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HoneyBadger
04-21-2014, 19:51
Well, this caught my interest. And my skepticism.
http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines/something-huge-just-happened-and-the-mainstream-media-is-ignoring-it



The most important political development in 200 years was triggered last week, when the state legislature of Michigan became the 34 th state to demand a “Constitutional Convention” in the United States. Under Article 5 of the US Constitution, if 2/3rds of the states call for such a convention, (meaning 34 states) it MUST take place. During such a convention, the ENTIRE Constitution can be changed; nothing is off-limits. This would even allow the States to dismantle the federal government without its consent, and repudiate the debt which that government has incurred! When it voted for the convention last week, Michigan became the 34 th state, thus meeting the requirement.
A goal has been reached behind what would be an unprecedented effort to amend the U.S. Constitution, through a little-known provision that gives states rather than Congress the power to initiate changes. This is the most significant political development in the entire world in the last 200 years.
Read more... (http://www.politicalears.com/blog/something-huge-just-happened-and-the-mainstream-media-is-ignoring-it/?utm_content=buffer60170&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer)


Okay, after from further digging, this appears to have some legitimacy:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/02/rare-option-forcing-congress-to-meet-change-constitution-gains-momentum/
http://www.mlive.com/lansing-news/index.ssf/2014/04/accidental_history_how_michiga.html
http://blog.constitutioncenter.org/2014/04/unraveling-part-of-a-new-constitution-convention-riddle/



If two-thirds of the states indeed have applied, the ball is presumably in Congress' court to call the convention.
But Article V is rather vague, and it's ultimately unclear whether 34 states have technically applied. In the past, states like Oregon, Utah and Arizona have quietly voted to approve the provision in their legislature.
But some of the 34 or so have rescinded their requests. Others have rescinded, and then re-applied.
Alabama rescinded its request in 1988 but in 2011, lawmakers again applied for a convention related to an amendment requiring that the federal budget be balanced. It was a similar story in Florida in 2010.
Louisiana rescinded in 1990 but lawmakers have tried several times, unsuccessfully, to reinstate the application since then.

SamuraiCO
04-21-2014, 21:00
Mark Levin's latest book The Liberty Amendments discusses this in detail and he believes DC is so broke it's the only way to fix the USA.

What is really scary are the legislations in states voting to go around the electorial college and declare all their electorial votes go to the winner of the pooular vote versus how the state votes. Of course that is funded and fueled by Soros.

Zundfolge
04-21-2014, 21:38
An Article 5 Constitutional Convention is not the same thing as a full Constitutional Convention (where they can rewrite the whole thing) ... an Article 5 Convention is just for the purpose of proposing specific amendments to the Constitution.

As Samurai said, Mark Levin's latest book discusses this and while I'm skeptical that it can be pulled off, it is probably the only way to return this country to its Constitution.

HoneyBadger
04-21-2014, 22:01
An Article 5 Constitutional Convention is not the same thing as a full Constitutional Convention (where they can rewrite the whole thing) ... an Article 5 Convention is just for the purpose of proposing specific amendments to the Constitution.

As Samurai said, Mark Levin's latest book discusses this and while I'm skeptical that it can be pulled off, it is probably the only way to return this country to its Constitution.
It seems like it could also be an easy way to strip this country of its constitution, if the powers that be were so persuaded. [Dunno]

Circuits
04-21-2014, 22:22
Also, constitutional amendments, whether proposed by a full constitutional convention or an article 5 convention, would be subject to ratification by 3/4 of the extant states before coming into effect.

ChadAmberg
04-22-2014, 07:19
Am I the only one who thinks that any convention that happens won't be for the purpose of guaranteeing us more rights, but as a way to take more away?

buffalobo
04-22-2014, 07:24
How else are we supposed to usher is a New World Order?

Lobbed from my electronic ball and chain.

rbeau30
04-22-2014, 09:36
Am I the only one who thinks that any convention that happens won't be for the purpose of guaranteeing us more rights, but as a way to take more away?

This. OUR rights are not a concern here in this process. I believe this would be a perfect opportunity to circumvent some obstacles that our current ruling class have not been able to overcome.

Zundfolge
04-22-2014, 10:16
Well kids, I honestly believe it comes down to this.

We either do the Article 5 Convention thing and force our government back into its constitutional box or we revolt. We're not going to vote our way out of this mess.

The Article 5 Convention is much less likely to end in tyranny and death than the revolt or doing nothing and leaving our government the way it is (which is headed toward collapse, tyranny and mass death).

mindfold
04-22-2014, 11:21
Hope for the best but plan for the worse.



Well kids, I honestly believe it comes down to this.

We either do the Article 5 Convention thing and force our government back into its constitutional box or we revolt. We're not going to vote our way out of this mess.

The Article 5 Convention is much less likely to end in tyranny and death than the revolt or doing nothing and leaving our government the way it is (which is headed toward collapse, tyranny and mass death).

Watermagnet
05-03-2014, 16:42
Am I the only one who thinks that any convention that happens won't be for the purpose of guaranteeing us more rights, but as a way to take more away?


I agree with this 100%. While I think a balanced budget and term limits would help turn this ship around I know better than to believe a politician would vote to limit his/her time on the thrown. I am now off to download another book though...

blacklabel
05-03-2014, 17:19
Am I the only one who thinks that any convention that happens won't be for the purpose of guaranteeing us more rights, but as a way to take more away?

You're not. If they don't even attempt to respect our rights as they exist now, what makes anyone think that another draft would fair any better?

Joe_K
02-18-2016, 23:08
https://youtu.be/iOkM1RW17yk