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Blossom End Rot on all my tomatoes!
SHIT!
[Mad]
Picked peaches from a backyard tree this morning. This was the first year in many that I didn't prune the tree and thin the fruit this spring so we had lots of small fruit. It might have worked for the better since in most years the birds take or damage most of the fruit before it's ripe to pick. I should net the trees but never get around to it. This year the birds only got the top layer and we harvested enough for a year. Like with the apricots we freeze and bag it for many uses like on salads, roasted on skewers with veggies and meat over the grill, peach cobbler, peach & yogurt smoothies, peach cordial, peach wine, etc. You can eat better by growing your own.
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Nice looking peaches!
Can anyone identify this plant for me? I believe it was something grown on purpose years ago and grows again year after year. I broke open a stalk and it smelled a bit like horseradish.
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Didn't realize the picture was out of focus and the plant is 100 miles away so we'll have to make due with this. Here is the base when broken off close to the ground.
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jhood001
08-15-2016, 21:15
Nice looking peaches!
Can anyone identify this plant for me? I believe it was something grown on purpose years ago and grows again year after year. I broke open a stalk and it smelled a bit like horseradish.
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Didn't realize the picture was out of focus and the plant is 100 miles away so we'll have to make due with this. Here is the base when broken off close to the ground.
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Looks like horseradish, smells like horseradish...
Dig up some of the root and toss it in a food processor.
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Beets, variety of peppers, variety of tomato, beans, snap peas, eggplant, pickling cucumber, raspberry, strawberry, zucchini, variety of carrots, kale, onion, lettuce, parsley, rosemary, chard, cucumber, potato, marigold. All from seed except tomato starts, 3 pepper starts, 2 eggplant starts, 1 raspberry and 2 rosemary starts. A little organic fertilizer and epsom salt, sun, water. No chemy boosts or miracle anything.
Nice work. My garden was all starts I bought very late in the season and everything is pretty small comparatively.
Which herb is this? You'd think since it is in our garden that we'd know, but we don't. Doesn't quite look like pictures of thyme, and doesn't quite look like pictures of rosemary. Is it Dill maybe?
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I think it may be dill. Dill has that fronding thing that goes on with its leaves. Rosemary looks like a little fir tree and has a very distinctive aroma. Take a little of the leaves between your fingers and mash it- does it smell like dill?
I've just been eating it, but it doesn't taste like much.
Fresh herbs don't pack the same punch that dried herbs do, which is why you have to use ore of them.
I googled the image for dill plant, and it doesn't really look like one. I don't know what you've been eating.
I grabbed a bunch and smashed it up and it think it Might have tasted like dill, but I realized I've never eaten dried dill either. We're sure it's not a weed because it's planted strategically. Oh well, at least it's growing well. My wife got jealous that I bought all the plants and set everything up, so she went and bought a bunch of seeds from the dollar store and planted them all, in August. She knew it was late, but she didn't care. This was one of this seeds. Surprisingly. Perry much everything she planted is growing very well. Most of it won't have time to do anything, but the herbs and lettuce have worked out well.
Update. The above pictured plant turned out to be whatever this is pictured below.
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Blossom End Rot on all my tomatoes!
SHIT!
[Mad]
Make a slurry of a handful of garden lime and a 5 gallons of water and water your tomatoes with it. Fix 'er right up! Won't reverse the ones that are already rotted, cut the ends off with a knife.
Update on my garden this year. My rain barrels were dry most of the year... I can count on one hand the days I got measurable rain. S
- Sunchokes did not so great this year... I got enough for a meal, but the rest were small. replanted them.
- Tomatoes did not as well this year as last.
- My Rocky Mountain Painted corn did okay. I mixed corn from last year with corn that I bought... hopefully I will make a local hybrid.
- Got two peaches from new trees...
- 100+ jelly jars of jelly from the grapes this year and still have about 5 dozen to make.
- Raspberries and Blackberries did well, 60 or so jam jars this year.
- Chopped down my pear and plum tree... bummer.
- Scarlet runner beans did better this year than last I think it was the placement of the beans ... less sun this year for them. 1 pint of dried beans from 12 beans.
- Cukes did great... didn't ferment any pickles this year had no time :-(
- Got about 8 - 5 gallon buckets of apples...
Got the salad mixes/kale and chard in the ground and built some cold frames... gonna see how long I can have salad.
Probably last year of gardening for me... not enough time and I can't do it all by myself.
