School grounds and sidewalks.

[Eric P]

So I know you can't carry on schools grounds. But are the sidewalks on the street adjacent to the school public land or school grounds? Or a grey area and I should continue to cross the street to stay out any possible trouble?

Thanks

[Great-Kazoo]

How is anyone to know you're armed if you're concealed. The street and sidewalk are right of ways? public access. Some places crossing the street is not an option.

[TFOGGER]

Sidewalks are public rights of way. School property is exactly that, real estate controlled by the school district.

[Irving]

Given what I know about where liability lies for shoveling public sidewalks when it snows, I would imagine that public sidewalks are NOT school property.

[Teufelhund]

How is anyone to know you're armed if you're concealed. The street and sidewalk are right of ways? public access. Some places crossing the street is not an option.

^This. I have to drive through the school parking lot to pick up my kid from after-school activities at least 3 days a week. I'm not going to go home and put my CCW in the safe before I go pick him up. Concealed is concealed.

Speaking of which, I know a court in CO ruled recently that it is unconstitutional for the Post Office to prohibit guns in their parking lot because that would mean you have to be disarmed to and from the Post Office (you'd have to leave your gun at home). How does this not apply to schools?

[Irving]

It's not an issue at schools. Law says you can have a gun in the car.

[spleify]

^This. I have to drive through the school parking lot to pick up my kid from after-school activities at least 3 days a week. I'm not going to go home and put my CCW in the safe before I go pick him up. Concealed is concealed.

Speaking of which, I know a court in CO ruled recently that it is unconstitutional for the Post Office to prohibit guns in their parking lot because that would mean you have to be disarmed to and from the Post Office (you'd have to leave your gun at home). How does this not apply to schools?

You are OK to DRIVE on school property with a CCW but as soon as you step foot on school grounds you are in violation.

[ChadAmberg]

^This. I have to drive through the school parking lot to pick up my kid from after-school activities at least 3 days a week. I'm not going to go home and put my CCW in the safe before I go pick him up. Concealed is concealed.

You don't have to. If you have a permit, you can be in your car, on school grounds explicitly for the reasons you say. If you get out of the car, the handgun needs to stay in the car.

(2) A permit issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun into a
place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law. Page 18-senate bill 03-024(3) A permit
issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun onto the real property,
or into any improvements erected thereon, of a public elementary, middle, junior high, or high school; except
that:
(a) A permittee may have a handgun on the real property of the public school so long as the handgun
remains in his or her vehicle and, if the permittee is not in the vehicle, the handgun is in a compartment
within the vehicle and the vehicle is locked.

[Teufelhund]

Didn't know that. Thanks for the info.

[.455_Hunter]

The question gets murky when schools are collocated with parks.- What's school? What's park?

[Great-Kazoo]

The question gets murky when schools are collocated with parks.- What's school? What's park?

Everything is the park.

[rbeau30]

I guessthe way I understand it this way...

If by the remote chance I get car-jacked, mugged, attempted raped, or someone comes up to you and pulls a gun/knife/other such deadly weapon while in the school parking lot or the park adjoining the school or on the sidewalk... I am not really sure I would give two shits about "Ohh I'm in the school parking lot sidewalk, or whatever" when I ending that fuckers life correction: stop the threat in front of me.

[Eric P]

How is anyone to know you're armed if you're concealed. The street and sidewalk are right of ways? public access. Some places crossing the street is not an option.

Its concealed, but in the summer, it is less so. Not open carry, but printing since a coat or jacket is not covering. Just don't want some kid or parent to freak out, call the cops and have to worry about it.

To the open carry side, they could do nothing either, right? not planning on doing it, just for discussion sake.

[Great-Kazoo]

Its concealed, but in the summer, it is less so. Not open carry, but printing since a coat or jacket is not covering. Just don't want some kid or parent to freak out, call the cops and have to worry about it.

To the open carry side, they could do nothing either, right? not planning on doing it, just for discussion sake.


If you're willing to deal with the repercussion of open carry near a school, have at it. Just don't expect a lot of support from this board afterwards.

[spqrzilla]

^^ Yep.