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Hey guys, any educated input on the Jeep Cherokee TrailHawk? Thinking of getting one! Please pardon me if this has already been a discussion on the forums but I did search for it.....and Im a Newbie! Thinking of getting the 3.2 V6 winter package and Uconnect? Your input is much appreciated!
hurley842002
04-08-2014, 19:01
Just looked it up, 9 speed auto tranny sounds interesting, looks comfy. With that said, I see nothing "trail" about it. Personally the only real Jeep still produced is the Wrangler. I suppose it depends on your intended use, if you are just seeking a smooth comfy DD it may be perfect, but I wouldn't take that where I take my Tacoma. Sorry no educated response from me, only opinion.
Thanks for the feed back Hurley, Jeep does clarify it as "TrailRated"...but with better mpg with the 9 speed. I wont be doing any hardcore climbing with it.....but I could if I wanted to : )
Rooskibar03
04-08-2014, 19:22
You do realize "TrailRated" is nothing more than marketing, right?
As long as you're not doing anything more than a dirt road to the trail head your ok, but if you're gonna wheel, get a wrangler.
tmleadr03
04-08-2014, 19:26
Too new for real imput.
I was behind a black one the other day. I saw the badge and the rear tow hook painted red. Looked like a lot of marketing to me.
If you plan on doing ANY trail riding I would consider something else. The new Cherokee isn't much more "trail rated" than a subaru outback. Do some research on the platform it is based on and you will see it is just a big car with Jeep written on it. I'm not a jeep fan but the new Cherokee is a disgrace to the name.
Well I hope it can do a little more than a dirt road to the trail head but we will see! Not looking for a Wrangler as this will also be my travel vehicle....I grew up In Wyoming and travel there often!
BPTactical
04-08-2014, 19:45
Too new for real imput.
This- never buy a first year model, it's gonna have bugs and let them work it out first.
To get the trail rated badge, they claim the vehicle has passed all of their test categories on the 17 mile rubicon test trail. Watch the video here:
http://www.jeep.com/en/jeep-capabilities/trail-rated/
btw, you can buy a trail rated badge on eBay for $30.
I hear you...Im hoping they have fixed the "bugs" by now. I think they released it last October!?!? Some people hate the looks of it and some like it....I happen to like it....and im not in a hurry to decide...I love the Jeep Rubicon but not practical for me. Thank you everyone!
Rooskibar03
04-08-2014, 20:04
10 SUVs to avoid 2014
http://wallstcheatsheet.com/business/stock-news/10-suvs-to-steer-clear-of-in-2014.html/?a=viewall (http://wallstcheatsheet.com/business/stock-news/10-suvs-to-steer-clear-of-in-2014.html/?a=viewall)
3 out of 10 are Jeep products. I sell cars for a living and the only Jeep I'd even consider is a Wrangler. Maybe a Grand but those things are north of 50k and for that money I've got lots of options.
blacklabel
04-08-2014, 20:11
Well I hope it can do a little more than a dirt road to the trail head but we will see!
I've seen Outbacks do some decent trails but I still wouldn't expect much out of this new Cherokee. Personally if I was going to get a new SUV, I'd get something that was proven. An Xterra or 4Runner come to mind. They could handle decent trails and still do very well on the highway. Your highway mileage won't be 31 but you also won't be driving a giant penis.
Rooskibar03
04-08-2014, 20:14
I've seen Outbacks do some decent trails but I still wouldn't expect much out of this new Cherokee. Personally if I was going to get a new SUV, I'd get something that was proven. An Xterra or 4Runner come to mind. They could handle decent trails and still do very well on the highway. Your highway mileage won't be 31 but you also won't be driving a giant penis.
But if it's a TrailRated Giant penis is it ok?
funkymonkey1111
04-08-2014, 20:15
consumer reports said they "came away underwhelmed," calling the 9speed transmission "unrefined." they said handling lacks agility , the ride is choppy and visibility is so-so.
and no, the bugs would not be worked out until the next model year at the earliest.