Looked up Blossom End Rot, and our Golden Girl tomatoes definitely had that. It was a bummer. All the other tomatoes (juliets and a few romas) did very well. Corn completely failed after starting off strong.
Make a slurry of a handful of garden lime and a 5 gallons of water and water your tomatoes with it. Fix 'er right up! Won't reverse the ones that are already rotted, cut the ends off with a knife.
Update on my garden this year. My rain barrels were dry most of the year... I can count on one hand the days I got measurable rain. S
- Sunchokes did not so great this year... I got enough for a meal, but the rest were small. replanted them.
- Tomatoes did not as well this year as last.
- My Rocky Mountain Painted corn did okay. I mixed corn from last year with corn that I bought... hopefully I will make a local hybrid.
- Got two peaches from new trees...
- 100+ jelly jars of jelly from the grapes this year and still have about 5 dozen to make.
- Raspberries and Blackberries did well, 60 or so jam jars this year.
- Chopped down my pear and plum tree... bummer.
- Scarlet runner beans did better this year than last I think it was the placement of the beans ... less sun this year for them. 1 pint of dried beans from 12 beans.
- Cukes did great... didn't ferment any pickles this year had no time :-(
- Got about 8 - 5 gallon buckets of apples...
Got the salad mixes/kale and chard in the ground and built some cold frames... gonna see how long I can have salad.
Probably last year of gardening for me... not enough time and I can't do it all by myself.
Thanks for the info!
hollohas
10-24-2016, 16:29
Warm fall has been good. Picked this yesterday...
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This weather has been ridiculous. Still harvesting raspberries this afternoon...
Still harvesting tomatoes, even though I turned the water off a few weeks ago.
encorehunter
01-15-2017, 16:38
Now that we are moved to the country and work on the house has slowed, I have begun work on a terraced hillside garden. The slope is SSW in direction, and should have good sunlight for 8-10 hours a day during summer. I have cut about 30 trees out and am working on clearing the oak brush. I still have another dozen trees to take out from the top of the hills where I am planning on putting the dwarf orchard. Im planning on using the trees I cut as the walls for the terraces. A friend has a lot of aged cow manure I can have for free, and he will load it with the tractor. When I said I wanted 40-50 truck loads, he asked when I wanted to pick it up.
I have been amending our lower field to grow grass for a pasture. The soil tests are all showing ph at about an 8.0. The nutrients are there, but lacking. I have put 4 yards of dry pine needles, 2 yards of goat manure and straw, and a yard of chicken manure onto the field and disced it in. We have quite a bit of clay, so Im trying to break it up with the organic material. In the garden, I'm going to bring in some topsoil, but mostly I will be mixing our clay with the manure, then mulching the plants with pine needles. My biggest hope is to get the orchard established for the years to come. I have plenty of flat area above where the garden will be, but it will get more and more difficult to get water the further I go from the house.
Perfect bump timing. Is there anything we should be doing to our gardens this time of year?
Encore, post up some before pictures.
You should be planting stuff.
Well, I pulled all the plants and raked everything up, but I wasn't sure if I should be spreading a winter fertilizer or something. I have a compost pile, but it rarely, if ever gets mixed. I imagine I'll just let it sit all winter and hopefully it'll mostly be ready in spring.
Have you gotten your seed catalogs yet? I received my catalogs from Baker's Creek and Johnny's seeds...and I even got a catalog from a nursery that sells fruit bushes and trees. (I can't recall the name of the place offhand.)
Just saw new seed displays going up at Home Depot last night.
Just saw new seed displays going up at Home Depot last night.
You should sign up and get those magazines. There's a ton of good information as far as when to plant, what the plants prefer as far as soil pH, and they are a far greater deal (moneywise and variety) than what you can get at Home Depot.
Baker's Creek Heirloom seeds: http://www.rareseeds.com/
Johnny's Seeds: http://www.johnnyseeds.com/?source=google_johnny_seeds&source=google_johnny_seeds&gclid=CJ2ZiMTCzNECFUi5wAodWToD_g
hollohas
01-18-2017, 21:27
+1 for Bakers Creek Seeds. Very good variety.
We're still harvesting lemons, limes, and tomatoes from the greenhouse. Soooooo much better than the tasteless crap in the grocery stores.
Is there a small lemon or lime tree that one can grow?
hunterhawk
01-19-2017, 02:21
I want avocados...i eat them like they are going out of style. Would love to be able to grow one of those...any pictures of your greenhouse?
