellco theatre prohibted list (http://denverconvention.com/attend-an-event/bellco-theatre) includes "weapons."
YMMV
funkymonkey1111
04-04-2014, 06:21
there were random wand searches last year at coors field.
This has been covered many times.
So helpful, you are.
newracer
04-04-2014, 08:50
So helpful, you are.
I try.
there were random wand searches last year at coors field.
I was wanded at both of the Bronco games I went to last year (everyone was) but at the Rockies games they were random. Both stadiums check all bags.
My understanding is the MLB is forcing all stadiums to go full metal detector http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10019305/metal-detectors-expected-all-mlb-stadiums-2014
rockhound
04-07-2014, 10:24
so there is one more plcae you will be a sitting duck when the SHTF
will they be checking every vendors vehicleand person, every network van, every players vehicle, every ushers vehicle and every other person in the stadium who is not a paying fan to be sure they are not carrying or a terrorist.
let me tell you, my FIL designs and supervised the installs on the stadium sounds and video monitors as well as the feeds for the networks and all their communications. when i ran my construction company we did some of the construction on the stadium preparing the concrete kiosks for new sound and video,(those are th tvs you watch while standing uder the bleachers) they never checked anything we took into the building for waepons or bombs or anything else.
policy may have changed, but he has never mentioned any increased security
I can't wait to see them running all the players and their bags through metal detectors. I want see Charlie and Dick Monfort's reaction to being frisked at every game. After all no guns means everybody, right! Right!
funkymonkey1111
05-01-2014, 22:14
Just saw metal detectors at the left field entrance tonight. None at the home plate entrance
Great-Kazoo
05-01-2014, 22:21
I can't wait to see them running all the players and their bags through metal detectors. I want see Charlie and Dick Monfort's reaction to being frisked at every game. After all no guns means everybody, right! Right!
They don't care, it's guns not cocaine they want to keep out.
I went on Easter Sunday... went through metal detectors... beeped and all they were concerned with was what I had in my hand (wallet, keys, etc) My beltline had some metal, and they didn't care. But I also wear a rigger belt.
This has been covered many times.
I believe this topic... while can become redundant... is an EVOLVING subject and deserves constant update. Venues that are CC friendly one day can become Unfriendly tomorrow.
.455_Hunter
05-02-2014, 10:15
So, let me ask a few dumb questions...
If you decide to ignore the "no weapons rule", attempt to carry inside the venue, AND get busted at the entrance by a wand detector, have you actually committed a crime? Will there be a big drama "takedown" by the gate security/LEO, or will they simply ask you to return the gun to your car? Will you be re-admitted, or banned for life from the stadium?
newracer
05-02-2014, 11:05
I believe this topic... while can become redundant... is an EVOLVING subject and deserves constant update. Venues that are CC friendly one day can become Unfriendly tomorrow.
Even more reason do search for a past thread, read it, and reply if it doesn't answer the question or if you have new info.
Even more reason do search for a past thread, read it, and reply if it doesn't answer the question or if you have new info.
True.
So, let me ask a few dumb questions...
If you decide to ignore the "no weapons rule", attempt to carry inside the venue, AND get busted at the entrance by a wand detector, have you actually committed a crime? Will there be a big drama "takedown" by the gate security/LEO, or will they simply ask you to return the gun to your car? Will you be re-admitted, or banned for life from the stadium?
You commit a crime if you take a concealed firearm into a venue with permanent security and metal detectors.
You commit a crime not you are found out, but if you are found out AND asked to leave AND you do not do so.
If you are tackled and such and accosted before being asked to leave I would think there would be liability issues with the security personnel. However I am not a lawyer.
18-12-214. Authority granted by permit
- carrying restrictions.
Statute text
(1) (a) A permit to carry a
concealed handgun authorizes the permittee to carry a concealed handgun in all
areas of the state, except as specifically limited in this section. A permit
does not authorize the permittee to use a handgun in a manner that would violate
a provision of state law. A local government does not have authority to adopt or
enforce an ordinance or resolution that would conflict with any provision of
this part 2.
(b) A peace officer may temporarily
disarm a permittee, incident to a lawful stop of the permittee. The peace
officer shall return the handgun to the permittee prior to discharging the
permittee from the scene.
(2) A permit issued pursuant to this
part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun into a place
where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law.
(3) A permit issued pursuant to this
part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun onto the real
property, or into any improvements erected thereon, of a public elementary,
middle, junior high, or high school; except that:
(a) A permittee may have a handgun
on the real property of the public school so long as the handgun remains in his
or her vehicle and, if the permittee is not in the vehicle, the handgun is in a
compartment within the vehicle and the vehicle is locked;
(b) A permittee who is employed or
retained by contract by a school district as a school security officer may carry
a concealed handgun onto the real property, or into any improvement erected
thereon, of a public elementary, middle, junior high, or high school while the
permittee is on duty;
(c) A permittee may carry a
concealed handgun on undeveloped real property owned by a school district that
is used for hunting or other shooting sports.