Lol...I dont want to be driving a giant penis haha but it does come with 271 HP and lots of goodies!!
I believe they tested the smaller 2.4 4 banger engine in that report! I read it too in my research.
blacklabel
04-08-2014, 20:22
But if it's a TrailRated Giant penis is it ok?
Only if you saved the coin and bought the badges online. I might have a couple badges somewhere around here from my Liberty if he wants them. Hell, my Liberty did better offroad than the new Cherokee will.
Lol...I dont want to be driving a giant penis haha but it does come with 271 HP and lots of goodies!!
Justify a giant penis anyway you feel necessary. Lol. I'm biased though. I can't believe they badged that thing as a Cherokee.
Now that I am a Mopar guy, I'd go with the Cherokee SRT8 for a traveling vehicle.
hurley842002
04-08-2014, 20:51
Now that I am a Mopar guy, I'd go with the Cherokee SRT8 for a traveling vehicle.
Now THAT would be legit!
Motortrend did a writeup recently. The 9 speed is cool. Not Jeepy enough. Think it shares drive train with the Dart. I read somewhere that jeep is the only all American line up. Every one of their cars is made here.
stevelkinevil
04-08-2014, 21:00
it's just so painfully ugly.
BPTactical
04-08-2014, 21:03
Now that I am a Mopar guy, I'd go with the Cherokee SRT8 for a traveling vehicle.
Booshit!
69 Hemi GTX ragtop.
Denver to Cheyenne in about 40 minutes.
Lucky to have survived it...
HoneyBadger
04-08-2014, 21:03
Meh. Get an Xterra.
Xterras have better offroading specs (ground clearance, approach angle, etc) and better features for a lot less money.
Motortrend did a writeup recently. The 9 speed is cool. Not Jeepy enough. Think it shares drive train with the Dart. I read somewhere that jeep is the only all American line up. Every one of their cars is made here.
Too bad Fiat bought them though. I own an 08 Rubicon, my only complaint is that it has the 3.8 instead of 3.6 engine for the better HP and gas milage. It really is trail rated and all you expect from the name Jeep. These other 'Jeeps' that have been coming out.... Not so much (ya that SRT is sweet though). If you want a concrete jungle queen for Colorado snow and like the look... Its your money.
Now that I am a Mopar guy, I'd go with the Cherokee SRT8 for a traveling vehicle.
So....a Hemi penis.
So....a Hemi penis.
If you're gonna have a penis, it might as well be a hemi.
[Awesom]
WillysWagon
04-08-2014, 21:34
I know the wife wants one bad, but has yet to drive it.
Told her the same thing, wait till next year, never buy Gen 1.
She has a 2007 Libby now.
Waiting on reviews from owners that have had one a while.
Tough crowd here...Im on a budget...Cant afford a SRT or Hemi...I will re-look at the Xterra though....Maybe Ill keep my paid off Subaru that still runs great and buy a new gun and more ammo : ) Thanks all!!
HoneyBadger
04-08-2014, 21:43
Tough crowd here...Im on a budget...Cant afford a SRT or Hemi...I will re-look at the Xterra though....Maybe Ill keep my paid off Subaru that still runs great and buy a new gun and more ammo : ) Thanks all!!
Well, I just sold my 01 silverado for a '14 Xterra and it certainly was nice not having a car payment... Don't get excited and spend a big chunk of $$$ because you are emotional.
streetglideok
04-08-2014, 21:44
The new Cherokee(KL platform) is just a front wheel drive platform. Might as well buy a Ford Escape, or the brand new Explorer with the power steering that fails at 44k miles. I'll stick with my Jeep Liberty, real axle in the rear, and may be IFS in front, it'll still outdo anything the trailhawk will wish it could do.