Is there a small lemon or lime tree that one can grow?
We have 3 small lemons, 2 small limes, and a significantly larger lime tree in the greenhouse. The little ones are ~2-3 feet tall, the big lime is around 6 feet tall. They all came from local greenhouses, except one of the lemon trees which my wife started from a seed. With our setup, they bear fruit pretty much year round. Watch what type of lime tree you get, as our big one has some wicked sharp 3 inch thorns.
I want avocados...i eat them like they are going out of style. Would love to be able to grow one of those...any pictures of your greenhouse?
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More info on the build in this thread: https://www.ar-15.co/threads/151720-How-I-spent-my-summer?highlight=spent+summer
encorehunter
01-19-2017, 10:45
Does anyone use Burgess seed company? It is the only magazine I receive right now and their prices seem pretty reasonable.
Look for Exciting Gardens 1800 Bloomington. IL. They have options.
I'm considering planting some Hazelnut trees. Fruit trees have bee a crap shoot with the late frosts, Hail, wind and rodents.
Kiwi, Asparagus and Artichokes survived last year. We are waiting for Spring to see how they fared.
Researching for my garden next year and how to improve.
I need to use techniques for window planter gardens and not regular gardens. Need better quality seeds and start earlier, and start with pregrown tomato plants as from seed did not grow fruit until first freeze. Probably need to add some clay or other moisture retaining device so soil stays wet longer. The green onions never grew beyond 4" tall, should have been the star of the garden. Need different carrots. Cucumbers may need more sun than the planter location provides. Mo more cabage, the caterpillars killed it.
And for those of you who want to automate your gardens check out farmbot.io
clodhopper
01-19-2017, 12:00
And for those of you who want to automate your gardens check out farmbot.io
While probably the ultimate in lazy for a gardener, or appeals to the super tech geek, $3100 for what appears to be a small planter box is pretty steep. Even if expandable, still expensive.
ChunkyMonkey
04-16-2017, 15:15
To the top!
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GilpinGuy
04-16-2017, 21:48
I'm tempted to start getting stuff in the ground up here, but I know better. More cold and snow will come.
I did take advantage of the warm weather and no snow (we usually have A LOT on the ground still) to prepare my beds a little. I mixed up the quail poop/straw mix I laid down in the fall (covered with a tarp all winter) and it looks awesome now. I put another few inches of quail poop and straw on top, hoping it will break down by mid-May when we can safely plant up here. If not, I'll mix the shit out out of all of it and use the free mulch from the county on top.
I'm still a soil newb, but the mix looks, feels and smells awesome.
Thinking about planting now as well. My compost pile looks like it's finally starting to do something. Probably because I've finally decided to somewhat regularly rotate it. Would have been nice if it were ready now, since it's been sitting for a year now.
Oh yeah, I also put in a sprinkler system this year as well.
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I still have a lot of tilling to do but I have spinach and lettuce growing in one section.
"I'm considering planting some Hazelnut trees. Fruit trees have bee a crap shoot with the late frosts, Hail, wind and rodents. " -earplug
Last year I was researching nut trees and the guy at the nursery told me the altitude keeps them from fruiting here. Plumbs grow good here because they bloom late. I also have had lots of luck with Wealthy Apple. They were developed in Minnesota for cold temperatures. We only get peaches some years, but they are so good it's worth having one.
I buy a lot of my seeds from this company. They have a great variety of non GMO seeds.
http://www.rareseeds.com/
Researching for my garden next year and how to improve.
I need to use techniques for window planter gardens and not regular gardens. Need better quality seeds and start earlier, and start with pregrown tomato plants as from seed did not grow fruit until first freeze. Probably need to add some clay or other moisture retaining device so soil stays wet longer. The green onions never grew beyond 4" tall, should have been the star of the garden. Need different carrots. Cucumbers may need more sun than the planter location provides. Mo more cabage, the caterpillars killed it.
And for those of you who want to automate your gardens check out farmbot.io
These cucumbers grew great for me several years. They are sweet if they get enough water and also make great pickles.
http://www.rareseeds.com/delikatesse-cucumber/
http://www.rareseeds.com/muscade-carrot/
These carrots grew well for us and are tasty. Cover the seeds with a piece of cardboard until they sprout to keep them from washing away.
For tomatoes, choose a plum or cherry variety to get earlier fruit. As far as nice big tomatoes go, I have grown Brandywine and Cour do Bue with lots of success, and they get pretty big but I can harvest them Sept-early October.
