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ChunkyMonkey
04-12-2014, 22:15
http://www.nrl.navy.mil/media/news-releases/2014/scale-model-wwii-craft-takes-flight-with-fuel-from-the-sea-concept


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iavz7AnKI8I


Scale Model WWII Craft Takes Flight With Fuel From the Sea Concept


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04/07/2014 09:00 EDT - 26-14r
Contact: Daniel Parry (nrlpao@nrl.navy.mil), (202) 767-2541
29 Comments (http://www.nrl.navy.mil/media/news-releases/2014/scale-model-wwii-craft-takes-flight-with-fuel-from-the-sea-concept#disqus_thread)
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Navy researchers at the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory (NRL), Materials Science and Technology Division, demonstrate proof-of-concept of novel NRL technologies (http://www.nrl.navy.mil/media/news-releases/2012/fueling-the-fleet-navy-looks-to-the-seas) developed for the recovery of carbon dioxide (CO2) and hydrogen (H2) from seawater and conversion to a liquid hydrocarbon fuel.
http://www.nrl.navy.mil/PressReleases/2014/26-14r_co2-h2_fuel_test_372x314.jpg (http://www.nrl.navy.mil/PressReleases/2014/26-14r_co2-h2_fuel_test_630x531.jpg)Flying a radio-controlled replica of the historic WWII P-51 Mustang red-tail aircraft—of the legendary Tuskegee Airmen—NRL researchers (l to r) Dr. Jeffrey Baldwin, Dr. Dennis Hardy, Dr. Heather Willauer, and Dr. David Drab (crouched), successfully demonstrate a novel liquid hydrocarbon fuel to power the aircraft's unmodified two-stroke internal combustion engine. The test provides proof-of-concept for an NRL developed process to extract carbon dioxide (CO2) and produce hydrogen gas (H2) from seawater, subsequently catalytically converting the CO2 and H2 into fuel by a gas-to-liquids process.
(Photo: U.S. Naval Research Laboratory) http://www.nrl.navy.mil/PressReleases/images/magnifier.png (http://www.nrl.navy.mil/PressReleases/2014/26-14r_co2-h2_fuel_test_630x531.jpg)Fueled by a liquid hydrocarbon—a component of NRL's novel gas-to-liquid (GTL) process that uses CO2 and H2 as feedstock—the research team demonstrated sustained flight of a radio-controlled (RC) P-51 replica of the legendary Red Tail Squadron, powered by an off-the-shelf (OTS) and unmodified two-stroke internal combustion engine.


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HoneyBadger
04-12-2014, 22:25
Neato. There was a guy who claimed to do this with his car a few years back, but I think it ended up being a hoax.

Hound
04-12-2014, 23:03
That would be very cool.

Gman
04-12-2014, 23:07
[panic]They're stealing CO2 and bicarbonate from the phytoplankton. Microscopic plants have to eat too.


[Sarcasm2]

sniper7
04-13-2014, 08:24
So we need 2 stroke trucks!

spyder
04-13-2014, 10:10
It's actually very, very easy to get the hydrogen to separate from water and collect the gas. I've done it, and actually still have the small plate set up. What I'm talking about has been around for years and years. I showed my father in law this in his kitchen, put just a dab of soap on the top to collect bubbles, and then hit them with a lighter. It was loud, and displaced a lot of water, fun fun.... I will find my metal plates and take a picture. I only used my Makita 18 volt battery to power it, worked like a charm.

spyder
04-13-2014, 10:38
This was made of stainless steel plates, nuts, and bolts, and nylon in the same size. All was bought from Home Depot. You simply hook the wires up to a connection, and watch the water go. Add a little salt which helps the reaction, and watch it go even faster. Using sea water would make this super simple for them. This was also something that I learned about in high school. This is not "Fake", or anything else. If you made one of these the size of a microwave.... I can only imagine the output one of these would have....... Hydrogen is way more powerful than the gasoline we use in our cars today guys, hate to tell you, but this isn't fake. I'm not a scientist, or engineer, or just someone who wants to go that extra step to make a giant one of these that would actually power something big, but, it can be done. I started mine after seeing a cutting torch that used this set up in it. It cut through 1/4" plate like it was nothing. I wanted to see if it was real for myself, and could be done, so I made a very small set up (mine is smaller than my tab 2 tablet, same width, but an inch and a half shorter) to test this. It works.

There are so many people who listen to what the news and government says about this kind of science, but will fight tooth and nail when they talk bad about firearms.... apparently the news and government only lie when it comes to the second amendment.... lol, sure.

Top
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h403/asrspyder/DSCN7044_zps3fdb2fb8.jpg
Bottom
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h403/asrspyder/DSCN7043_zps8d554d45.jpg
What the plates all look like from the side.
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h403/asrspyder/DSCN7045_zps4c15a0be.jpg
Connection set up 1
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h403/asrspyder/DSCN7046_zps69f0e7ff.jpg
Connection set up 2
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h403/asrspyder/DSCN7047_zps0dd4b1d4.jpg

spyder
04-13-2014, 10:44
Also, this makes an awesome science experiment to do with your kids. You can show them how to separate the oxygen, and hydrogen by stealing electrons and breaking the bond, getting the elements to go back into gas form, and then.... make it explode (tiny explosions of course) when the gas comes to the top. Be prepared though, it's loud, and can make a mess of water..... Have fun.

Gman
04-13-2014, 12:20
Electrolysis is simple, but the energy recouped in gases is less than that put into the reaction. Not the best strategy.

TFOGGER
04-13-2014, 12:49
The electrolysis is only half of the equation here. They're also extracting carbon (as CO2) and then combining it with the hydrogen via a catalyst to make cetane and heavier hydrocarbons to form stable liquid fuel suitable for use in everything from trucks to jets. If the process scales well, it would be ideal for say a nuclear powered carrier, which has a huge surplus electrical capacity, and could reduce or eliminate the need to carry large amounts of fuel for the aircraft.

ben4372
04-13-2014, 18:34
That's a nice plate system. Lots of surface in a relatively compact package. Making a stable liquid, that is nearly alchemy.