Motortrend did a writeup recently. The 9 speed is cool. Not Jeepy enough. Think it shares drive train with the Dart. I read somewhere that jeep is the only all American line up. Every one of their cars is made here.
The 15 ‘Most American’ Automobiles of 2014 (http://wallstcheatsheet.com/automobiles/the-15-most-american-automobiles-of-2014.html/?a=viewall)
rockhound
04-09-2014, 07:13
that truck is mall rated for sure,
if you want to do more than a dirt road, that is the wrong vehicle
if you want something comfy and offroad capable get a used landcruiser and spend the 30K you saved on a lift kit, bumpers gears, winch, lockers etc.
This has probably been said already here in the thread but dont have time to read the whole thing.
JEEP started going downhill when they started putting Independent suspension on the front of the vehicles and got rid of the tractor motor known as the Inline 6. The JK in Jeepers 'terms (aka wrangler) is the only REAL JEEP left, even with the wimpy V6. the Rubicon version is the best off the line off road vehicle there is, but you pay out the nose for it. Real JEEPs are built, not bought. :)
I have an XJ (old skool cherokee) got 209,000 on it and runs like a champ, goes anywhere I point it.
If you want a vehicle that is good in the snow on city streets and driving to a trail to watch other people actually wheel, pass this up until the reviews come out. If you have to have a JEEP now and want luxury, get a grand Cherokee.
My .02 cents [Beer]
If you are basing car buying decisions off of Consumer reports, that is kind of like trying to get advice on dating women in San Francisco.
If you are basing car buying decisions off of Consumer reports, that is kind of like trying to get advice on dating women in San Francisco.
Okay that is a good line.................... [ROFL3] [ROFL1]
drift_g35
04-09-2014, 07:37
I just bought a 2014 4runner and I love. They have the trail version that is right around 42000 msrp.
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BREATHER
04-09-2014, 08:00
Looks like an outback......I like my wrangler
The new Cherokee would make a great daily driver especially where I live. The big question mark is the transmission. The ZF 9speed is made by a German company and looks to be used in Land Rover, Honda, and Chrysler front/all wheel drive applications. The Cherokee was the first put in production, and there were software glitches that delayed the car. My sister was looking at it, and I will say the same thing I told her. If you plan to own and sell the car during the warranty period, go for it. If you plan to drive past the warranty period, go with something else. The transmission may be great, but it also may be crap...don't know.
On another note, I love my '06 Liberty CRD. It's a great vehicle with no issues out of the typical maintenance. The 2.8 turbo diesel is great with all my mountain driving and good mpg. It does fine on most of the mountain trails; not a rock crawler, but I have a couple of K5s for that.
"JEEP started going downhill when they started putting Independent suspension on the front of the vehicles and got rid of the tractor motor known as the Inline 6" -Skully
We use to have an old Cherokee with the inline 6 and it would flat fly up the mountain with plenty of pedal leftover and go anywhere, I guess that is why when Jeep came out with this version it caught my attention. I am very skeptical of 1st gen vehicles but then I keep justifying it by saying it is a Jeep after all and they wouldn't produce a lemon. Im not looking for a rock crawler but more of a small SUV daily driver and weekend getaway with short trips to Wyoming to shoot my toys with an old friend. I also hear that Chevy is coming out with a new version of the Colorado, suppose to have plenty of power but again, another first gen vehicle.
Thanks for the input everyone I appreciate it. Not sure which direction Im going to go. I think I will take some time and think it out. Hell I havent even test driven it yet, I might not even like it at all once I get in it. My little Impreza might be my ride for the summer.
rockhound
04-09-2014, 09:39
9 speed tranny, and all kinds of electronic crap to quit working,
ill bet the rebuild on that 9 speed tranny if you keep it our of warrany will cost you a pretty penny
BPTactical
04-09-2014, 10:05
Won't hold a candle to a CJ.