My cabbage got eaten too. I do better with kale and mustard greens.
Much luck to you this year!
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I got to use my little power mate cultivater today. It made fast work of some big old piles of compost and is light enough for me to lift it from level to level.
Have been harvesting my Asparagus, Spinach, Parsnips..
Kiwi and Artichokes came back from the winter, Planted more this year.
Planted more Artichokes.
Have Tomatoes, Peppers, Squash, Beans, more Parsnips in the ground.
I planted four rhubarb today, just off the edge of our septic field. They will have full sun most all day. I have another that I planted about 6 years ago where it gets plenty of ground water but it doesn't get enough sun. I might transplant it tomorrow.
In prepping the holes for the rhubarb I fertilized with organic moose berries gathered from the yard. So I'll call it moose rhubarb, and later this summer I'll make moose rhubarb pie and moose rhubarb cordial. [Wiggle]
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We have 3 small lemons, 2 small limes, and a significantly larger lime tree in the greenhouse. The little ones are ~2-3 feet tall, the big lime is around 6 feet tall. They all came from local greenhouses, except one of the lemon trees which my wife started from a seed. With our setup, they bear fruit pretty much year round. Watch what type of lime tree you get, as our big one has some wicked sharp 3 inch thorns.
Sounds awesome. Are the one's that are not in the greenhouse planted or in pots?
Sounds awesome. Are the one's that are not in the greenhouse planted or in pots?
They're all potted, the smaller ones in about 5 gallon pots, and the big lime tree in about a 15 gallon one. We move them in during the colder part of the year, and outside from about mid-May to mid-September.
I also just ordered her some Cavendish dwarf banana trees, so we'll see how that works out.
They're all potted, the smaller ones in about 5 gallon pots, and the big lime tree in about a 15 gallon one. We move them in during the colder part of the year, and outside from about mid-May to mid-September.
I also just ordered her some Cavendish dwarf banana trees, so we'll see how that works out.
Thanks, I'll have to give that a try.
So we just bought a house and were going to do raised beds. After calculating cost of materials, I asked the wife how much it would be to simply buy the projected yield at the grocery store. Guess what? Not worth it.
Reminds me of reloading. Sounds great until you test theory against excel numbers
There is nothing cathartic about maintaining groceries. Also, the upfront cost of the garden should be a first year thing. You're still most likely right though.
Much like reloading, quality is as much or more of an issue than price per. The difference between our tomatoes and citrus compared to the stuff in the grocery stores that was picked a month before it was ripe so that it would look good in the store is astounding. Store bought tomatoes taste like they are made of paper mache. Did you know that tree ripened limes are actually orange, and much sweeter than what you're used to, while remaining very "limey" tasting?
There is nothing cathartic about maintaining groceries. Also, the upfront cost of the garden should be a first year thing. You're still most likely right though.
This is the cost for the raised beds (4x8) and top soil (14 cu ft per bed).
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Since most grown vegetables are one time harvest, I cannot fathom that we would grow even $100 grocery store worth of vegetables.
Raised beds are a one-time cost. I dunno about the soil, if we could reuse or if we did compost and next year would be 0 cost for year (assuming we account all cost for year only, zeroing out at end of planting year).
Either way, I would likely have to have what, 2-3 years to even break even?
I'd have to ask my wife to project min/max yield to determine where our break even point is, but most vegetables are pretty dang cheap.
hunterhawk
05-05-2017, 10:36
Yup, no pestisides in mine, and the taste of product makes the food 100 times better...plus who likes going to the store? I hate when the time comes when the garden dies down...all these people with their mj grow houses, im just like i would have an actual indoor garden if i could!
Last year, I would come home every day after work and eat tomatoes and basil from the garden, for months. Basically a caprice salad without the cheese. Some things are a one time harvest, other things you habe more than you can ever eat. That's when you get into canning.
Last year, I would come home every day after work and eat tomatoes and basil from the garden, for months. Basically a caprice salad without the cheese. Some things are a one time harvest, other things you habe more than you can ever eat. That's when you get into canning.
Have canner, will can. Doubt there'd be anything to can. To make gardening worth it, I feel like we would have to till the yard.
How big is your garden?
I think it depends if you like to garden. Playing in the dirt calms me, it is satisfying to see results of your work, and the taste is way better as mentioned before. Now when the deer eat all your Zuccini it is not fun, but other than that I get a lot of satisfaction out of it. Also not sure where you get your groceries, but since Rancho Liborio went out of business near me, it is hard to find cheap produce and we go through a ton each week.
