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bobbyfairbanks
05-01-2014, 08:09
So my self and another forum member recently traded guns and of course did a FFL transfer. This was not easy. I suggested that we meet about half way for each of us. That ended up being Tri Lake shooting in Monumnet. I was planning on buying a 550 from them as well as the transfer. They said no even if I bought the press. So I started calling around. Bass Pro, Shootin Den, Sportsmans.... We ended up going through a very small FFL that runs it out of his house for the transfer. I don't get it. With these new retarded laws you would think FFL would want to help out gun owners and on top of it make free money. It takes about 3 min of work to do a FFL transfer. Most charge about $30. That is about $10 a min. Not bad money in my opion. Red Bear guns ended up helping us out at the last minute and I was extremely greatful. Neadless to say finding out that these gun shops wont do a private FFL transfer you have now lost my business. Guys that live down near the springs where have you been doing FFL transfers at?
jason303
05-01-2014, 08:12
I wonder if perhaps the big box gun stores have had a hand in, or were supportive of the law because
it would increase their sales. I'm speculating only.
rockhound
05-01-2014, 08:13
agreed, Help me out or forget me buying anything from you
My local shop In bailey is very helpful, Thanks Josh
BPTactical
05-01-2014, 08:25
This is one place where the FFL's fell flat on their face when it came to the debates regarding the legislations.
If there was ever a time to pull together that was it, and they failed.
Not that it would have mattered, the Dems were gonna do what they were gonna do regardless.
The FFL really doesn't make much on a person to person transfer. I'm pretty sure the actual law says they can't charge more than a ten dollar fee. You will pay that and the mandatory ten dollar fee for the CBI check which gouges to the CBI and not the dealer. I really can't blame them for not wanting to log things in and out of their books for a piddly $10. I avoid the big box stores as much as possible but I have been known to do a transfer at Gander Mountain on occasion even though I hope they go belly up soon. I really prefer to do all of my transfers at Noah's shop whenever I can (Ark Tactical).
Perhaps because by law they cannot charge you more than $10 (That law is about as respected as speed limits)
Perhaps it is more paperwork than you think mucking with books?
Perhaps they don't want to deal with the hassle should the BG check come back denied or delayed?
The only ones that can really answer that is the shops that refuse.
Rucker61
05-01-2014, 08:37
The FFL really doesn't make much on a person to person transfer. I'm pretty sure the actual law says they can't charge more than a ten dollar fee. You will pay that and the mandatory ten dollar fee for the CBI check which gouges to the CBI and not the dealer. I really can't blame them for not wanting to log things in and out of their books for a piddly $10. I avoid the big box stores as much as possible but I have been known to do a transfer at Gander Mountain on occasion even though I hope they go belly up soon. I really prefer to do all of my transfers at Noah's shop whenever I can (Ark Tactical).
I think they can charge only $10 for the BGC, but whatever they like for the transfer activity.
I think they can charge only $10 for the BGC, but whatever they like for the transfer activity.
There are two fees.
The CBI fee which must be collected and passed on to the state.
The transfer fee which is up to the FFL but limited to $10 max.
I've paid more than $10. Gander charges $10 it's the only affordable thing they do.
Guys that live down near the springs where have you been doing FFL transfers at?
Stop, Drop and Shop and Voelker Research, both on Academy.
I think they can charge only $10 for the BGC, but whatever they like for the transfer activity.
I'm not sure, but here is the actual wording in the law.
"A licensed gun dealer may charge a fee for services rendered pursuant to this section, which fee shall not exceed ten dollars."
My personal interpretation of that is that they are not allowed, by the law, to charge you more than ten dollars for their service. Plus, obviously, the mandatory $10 CBI fee that you would pay on any background check done in Colorado for any firearm purchase.
If a dealer wants to charge me more than $20 ($10 for the transfer and $10 for the CBI fee) I go elsewhere. And, in my mind, they are in violation of state law by charging me more. Probably why most of them just don't mess with it.
bobbyfairbanks
05-01-2014, 09:30
The FFL really doesn't make much on a person to person transfer. I'm pretty sure the actual law says they can't charge more than a ten dollar fee. You will pay that and the mandatory ten dollar fee for the CBI check which gouges to the CBI and not the dealer. I really can't blame them for not wanting to log things in and out of their books for a piddly $10. I avoid the big box stores as much as possible but I have been known to do a transfer at Gander Mountain on occasion even though I hope they go belly up soon. I really prefer to do all of my transfers at Noah's shop whenever I can (Ark Tactical).