Madeinhb
04-09-2014, 10:52
The new Cherokee is pointless for off-road. It is built on a Fiat and Chrysler chassis. The dodge dart uses the same under carriage. It was created to replace the liberty which failed. They think using the Cherokee name will sell more. But as a "Jeep" in my opinion it is pointless
Colorado_Outback
04-09-2014, 12:26
The new Cherokee is pointless for off-road. It is built on a Fiat and Chrysler chassis. The dodge dart uses the same under carriage. It was created to replace the liberty which failed. They think using the Cherokee name will sell more. But as a "Jeep" in my opinion it is pointless
This.
The new Cherokee is a trail rated Dodge Dart with a taller roof line. If you plan on doing any real off roading buy something else.
It just doesn't have the articulation that your going to want, and modifying the suspension is going to be cost prohibitive.
I would love to see one follow me up Eagle Rock..
Madeinhb
04-09-2014, 13:01
This.
The new Cherokee is a trail rated Dodge Dart with a taller roof line. If you plan on doing any real off roading buy something else.
It just doesn't have the articulation that your going to want, and modifying the suspension is going to be cost prohibitive.
I would love to see one follow me up Eagle Rock..
Follow you up? More like watch you go up.
rockhound
04-09-2014, 14:42
there is nothing off the rack that has any real world 4x4 capability, get you home in a snow storm sure, other than that....
The wrangler is ok, but i have built more capable rigs in my own shop
Colorado_Outback
04-09-2014, 15:29
More like watch you go up.
Yeah, from the far side of the water crossing... [ROFL3][ROFL1]
hurley842002
04-09-2014, 17:46
I would love to see one follow me up Eagle Rock..
Which shows the downfall of the Cherokee. My 99 Cherokee with likely smaller tires (31's) and less "traction aid" (rear locker), did just fine on Eagle Rock..
Madeinhb
04-09-2014, 17:56
Which shows the downfall of the Cherokee. My 99 Cherokee with likely smaller tires (31's) and less "traction aid" (rear locker), did just fine on Eagle Rock..
Ya the Cherokee now isn't like the old ones. It's a whole new vehicle and they just brought back the name Cherokee. It was all about marketing and sales.
Hey guys, just to clarify....I was not/am not looking for a rock crawler or something that can climb up Kim Kardasians back side!! Just a reliable commuter with a little soft off roading now and then.
I should have made my post more clear...such as....does anyone own one? Have they had any problems? Is the new 9 speed crisp! Is there any recommendations on which package to get....... ect
My bad, I will crawl back into my hole with my tinfoil hat on now.
blacklabel
04-09-2014, 18:38
Hey guys, just to clarify....I was not/am not looking for a rock crawler or something that can climb up Kim Kardasians back side!! Just a reliable commuter with a little soft off roading now and then.
It's not built for "soft" offroading. My Frontier is built for soft off roading. That Cherokee is a soccer moms SUV.
hurley842002
04-09-2014, 18:46
It's not built for "soft" offroading. My Frontier is built for soft off roading. That Cherokee is a soccer moms SUV.
Ehhh I bet your Frontier can do more than softroading (new term lol).
Rooskibar03
04-09-2014, 18:52
Saw one (trail hawk) at Chick Fil A tonight, driven by........... ( wait for it) a soccer mom. It could be the best vehicle on the market they are just funky looking.
My only recommendation as a car guy is if you get one, lease it. With the exception of Wranglers Jeeps depreciate faster than you can imagine. With a first year model that may or may not be a success you don't want to be stuck with one of those cars that didn't last and you owe a fortune on something that's worthless.
blacklabel
04-09-2014, 18:52
Ehhh I bet your Frontier can do more than softroading (new term lol).
Quit screwing up my point hurley. Lol.
hurley842002
04-09-2014, 18:53
Quit screwing up my point hurley. Lol.
LOL!
