View Full Version : Red-light camera ban gets green light from committee
http://kdvr.com/2014/04/14/red-light-camera-ban-gets-green-light-from-committee/
Hard to believe this has bipartisan support.
One thing I have noticed about these cameras when they go up, is they are ALWAYS being tinkered with. It seems they take them down, replace, them, put them back up, have a truck there with some tech adjusting them all the time. Yeah, I say get rid of them and fire whoever decided to sink tons of money into this idea. Hopefully they can sell them to some other commie state and make some money off of the used equipment.
They want to improve traffic and make things safer? Increase nearly all speed limits by about 10-15%, get rid of the left lane law, and make the left lane a mandatory speed on interstates. And on top of all that, ENFORCE the speed limits and not some arbitrary buffer zone before you give reckless people a ticket.
Get rid of all red lights, stop signs, speed limits and let go sort em out!
Kinda sarcasm.
Cameras can make us safer and make it easier to solve crimes but they also make for a very intrusive society. Red light cameras probably cause more accidents than they prevent. I lean toward banning all public sector cameras, not just red light cams.
Cameras can make us safer and make it easier to solve crimes but they also make for a very intrusive society. Red light cameras probably cause more accidents than they prevent. I lean toward banning all public sector cameras, not just red light cams.
I agree with this statement.
Madeinhb
04-15-2014, 10:08
There has to be a buffer on speed limits. Most cars can show a speed but be traveling a little faster. Most cops I know had a 5 mph buffet. But yes speed limits here need to be raised. Coming from California - speed limits are only 2 speeds. 65 and 75. 75 is only out in middle of no where. I hate I 25 and the different speed limits and having to pay attention to signs on when it changes. I 25 should be 65 all the way through downtown.
No cameras need to go. These were only to raise money. And the 3rd party company got most of it.
No need to ban them if it is not required to pay the tickets. That problem will sort itself out.
Coming from California - speed limits are only 2 speeds. 65 and 75. ......... I 25 should be 65 all the way through downtown.
-there's no such thing as a 65mph speed limit on a freeway in CA in an urban area - it's expressly against state law. Here, a brief refresher http://www.huntingtonbeachca.gov/government/departments/public_works/transportation/safety/speed-zones-speed-humps.cfm Some entire freeways in CA are 55mph, for their entire length, including the first one in the state, the 110.
If you miss the speed limits in CA, take Hwy 70 West, depending on route it's about 1,050 miles to the HB pier.
Aloha_Shooter
04-15-2014, 13:34
Damn, it's so hard to drive when you have to pay attention to the signs! [facepalm]
There are no positive lessons to be garnered from anything passed in California in the last 25 or so years. None. Be happy you escaped the asylum and quit trying to make this state look like it.
Madeinhb
04-15-2014, 14:49
Damn, it's so hard to drive when you have to pay attention to the signs! [facepalm]
There are no positive lessons to be garnered from anything passed in California in the last 25 or so years. None. Be happy you escaped the asylum and quit trying to make this state look like it.
Oh trust me I'm not. The only things I miss are the beaches and the winter weather.
All I was saying is that one the 405,55,5 etc the signs posted are 65 mph
Madeinhb
04-15-2014, 14:53
-there's no such thing as a 65mph speed limit on a freeway in CA in an urban area - it's expressly against state law. Here, a brief refresher http://www.huntingtonbeachca.gov/government/departments/public_works/transportation/safety/speed-zones-speed-humps.cfm Some entire freeways in CA are 55mph, for their entire length, including the first one in the state, the 110.
If you miss the speed limits in CA, take Hwy 70 West, depending on route it's about 1,050 miles to the HB pier.
Here you go: http://apps.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/speed_limits.htm
"The maximum speed limit on most California highways is 65 mph. You may drive 70 mph where posted. Unless otherwise posted, the maximum speed limit is 55 mph on two-lane undivided highways and for vehicles towing trailers."
the speed trap and red light camera's are such a cash cow that the city's using them are going to fight this to the very end, yet claim it's all about "safety"..
Now if they could only do the same thing for the License Plate Trackers.
rockhound
04-16-2014, 07:06
so torn by the ability to track a criminal like they did in boston after the bombing using cameras to spot who left the bag, to the fact that i want the gov't completely out of my life.
red light camera generate a lot of income and are way cheaper than another cop, the city audutor says they cannot prove their efectiveness at reducing accidents, the cops dont want to lose the 8 million in revenue.
I find the flashes from the red light cameras extremely distracting, particularly at night. The ones at Alameda and Buckley will go off for no apparent reason, when no cars in the intersection are moving or over the line. I deliberately avoid that intersection because I get sick of having my eyes dazzled by the random flashes of their million lumen strobes.
I find the flashes from the red light cameras extremely distracting, particularly at night. The ones at Alameda and Buckley will go off for no apparent reason, when no cars in the intersection are moving or over the line. I deliberately avoid that intersection because I get sick of having my eyes dazzled by the random flashes of their million lumen strobes.
I hear ya, my night vision with the street lights aren't good as it is after PRK surgery several years ago with the halos and crap. The flashing lights effectively make me blind for a second. Nearly 60 feet travelled at 40 MPH blind?
Plus if you look at many of the examples illustrated in Aurora Police Dept. video arguing FOR the cameras, half of them look like those people texting or talking on the phone while driving anyways.
Many of them were going super slow or weaving and didn't see the oncoming cars until way after someone paying attention would see them.
Passed the Senate. Heading to the house. Still can't believe the Dimocrats are supporting this.
"The bill has a good chance of passing the House because Democratic Speaker Mark Ferrandino is sponsoring it."
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_25607788/senate-passes-colorado-traffic-camera-ban
I am happily it made it this far. Will Hickenlooper veto?
Great-Kazoo
04-21-2014, 13:05
I am happily it made it this far. Will Hickenlooper veto?
He might commute the sentence, sign it who knows. [LOL]
Madeinhb
04-21-2014, 13:48
Passed the Senate. Heading to the house. Still can't believe the Dimocrats are supporting this.
"The bill has a good chance of passing the House because Democratic Speaker Mark Ferrandino is sponsoring it."
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_25607788/senate-passes-colorado-traffic-camera-ban
Of course they support - it doesn't reduce accidents or make things safer. Is only there for money - now they can tell their sheep that they got rid of these.
Of course they support - it doesn't reduce accidents or make things safer. Is only there for money - now they can tell their sheep that they got rid of these.
It must not be enough money flowing to the right places to make up for the universal revulsion. Local gov sees any benefit so all these guys get is the downside.
Shocking. Dickenpooper won't say if he supports bill or not. I thought this bill only addressed red light cameras, but this article mentions the photo radar vans. Anyone know if they are included in the bill?
"DENVER — Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper wouldn’t say on Monday if he supports a proposal to ban red light cameras and photo radar vans across the state."
Simply amazing. A few sheriffs speak in support of red light/traffic speed enforcement and the Dems. decide that this issue needs to be "studied" more before they can fully support the banning. Seems like I remember just a short time ago that dang near every sheriff in this state spoke against a few gun and mag. laws and the Dems. didn't seem to hear a word they said. Who woulda thunk it? Follow the money............once again................
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