This is bullshit regardless what the law is we all know most still charge 25-50 dollars for a transfer and lets say they do only charge $10. Most transfer take less then 3 min for you to impute. So the beer math on that is $3.33 a minute. That is dam good money. What do people behind the gun counter do the rest of the time. NOT much. This is just plain being a D bag.
Takes them more than 3 minutes.. Private party transfers are a money losing proposition for most shops so why do it?
Called centennial gun store awhile ago. They said $65 for transfer.
Called centennial gun store awhile ago. They said $65 for transfer.
[hahhah-no]
Rapid Fire Bunker or Ark Tactical for transfers for me.
From the dealer side of the house it is a pain in the ass.
You have to receive it from the seller, log it in your books, have the purchaser fill out a 4473, input all the info in the CBI site, ring up transaction and then log it out of your books.
That is why more places wont do it. It can easily be more than a 10 minute process.
Then there is the issue if what if the purchaser fails a background check. That is ugly.
Whistling Pines Gun Club on the east side of the Springs does it as long as one of the people involved is a member.
From the dealer side of the house it is a pain in the ass.
You have to receive it from the seller, log it in your books, have the purchaser fill out a 4473, input all the info in the CBI site, ring up transaction and then log it out of your books.
That is why more places wont do it. It can easily be more than a 10 minute process.
Then there is the issue if what if the purchaser fails a background check. That is ugly.
Whistling Pines Gun Club on the east side of the Springs does it as long as one of the people involved is a member.
And keep records, then write a check for your $10 fees you collected for the stupid law at the end of the year? Yeah to me sounds like a PITA. Perhaps this is what one of the intended side-effects of the law is?
And keep records, then write a check for your $10 fees you collected for the stupid law at the end of the year? Yeah to me sounds like a PITA. Perhaps this is what one of the intended side-effects of the law is?
Making it harder to transfer is one side effect they were after. Having a paper trail for firearms is another.
bobbyfairbanks
05-01-2014, 10:21
It is just like Ayn Rand. Why work, Why transfer guns?
Then there is the issue if what if the purchaser fails a background check. That is ugly.
In that scenario the private parties are supposed to be able to walk out the door, transaction never happens, FFL doesn't log anything in or out..
https://www.ar-15.co/threads/110807-How-private-transfers-now-work-in-Colorado-(background-checks-FTF-transfers-etc)
Short version:
1) Buyer fills out 4473
2) FFL checks and records buyer ID, marks handgun/long gun/other (no SN# yet), and runs the BGC. CBI charges $10 at this point
3) If pass, FFL takes gun & confirms SN, enters gun into books, writes the SN# on the 4473, and logs the book out to buyer. Buyer/seller leave happy.
4) If fail, seller takes the gun and leaves. FFL did not take possession. FFL does not enter the gun into the books. 4473 gets filed (without SN/gun info).
5) If the seller ever gives "exclusive possession" to the FFL (see linked discussion threads on what this means), then seller has to pass a BCG to get their gun back. Seller still owns it, just can't take possession. If seller fails BGC, you'll have to work something out with the FFL (likely consignment, or find another buyer).
Circuits
05-01-2014, 11:42
And keep records, then write a check for your $10 fees you collected for the stupid law at the end of the year?
CBI bills monthly, not yearly.
In response to previous post:
No. If fail, seller has to pass a background check. Laws do not differ any more than consignment or pawn transaction.
FFL's cannot run background checks willy nilly, they have to be attached to firearms. To attach them to firearms, they have to be logged. To return them, seller has to complete check.
If both buyer and seller fail, then it goes on consignment or the store has to keep it.
Actually, you are wrong on this and it has been covered many many times and clarified by the CBI/ATF.
The dealer is not required to put the firearm in their bound book until the BGC is approved and a transfer occurs. Seller does not have to relinquish control of the firearms until said transfer.