Have canner, will can. Doubt there'd be anything to can. To make gardening worth it, I feel like we would have to till the yard.
How big is your garden?
Mine is about 150 sq/ft, but to say I'm an amateur would be a gross overstatement. We grew a LOT of cherry sized tomatoes and zucchini last year. Someone who Inge what they were doing would habe had a lot more useable produce. I don't even want to talk about how much money I have into that garden either. Good thing it makes me calm, haha.
I would estimate mine is about 180 square ft. It can grow a lot. The quality of the vegetables is very good if you have good soil and you can grow many variaties that you will never find at any store. Compost. I am finding that raising rabbits works really well because they make excellent compost and eat a crap load of weeds. Then you can eat the rabbits too. The key to making your garden pay off is to actually replace your grocery store diet with the food you grow which can mean more in meal prep time, and growing through all seasons. I can usually get something to grow here except Dec through February unless you have a hoop house but even then it just sort of maintains. You have to experiment with which things to grow and how much of it.
I saw a lot of people buying tomato plants today.
I planted four rhubarb today, just off the edge of our septic field. They will have full sun most all day. I have another that I planted about 6 years ago where it gets plenty of ground water but it doesn't get enough sun. I might transplant it tomorrow.
In prepping the holes for the rhubarb I fertilized with organic moose berries gathered from the yard. So I'll call it moose rhubarb, and later this summer I'll make moose rhubarb pie and moose rhubarb cordial. [Wiggle]
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Will you share your recipe for rhubarb cordial?
So we just bought a house and were going to do raised beds. After calculating cost of materials, I asked the wife how much it would be to simply buy the projected yield at the grocery store. Guess what? Not worth it.
Reminds me of reloading. Sounds great until you test theory against excel numbers
You may enjoy this book.
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I don't know why people invest in raised beds. I just started digging. This book actually has a method for digging raised beds which don't require wood or brick to hold them up. I started out with this and used it for many years until my husband got sick of me digging up more of the lawn every year and invested in those landscape bricks which was a waste of money but it looks pretty. And now I have boundries.
I chose raised beds as an alternative to leveling my yard and building a retaining wall.
newracer
05-07-2017, 17:06
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Wife is on the way to planting today. Some rain slowed us down.
newracer
05-07-2017, 18:15
I got stopped because of the rain. Need to plant some cantaloupe and watermelon along the fence line.
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I rented a small rototiller for the garden, then used it to tear up a bunch of areas to lay sod. Everyone in probably a 10 mile radius is out of sod today. May get lucky and get some tomorrow.
Go to the sod Farm, the Home Depot lowes stuff is usually old.
We went to the a place that was only yard materials and they said they ran out early this morning and are trying to arrange a shipment for tomorrow. They're gong to call me when it arrives. I need about 350 sq/ft.
Garden went in yesterday and we're hoping there isn't any hail to flatten it this evening...
Garden went in yesterday here as well. Wife put every loose board, tarp, whatever around the house to cover it all. I'm not sure if it needed it or not since it was all seeds. I came home and removed everything, then it started raining hard again so I got to put it all back...
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Here is my organic lunch. I will probably fry some sweet potato to go with it.
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This is also part of my garden.
I tried to download a picture of what my actual garden looks like but it's not downloading. The important thing is there's yummy stuff in there.
We went to the a place that was only yard materials and they said they ran out early this morning and are trying to arrange a shipment for tomorrow. They're gong to call me when it arrives. I need about 350 sq/ft.
Colorado Turf at 132nd/Sable are good people. They are the farm, so no old stuff.
Will you share your recipe for rhubarb cordial?
Sure. We've made many fruit cordials or liqueurs over the years but last year was the first I've used rhubarb--from stalks a neighbor gave us. I made one with vodka, another with Buffalo Trace bourbon, and one vodka batch I blended with a peach liqueur that I'd made. I don't think I've done any batch the same, it's more what I have on hand or what seems like it would taste good. I like rhubarb but I didn't expect the liqueur to be very drinkable, but it was surprisingly good!