Seems to climb soft soccer mom hills just fine!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQP_J_GlqMo
Aloha_Shooter
04-09-2014, 19:12
Why do people go to an Internet forum "for advice" and then argue with everyone who tells them something they don't want to hear? It's been for sale for 8 months and you think they'd have worked out all the bugs by now? What?!?!?!?
If you want to buy it, then just freaking buy it but don't pretend you're coming here to ask for advice on it when you argue with everyone telling you "trail rated" is marketing garbage, first model year is usually problematic, etc.
hurley842002
04-09-2014, 19:28
Wyokid, it looks like it should do what you want it to, despite our lack of interest in the vehicle. If it's what you want go for it!
Why do people go to an Internet forum "for advice" and then argue with everyone who tells them something they don't want to hear? It's been for sale for 8 months and you think they'd have worked out all the bugs by now? What?!?!?!?
If you want to buy it, then just freaking buy it but don't pretend you're coming here to ask for advice on it when you argue with everyone telling you "trail rated" is marketing garbage, first model year is usually problematic, etc.
Whos arguing here? Forums are a place to get information and communicate with people! Thats the whole concept! Its not pretend, its real!! Maybe its not for you, maybe you should delete your account if you feel that way!! Some of us like to educate ourselves before purchasing!!
Wyokid, it looks like it should do what you want it to, despite our lack of interest in the vehicle. If it's what you want go for it!
Thanks!! I do think it is what I am looking for!
Aloha_Shooter
04-09-2014, 20:05
It's pretty apparent you want to buy it. When warned about the its likely 4WD performance, you brought up it being "trail-rated". When you were told it hasn't been out long enough to develop good information and first model years tend to be problematic, you responded that you thought they would have fixed initial problems because it had been out for months. Sorry, in my book that's arguing, not education. If you want it, get it, just don't pretend you're gathering information when what you're doing is looking for opinions to reinforce what you want to do anyway.
As the song goes,
She'll ask for your advice,
your reply will be concise
then she'll go out and do precisely
what she wants!
Are there lots of assholes on this site or is this an exception? Maybe I will delete my account....very creepy!! Damn cant even ask for advice w/o some jerk calling me a pretender!! In fact just tell the moderators to delete my account...I dont need pricks telling me what my intentions are!! Laterz!!
LMAO. WyoKidd, did you used to post on HighAltitudeImports about 10 years ago? Welcome to the internet.
Aloha [Beer]
Aloha_Shooter
04-09-2014, 20:49
Aloha [Beer]
Sorry, can't drink beer with anyone, I'm a prick. [ROFL3]
blacklabel
04-09-2014, 21:05
Seems to climb soft soccer mom hills just fine!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQP_J_GlqMo
Most minivans should be able to manage that.
Ask for input and when you don't get the answer you wanted you take your ball and go home? The kid part of your name fits.
Sorry, can't drink beer with anyone, I'm a prick. [ROFL3]
If pricks were prohibited from drinking beer, every bar in the world would go out of business over night.
Madeinhb
04-09-2014, 21:21
Why do people go to an Internet forum "for advice" and then argue with everyone who tells them something they don't want to hear? It's been for sale for 8 months and you think they'd have worked out all the bugs by now? What?!?!?!?
If you want to buy it, then just freaking buy it but don't pretend you're coming here to ask for advice on it when you argue with everyone telling you "trail rated" is marketing garbage, first model year is usually problematic, etc.
Was thinking the same thing.
Madeinhb
04-09-2014, 21:23
Are there lots of assholes on this site or is this an exception? Maybe I will delete my account....very creepy!! Damn cant even ask for advice w/o some jerk calling me a pretender!! In fact just tell the moderators to delete my account...I dont need pricks telling me what my intentions are!! Laterz!!
No one was telling you not to buy it, we were giving you opinions to look at. But based on all your responses it seems as if you were looking for people here to say - hey it's amazing, you should get it. That's all we are saying.
Not to be a dick but the current Jeep lineup has no interest for me. On road or off.