Circuits
05-01-2014, 12:00
No. If fail, seller has to pass a background check. Laws do not differ any more than consignment or pawn transaction.
FFL's cannot run background checks willy nilly, they have to be attached to firearms. To attach them to firearms, they have to be logged. To return them, seller has to complete check.
This is not true, and it's not the same as a pawn or consignment - ATF issued guidelines to FFLs for private party transfers which specifically address this, and as an FFL you should have received it.
Here's a link to ATF Procedure 2013-1: https://www.atf.gov/sites/default/files/assets/pdf-files/atf_proc._2013-1_-_private_firearms_transfers_through_ffls.pdf Note the section on page 2 under 'Procedure - "Denied" or "Cancelled" transactions'.
The Colorado CBI FAQ says that Colorado law does not require a background check to be conducted on the seller, but incorrectly claims that federal law requires it.
This page, question number 2: http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/CDPS-CBIMain/CBON/1251622199556
Since Colorado law does not require it, according to the CBI, and federal law does not require it according to the ATF procedure, it is not required.
The moral of the story is: it can be a big PITA to sell a gun to a private party. Selling to a dealer for 1/2 or 1/3 what it's worth sucks, too. I'm being very selective about what I purchase, as it's (obviously) easiest to just never need to sell.
CBI bills monthly, not yearly.
Even worse. You have to go through the CBI fee payment 12 times a year instead of once. I was just adding up the labor costs in my head and pointing out another cost, I am not an FFL.
Even worse. You have to go through the CBI fee payment 12 times a year instead of once. I was just adding up the labor costs in my head and pointing out another cost, I am not an FFL.
That one is not a cost adder as any FFL would already be doing it and it is general overhead. (assuming you do not have to submit an itemized accounting, CBI should submit that to you)
That one is not a cost adder as any FFL would already be doing it and it is general overhead. (assuming you do not have to submit an itemized accounting, CBI should submit that to you)
:-) This is why I gladly pay the fees the dealer charges me to keep up with all this laws and procedures so I don't have to.
Thank you FFLs!
For me its a just a PITA trying to coordinate a time when both parties can meet, find a place that will do the transfer for 20 bucks total, and hope to get there when the business is open... I "thought" the 10 part of the law applied to what the CBI check was and that the FFL could charge whatever as witness by some shops charging 20 bucks for their time and as stated in the case of Centennial Gun Club 65 bucks.. If the law does limit the fee to 10 bucks for the FFL how can CGC still charge 65?
For me its a just a PITA trying to coordinate a time when both parties can meet, find a place that will do the transfer for 20 bucks total, and hope to get there when the business is open... I "thought" the 10 part of the law applied to what the CBI check was and that the FFL could charge whatever as witness by some shops charging 20 bucks for their time and as stated in the case of Centennial Gun Club 65 bucks.. If the law does limit the fee to 10 bucks for the FFL how can CGC still charge 65?
I'm wondering why the heck is there a limit anyways?
I strongly believe that a business owner should be able to charge whatever they want, and If it is too much and if people don't want to pay for it, then they either lower the fee to what demand is or don't offer the services anymore. Economics.
Why Oh Why does the government have to legislate every part of our damn lives?!?!?!?
Circuits
05-01-2014, 13:11
If the law does limit the fee to 10 bucks for the FFL how can CGC still charge 65?
If they're smart they add it as a service fee or counter charge, because the law really does limit the fee for the background check itself to $10.
So:
Private Party Background Check: $10
CBI Fee : $10
Service Fee (non member) : $45
BlasterBob
05-01-2014, 14:00
The Colorado CBI FAQ says that Colorado law does not require a background check to be conducted on the seller, but incorrectly claims that federal law requires it.
Since Colorado law does not require it, according to the CBI, and federal law does not require it according to the ATF procedure, it is not required.
Circuits is correct. One case where a BGC on the seller would be necessary is when the FFL does actually LOG in the firearm and the potential buyer cannot pass the BGC and the firearm has to be reclaimed by the seller. Then the proposed seller will have to get a BGC for his own firearm to be returned and pay the going rate that the FFL charges. The Democrats wanted to do all they could to put a stop or at least a real slowdown to the firearm traffic in CO and this is working. The BASTARDS. [Mad]
Called centennial gun store awhile ago. They said $65 for transfer.