Liqueurs can be made from most any fruit by filling a wide mouth jar with fruit and topping up with liquor, then letting it steep in a refrigerator for a few months. Some people use Ever-clear but I find it too harsh, and it takes longer to mellow. Vodka, rum, bourbon work well, even gin and tequila. Also use or add triple sec, or Grand Marnier, etc. for richer flavor. Add sugar, the amount depending on the batch size and sweetness of the fruit. Tart fruit like rhubarb, chokecherry and wild raspberries will take more sugar. Lots of recipes on the web like this one which uses vodka, Grand Marnier and sugar: http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/rhubarb-liqueur
Don't be afraid to get creative, it's almost impossible to screw up good booze, good fruit and sugar. But aging the liqueur a few months to a year will help integrate and mellow the flavors.
Steep the liquor in the fruit for 1-3 months or so, then drain, strain and filter if possible. We usually bottle and cork in 375 ml wine bottles, but sometimes use clear beer bottles with a capper.
The rhubarb I planted last week won't be harvested until next year. (It wasn't helped when a bear dug up two of the plants the next night!) On Saturday, a friend brought us 21 lbs. of rhubarb from her garden in Oregon so we went to work making rhubarb sauce, apricot-rhubarb pie, and rhubarb cordial. From the sauce we made and served rhubarb margaritas. Yea. We don't have our large mouth jars here now so we started a batch of liqueur in a bottle of tequila we had on hand. I'll make more soon when I can acquire more wide mouth jars.
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Love the bunny! We have a wild mountain cottontail that comes every morning by the dining window for sliced apple and cracked corn.
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This is also part of my garden.
I tried to download a picture of what my actual garden looks like but it's not downloading. The important thing is there's yummy stuff in there.
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Here is my organic lunch. I will probably fry some sweet potato to go with it.
My wife would love it if I could grow all that.
My wife would love it if I could grow all that.
William, you can! Most of that is Red Russian Kale, which never seems to get bugs on it and grows in winter and summer. If it bolts, i just pick off the flowers and eat them too. I never pick the plants. Just the leaves. They justkeep producing and get huge! Also there is spinach in there whis is also pretty easy to grow and cilantro which came up on it's own since mine went to seed last summer.
http://www.rareseeds.com/search/?F_Keyword=Red%20Russian%20kale
Sure. We've made many fruit cordials or liqueurs over the years but last year was the first I've used rhubarb--from stalks a neighbor gave us. I made one with vodka, another with Buffalo Trace bourbon, and one vodka batch I blended with a peach liqueur that I'd made. I don't think I've done any batch the same, it's more what I have on hand or what seems like it would taste good. I like rhubarb but I didn't expect the liqueur to be very drinkable, but it was surprisingly good!
Liqueurs can be made from most any fruit by filling a wide mouth jar with fruit and topping up with liquor, then letting it steep in a refrigerator for a few months. Some people use Ever-clear but I find it too harsh, and it takes longer to mellow. Vodka, rum, bourbon work well, even gin and tequila. Also use or add triple sec, or Grand Marnier, etc. for richer flavor. Add sugar, the amount depending on the batch size and sweetness of the fruit. Tart fruit like rhubarb, chokecherry and wild raspberries will take more sugar. Lots of recipes on the web like this one which uses vodka, Grand Marnier and sugar: http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/rhubarb-liqueur
Don't be afraid to get creative, it's almost impossible to screw up good booze, good fruit and sugar. But aging the liqueur a few months to a year will help integrate and mellow the flavors.
Steep the liquor in the fruit for 1-3 months or so, then drain, strain and filter if possible. We usually bottle and cork in 375 ml wine bottles, but sometimes use clear beer bottles with a capper.
The rhubarb I planted last week won't be harvested until next year. (It wasn't helped when a bear dug up two of the plants the next night!) On Saturday, a friend brought us 21 lbs. of rhubarb from her garden in Oregon so we went to work making rhubarb sauce, apricot-rhubarb pie, and rhubarb cordial. From the sauce we made and served rhubarb margaritas. Yea. We don't have our large mouth jars here now so we started a batch of liqueur in a bottle of tequila we had on hand. I'll make more soon when I can acquire more wide mouth jars.
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Thank you very much Hummer. I will try this when I get my rhubarb going again as I am moving and only taking a small one with me for propagation.
One year I made rhubarb butter by cooking it down into a sauce with sugar and then cooking it even more on low heat to get rid of most of the water. Then I canned it in a hot water bath. It was very nice. I would say to eat it on pancakes but I think most of it got eaten straight, with a spoon.
I think your forest is very pretty. Good luck with the mooses and bears!