Colorado_Outback
04-10-2014, 11:34
Are there lots of assholes on this site or is this an exception? Maybe I will delete my account....very creepy!! Damn cant even ask for advice w/o some jerk calling me a pretender!! In fact just tell the moderators to delete my account...I dont need pricks telling me what my intentions are!! Laterz!!
Another one taking his ball and going home. haha
Later.
dirtrulz
04-10-2014, 12:10
Sounds like some of you guys need to learn how to wheel a rig with something smaller than 37's. I used to go up with a guy who took an old subaru into places you would not believe. Sounds to me this guy is talking about mild jeep roads, which colorado has thousands of them that require nothing other than 4 wheel drive, and even then you can do a lot without it. I have taken our liberty into a lot of places people said I coudnt, it has 31's. Problem is people with built rigs who need an 8 plus trail to be a challenge forget that there are lots of places that you can go with a basically stock rig.
If you learn your rigs limitations and how to drive it, at least one locker is a big help, the cherokee will likely take you anywhere, it sounds like, you will want to go. Its the same with guns. There are guys out there who swear that if your ar didnt cost at least 2 grand you are taking your life into your hands and bought a piece of crap. I generally toss the opinions that are on the far left or right and keep those in the middle.
No one was telling you not to buy it, we were giving you opinions to look at. But based on all your responses it seems as if you were looking for people here to say - hey it's amazing, you should get it. That's all we are saying.
I think you and Aloha are spot on. With only 28 posts and asking 4x4 questions on a gun forum..... Ummmmmmmm...... Ya.
He would not have lasted long here. I doubt that is loss to this community. If you ask a question, don't be surprised if the answer you get is not the one you wanted.
Well, this thread went all pissy pants. Since when can't people bring shiat up in CC? [2cents]
For reference, I took an Outback all over the FS roads around Hancock Pass last year. No problems. I did back off the road to the Mary Murphy Mine after about 100yds. It was a little too loose. Done about the same with a front wheel drive mommy van too. I guess it's how you drive, not what you drive.
Back on subject, WTF is the purpose of a 9 speed transmission in a car based SUV? I pull a pretty heavy trailer with my Duramax and have never said to myself that I could really use 3 more gears. Are they trying to make up for the fact that it has no 4 low range?
hurley842002
04-10-2014, 15:07
Problem is people with built rigs who need an 8 plus trail to be a challenge forget that there are lots of places that you can go with a basically stock rig.
.
And this is why none of my rigs have seen larger than a 32" tire (actually most on 31's). A 31" tire, and rear locker have gotten me up level 8 rated trails. Anything higher than 8 I have no use for, as my rigs are typically daily drivers as well. A completely reliable DD, that can still conquer 95% of the trails in Colorado, is much more impressive to me than a tricked out, barely street legal rig, that can tackle BV carnage canyon or some of the others.
Anyhow, back to the regularly scheduled drama.
More gears lets the engine operate in the most efficient load/rpm range for fuel mileage. There are studies that show going from a 3 speed to a 6 speed can result in as much as a 25% increase in fuel mileage. Going to 9, 30% increase would not surprise me, if you drive on the spec course. So they charge you like $1K more, double your rebuild cost, bank on the fact that the 1st owner will sell before 80K so you can get 4 or 5 mpg more. If you do the math, it costs more long term.
CVTs and transmissions with more than about 4 or 5 gears are just part of the greening of the automobile while they ignore or suppress the technologies that their "market" research says won't sell.
GilpinGuy
04-10-2014, 15:18
Are there lots of assholes on this site or is this an exception? Maybe I will delete my account....very creepy!! Damn cant even ask for advice w/o some jerk calling me a pretender!! In fact just tell the moderators to delete my account...I dont need pricks telling me what my intentions are!! Laterz!!
This place is straight forward and sometimes brutal to those that are a bit limp wristed about internet criticism/comments/opinions, etc. I was harassed big time when I first got here. Just laugh it off man. There are lots of great people here.