(4) A permit issued pursuant to this
part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun into a public
building at which:
(a) Security personnel and
electronic weapons screening devices are permanently in place at each entrance
to the building;
(b) Security personnel
electronically screen each person who enters the building to determine whether
the person is carrying a weapon of any kind; and
(c) Security personnel require each
person who is carrying a weapon of any kind to leave the weapon in possession of
security personnel while the person is in the building.
(5) Nothing in this part 2 shall be
construed to limit, restrict, or prohibit in any manner the existing rights of a
private property owner, private tenant, private employer, or private business
entity.
(6) The provisions of this section
apply to temporary emergency permits issued pursuant to section
18-12-209.
History
funkymonkey1111
05-02-2014, 11:32
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here they are in all their glory.
.455_Hunter
05-02-2014, 11:55
(4) A permit issued pursuant to this
part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun into a public
building at which:
(a) Security personnel and
electronic weapons screening devices are permanently in place at each entrance
to the building;
(b) Security personnel
electronically screen each person who enters the building to determine whether
the person is carrying a weapon of any kind; and
(c) Security personnel require each
person who is carrying a weapon of any kind to leave the weapon in possession of
security personnel while the person is in the building.
Does Coors Field really fit this description? Are they a public or private building? Are there security checkpoints at ALL entrances?
You can't really compare them to a courthouse or other other official gov't business building that really has permanent check points (like the state Dept of Labor building downtown).
Along the same lines, does a temp security person with a wand standing outside the Fillmore Auditorium meet the above requirements?
Does Coors Field really fit this description? Are they a public or private building? Are there security checkpoints at ALL entrances?
You can't really compare them to a courthouse or other other official gov't business building that really has permanent check points (like the state Dept of Labor building downtown).
Along the same lines, does a temp security person with a wand standing outside the Fillmore Auditorium meet the above requirements?
I don't think those guys are permanently there all the time. Who knows, I try to stay away from places like that anyways, too much can go wrong. Too many drunk people who have way too much emotional stock into a sports team's results that they have no contriol over. False-Tribalism is almost as powerful as religion. Wear the wrong jersey (worship the wrong god) in front of the wrong person who has had about 12 beers and you have a recipe for non-success.
.455_Hunter
05-02-2014, 13:35
I try to stay away from places like that anyways, too much can go wrong.
I understand the concern, but it's kinda hard when you want to take your 8 year old son to a baseball game.
I understand the concern, but it's kinda hard when you want to take your 8 year old son to a baseball game.
I hear ya.
I don't condone this, but you also gotta think... IF you werein a position you had to use your sidearm and you didn't have it because "the rules" forbade it, would it be worth saving yours or your son's life and deal with the misdemeanor afterwards?
Just a thought.
funkymonkey1111
05-02-2014, 13:59
well, coors does not electronically screen every person, so no, they don't fit that precise definition--yet. next year would be completely different.
if you don't want to be around drunk people, then sit in one of the alcohol-free family sections. see, problem solved. if you are concerned with getting to your car, park in one of the lots closest to the field. you may pay more, but you've limited your exposure. or, try a day game. or, if you refuse to go some where that carry isn't allowed, suck it up and just don't go.
.455_Hunter
05-02-2014, 14:36
If you are concerned with getting to your car, park in one of the lots closest to the field. you may pay more, but you've limited your exposure.
Yup- Not really concerned about INSIDE the stadium. Pretty low chance that something will occur, and if it does, is a little CCW piece going to be of any use??? The main issue is the walk back to the car at 11:00 pm on a Friday/Saturday summer night, especially if you had to park in Timbuktu.
Paying extra for the "A Lot" is not a bad investment.
I wish the law stated that any venue mandating disarmament was REQUIRED to provide non-hassle secure storage for any patron during the duration of the event.
.455_Hunter
05-03-2014, 23:54
Well...
We went to the game tonight and parked in the "A Lot". Like a good little progressive, I locked my I-frame Terrier in the SUV and walked feeling naked towards the stadium. The "A Gate" at the end of the parking lot causeway has no fixed metal detectors, just one dude with a wand who checked only one person out of five lanes the whole time we were processing through. I should have just left it in my pocket.
funkymonkey1111
05-04-2014, 09:09
Well...
We went to the game tonight and parked in the "A Lot". Like a good little progressive, I locked my I-frame Terrier in the SUV and walked feeling naked towards the stadium. The "A Gate" at the end of the parking lot causeway has no fixed metal detectors, just one dude with a wand who checked only one person out of five lanes the whole time we were processing through. I should have just left it in my pocket.
well, at least you saw a good game!
.455_Hunter
05-04-2014, 15:33
well, at least you saw a good game!
NO DOUBT! How many times do you get to see:
- The Rockies come back from a 6-0 deficit
- An eight run inning with a grand slam
- 21 combined runs
- A walk-off two run homer
ALL IN THE SAME GAME!
It was fun...
funkymonkey1111
05-04-2014, 17:48
NO DOUBT! How many times do you get to see:
- The Rockies come back from a 6-0 deficit
- An eight run inning with a grand slam
- 21 combined runs
- A walk-off two run homer
ALL IN THE SAME GAME!
It was fun...
the game is rarely out of reach at coors--i try to stay until the end if i can
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