William, you can! Most of that is Red Russian Kale, which never seems to get bugs on it and grows in winter and summer. If it bolts, i just pick off the flowers and eat them too. I never pick the plants. Just the leaves. They justkeep producing and get huge! Also there is spinach in there whis is also pretty easy to grow and cilantro which came up on it's own since mine went to seed last summer.
http://www.rareseeds.com/search/?F_Keyword=Red%20Russian%20kale
Will give those a try, thank you! I should have better luck once my fence is finished and I can keep the deer out.
Will give those a try, thank you! I should have better luck once my fence is finished and I can keep the deer out.
I would imagine it is pretty hard to grow things with deer around. : )
Thank you very much Hummer. I will try this when I get my rhubarb going again as I am moving and only taking a small one with me for propagation.
One year I made rhubarb butter by cooking it down into a sauce with sugar and then cooking it even more on low heat to get rid of most of the water. Then I canned it in a hot water bath. It was very nice. I would say to eat it on pancakes but I think most of it got eaten straight, with a spoon.
I think your forest is very pretty. Good luck with the mooses and bears!
Cooked rhubarb with it's high acidity and added sugar syrup will last a long time refrigerated, even without canning. Of course, canning is a good way to take advantage of fruits and veggies when they're abundant. My grandma had a perennial crop of rhubarb in her Denver garden and I grew to love the sauces, pies, syrups and jams that she made from it. I imagine she might have made rhubarb liqueur too, but she wouldn't have told anyone, or labeled the bottles. Nana was a closet sipper who re-bottled rum into plastic containers so it wouldn't look like she kept alcohol in the house. She lived through the Great Depression and her experiences led her to build a large basement cold cellar room filled with home canned goods.
We picked up a couple 3 qt. jars and added to the rhubarb cordials in making. One is dry with tequila only, no sugar yet, one uses vodka with Grand Marnier and sugar syrup, and another is with rum and triple sec with sugar syrup. We'll see how they come out in a few months.
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BTW, I have neighbors here in the mountains who have rhubarb plants that I know are more that 35 years old. It's a trouble free and abundant food producer. And, I've never seen evidence that wildlife eat it.
Cooked rhubarb with it's high acidity and added sugar syrup will last a long time refrigerated, even without canning. Of course, canning is a good way to take advantage of fruits and veggies when they're abundant. My grandma had a perennial crop of rhubarb in her Denver garden and I grew to love the sauces, pies, syrups and jams that she made from it. I imagine she might have made rhubarb liqueur too, but she wouldn't have told anyone, or labeled the bottles. Nana was a closet sipper who re-bottled rum into plastic containers so it wouldn't look like she kept alcohol in the house. She lived through the Great Depression and her experiences led her to build a large basement cold cellar room filled with home canned goods.
We picked up a couple 3 qt. jars and added to the rhubarb cordials in making. One is dry with tequila only, no sugar yet, one uses vodka with Grand Marnier and sugar syrup, and another is with rum and triple sec with sugar syrup. We'll see how they come out in a few months.
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g292/COHummer/Home/Rhubarb-3-amigos-cordials_zpsbvqywqxz.jpg
BTW, I have neighbors here in the mountains who have rhubarb plants that I know are more that 35 years old. It's a trouble free and abundant food producer. And, I've never seen evidence that wildlife eat it.
Grandmas are lovely people.
These look really fun to make. I can't wait to get moved so I can start my garden again. I will have to try rhubarb up on my mountain property too. I have been trying to think of ways to grow things up there. Lots of deer. I really like the way you seem to be forest gardening. I was thinking about doing that too and wondering if any of my herbs would survive sheltered by the trees.
tactical_2012
05-13-2017, 20:41
Deer resistance Vegetables
https://wirelessdeerfence.com/deer-resistant-vegetables/
Deer resistance Vegetables
https://wirelessdeerfence.com/deer-resistant-vegetables/
Vegetables Against Deer? There is a protest group for everything.
Deer resistance Vegetables
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Thanks Irving. This is very helpful.
Cooked rhubarb with it's high acidity and added sugar syrup will last a long time refrigerated, even without canning. Of course, canning is a good way to take advantage of fruits and veggies when they're abundant. My grandma had a perennial crop of rhubarb in her Denver garden and I grew to love the sauces, pies, syrups and jams that she made from it. I imagine she might have made rhubarb liqueur too, but she wouldn't have told anyone, or labeled the bottles. Nana was a closet sipper who re-bottled rum into plastic containers so it wouldn't look like she kept alcohol in the house. She lived through the Great Depression and her experiences led her to build a large basement cold cellar room filled with home canned goods.