Or get pissed and never come back. Your choice.
GilpinGuy
04-10-2014, 15:24
Not to be a dick but the current Jeep lineup has no interest for me. On road or off.
I'm with you here. I've been a Jeep guy for many years but man, they've gone soft. I wouldn't consider anything but a Rubicon but the price tag...[hahhah-no]
And this is why none of my rigs have seen larger than a 32" tire (actually most on 31's). A 31" tire, and rear locker have gotten me up level 8 rated trails. Anything higher than 8 I have no use for, as my rigs are typically daily drivers as well. A completely reliable DD, that can still conquer 95% of the trails in Colorado, is much more impressive to me than a tricked out, barely street legal rig, that can tackle BV carnage canyon or some of the others.
Anyhow, back to the regularly scheduled drama.
I am with ya but go with 33-34". Picking a good line is more important than 10k of crap to overload your truck.
Or get pissed and never come back. Your choice.
Why ya gotta be so mean!!![Sarcasm2]
Back on subject, WTF is the purpose of a 9 speed transmission in a car based SUV? I pull a pretty heavy trailer with my Duramax and have never said to myself that I could really use 3 more gears. Are they trying to make up for the fact that it has no 4 low range?
Obama's CAFE requirements.
Rooskibar03
04-10-2014, 16:18
Obama's CAFE requirements.
Winner winner. Just wait, two more years or so until everything has auto stop/start. Annoying has hell on our cars but at least for now you can turn it off.
StagLefty
04-10-2014, 16:18
Sorry to be late to an asshole thread- carry on :rolleyes:
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dirtrulz
04-10-2014, 18:42
CVT transmissions are likely to be the future as far as I see. The perfect ratio for almost any situation. They just need to get them tough enough to handle some horsepower.
If they produce it.... I will buy it! (when I'm single)
43419
CVT transmissions are likely to be the future as far as I see. The perfect ratio for almost any situation. They just need to get them tough enough to handle some horsepower.
That will be wet-clutch technology for the higher torque/power applications.
tmleadr03
04-10-2014, 19:15
Dicks? Hell I was nice.
Goodburbon
04-10-2014, 19:48
Im a new jeep hater. I have a 97xj on 35s.
That said, I gave them a chance and drove away in a diesel WK2. It gets better mileage than my 2013 ford fusion ecoboost did by 3-4mpg, has more comfort, a bit of off road capability which I need for work.
31 mpg highway in a 6000# suv!!!
sent from my fone!
Great-Kazoo
04-10-2014, 19:58
Sorry to be late to an asshole thread- carry on :rolleyes:
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Likewise, [facepalm] I'm really slacking.
Well, he hasn't logged on since 2 minutes after the pout.
Likewise, [facepalm] I'm really slacking.
Me three...
FWIW, I looked at the Rubicon a couple of months back. For $15k less, I'd buy an FJ Cruiser and add some farkles...
dirtrulz
04-11-2014, 10:07
That will be wet-clutch technology for the higher torque/power applications.
That would still be a manual transmision with set gears. I am talking cvt like what nissan an subaru have used. I think you can get it on the maxima, but not sure if they mate it to the v6 or not. I believe subaru used a metal belt, not sure what nissan uses. Volvo may have had one too. Mabe two belts with two sets of pulleys to get better control of rpms and it may lower the amount of torque each belt would have to hold.
I hate the look of the new Cherokee, it looks like something a hipster from the Highlands would drive. I concur with the sentiment that a real Jeep today is the Wrangler. We have 2 older Cherokees in my family and my dad used to have a CJ5 that was bad ass... The only jeep I'd buy these days (meaning post 2000) would be a Wrangler (possibly the unlimited 4-door because my gf's neighbor has one that he loves, and this is a guy who restores jeeps). Wyokid- if people on here are mean, Walmart is running a sale on Kleenex... Toughen up, buttercup ;)
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