We picked up a couple 3 qt. jars and added to the rhubarb cordials in making. One is dry with tequila only, no sugar yet, one uses vodka with Grand Marnier and sugar syrup, and another is with rum and triple sec with sugar syrup. We'll see how they come out in a few months.
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g292/COHummer/Home/Rhubarb-3-amigos-cordials_zpsbvqywqxz.jpg
BTW, I have neighbors here in the mountains who have rhubarb plants that I know are more that 35 years old. It's a trouble free and abundant food producer. And, I've never seen evidence that wildlife eat it.
Wish we lived closer to you two. The things I could learn by watching all the magic that happens bubbling away in those jars/carboys, or in this case just soaking away I guess... :)
I might have one of those old rhubarb plants in my back yard. I mowed over it every year I've lived here except last year. It grew pretty big, and I tried some of the raw fruit, but otherwise I don't know what to do with it.
EDIT: Wife planted all the seeds on Sunday, right before the hail. We were mostly out of the hail danger zone. It would have destroyed plants, but we only had seeds. A lot of the stuff is sprouting already. What I think are radishes must have sprouted in only about 4 days. They are already off the races. I put in more sod tonight and the flowers planted in the front are taking off as well. Hopefully I'm looking at having a nice looking yard this year. I fertilized both the front and back (back didn't really need it) and everything is greening up nicely.
Wish we lived closer to you two. The things I could learn by watching all the magic that happens bubbling away in those jars/carboys, or in this case just soaking away I guess... :)
It's rewarding to make things from your own garden but I think the magic comes from sipping what's in the jars. [Beer]
I might have one of those old rhubarb plants in my back yard. I mowed over it every year I've lived here except last year. It grew pretty big, and I tried some of the raw fruit, but otherwise I don't know what to do with it.
If it's still going you could transplant it to a corner of your garden. It likes plenty of water and full sun. Raw rhubarb isn't really palatable, kind of like raw potato, and the leaves are poisonous. The stalks need to be cooked, boiled in water with sugar, or baked. Combine it with strawberries, peaches or apricots. Rhubarb is in some grocery stores now at about $4/lb. A little bit goes a long ways.
We're still working on the 21 lbs. our friend brought us. Mrs. Hummer made a rhubarb custard yesterday.
We planted on Mothers Day. The wife likes to garden but has a black thumb so it's an interesting ballance. My elevated bed garden now has corn, tomato, basil, snap peas, green onion and cucumber. It's crowded, and we will see what happens with the corn. A separate pot with some strawberries was planted too, and I hope the dog leaves it alone. This year we bought starter plants, last year we grew from seeds but started them too late. This made the tomatoes fruit just before the freeze.
The 1/4" black rubber water "sweat" line is a bit anemic. Anyone know if they need yearly replacement?
hunterhawk
05-15-2017, 21:07
Watch the weather later this week..possible snow and cold temps..argh
One year I had tomato plants in the ground early. When it snowed or frosted I took some empty two liter soda bottles, filled them with water and made a circle with them around each tomato plant. Cover with a piece of plastic paint drop cloth or similar material. Tomatoes pulled through like champs.
newracer
05-30-2017, 18:35
The rabbits are attacking my melons and pumpkins. It's a call to arms!!!!
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05-30-2017, 19:37
Still getting frost up here. [gohome]
hunterhawk
05-31-2017, 00:37
I was going to say i have a pellet gun for sale but i see you have that beast!
The rabbits are attacking my melons and pumpkins. It's a call to arms!!!!
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tactical_2012
06-14-2017, 21:32
Been working on cultivating my soil for my garden tilled the ground last fall and added 2 large piles of manure in it then. Earlier in the spring I broadcast spread a cover crop to add more nutrients to the soil. Today I tilled it. Hopefully next year we will get the garden going it is 48' x 24' going to put up a 6' fence to keep critters out and also going to build a 16' L x 12' W greenhouse in the southwest corner.
hollohas
07-30-2017, 08:41
Any ideas what these are? They are killing my
squash.
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Found it. They are called squash bugs (yeah, original name) and they are bad news. Ugh. I'm on a mission to kill them all.
Neem Oil pretty much kills most pests and is safe for a lot of things. I make a poor man's neem oil with water and a little bit of Canola Oil in a spray bottle. Shake like heck and spray all over .
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