Is that for a private sale transfer or the transfer of a gun you buy online? I suspect it's the latter.
Is that for a private sale transfer or the transfer of a gun you buy online? I suspect it's the latter.
Private sale transfer.
Private sale transfer.
Wow! Thee are enuf locations that do them for $20. Avoid CGC.
Wow! Thee are enuf locations that do them for $20. Avoid CGC.
Yeah it was a little after the new laws. Even if you bought a gun online and sent it to them $65 is steep.
I've paid more than $10. Gander charges $10 it's the only affordable thing they do.
So, Gander Mtn at Thornton charges $10 for private transfer?
thanks in adv.
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kidicarus13
05-01-2014, 19:48
Voelker Research, both on Academy.
+1 for the Springs area. Always friendly.
Called centennial gun store awhile ago. They said $65 for transfer.
That's almost funny.
[hahhah-no]
Rapid Fire Bunker or Ark Tactical for transfers for me.
+1 for South Denver metro transactions
C & S Outdoors in Trinidad will do private party transfers for a small fee.
BlasterBob
05-02-2014, 07:23
C & S Outdoors in Trinidad will do private party transfers for a small fee.
That sounds great........How small?
Not sure, but between $20 and $50.
Takes them more than 3 minutes.. Private party transfers are a money losing proposition for most shops so why do it?
Most every other businesses actually PAYS to get customers in the door. Arrogant gun shops actually get paid to get customers in the door and complain about it? Yeah, I'll take my business elsewhere you can't help me out. I've had others that do NFA refuse to take my transfers because the item I'm buying is priced less than they sell it for and they refuse to price match or even come close. I'll take my business elsewhere. It amazes me how gun shops make money in spite of the worst customer service of any other business in existence. You want to make money beyond your wildest dreams? Open a gun shop, have a reasonable inventory and then employ people for their customer service ability and not their ability to tell racist or homophobic joke or how they voted in the last election. You'll have to hire another full-time person just to count the money.
Most every other businesses actually PAYS to get customers in the door. Arrogant gun shops actually get paid to get customers in the door and complain about it? Yeah, I'll take my business elsewhere you can't help me out. I've had others that do NFA refuse to take my transfers because the item I'm buying is priced less than they sell it for and they refuse to price match or even come close. I'll take my business elsewhere. It amazes me how gun shops make money in spite of the worst customer service of any other business in existence. You want to make money beyond your wildest dreams? Open a gun shop, have a reasonable inventory and then employ people for their customer service ability and not their ability to tell racist or homophobic joke or how they voted in the last election. You'll have to hire another full-time person just to count the money.
Why do I have a feeling that you have never owned or operated a small business?
Why do I have a feeling that you have never owned or operated a small business?
You would be VERY wrong. Nice try though. I guess you've run several multi-million dollar businesses w/o an advertising budget?
It amazes me how gun shops make money in spite of the worst customer service of any other business in existence.
You don't eat much fast food, do you?
[Coffee]
Lets whip it out and start measuring wankers.
But no, you wouldn't "hire a full-time person just to count the money".
Firearm sales have probably the worst profitability of any business.
You've got to be around for many many years to make it even work. Niches can make good.
But good CS isn't the whole picture.
Guys like savings $ more than they do talking. Where jewelry has a markup of 80%, guns you're lucky if you truly even have 8%.
It's called hyperbole. I wasn't serious about needing to hire a full-time employee to count the money but I was making a point that if someone could merge the simple idea of customer service with the business of selling firearms and firearms accessories that seems to be profitable despite the employees they couldn't help but be successful. I guess I took this website for smarter people than that.
You don't eat much fast food, do you?
[Coffee]
I have. Recently. And had poor experiences. They still don't turn customers away because they don't 'make enough money' on whatever the loss leader is that they waste billions advertising. We wonder why the average citizen doesn't get into firearms.... have you seen our ambassadors to someone trying to learn more about firearms? It's no mystery and drives me nuts. Too many 'gun people' behind the counters.
Off topic, but regarding bad service and fast food.
One of the reason I go to fast food is the damn service is better than a fu*kin restaurants which sells north of $40 per dish. Seems like those stupid @ss restaurants are privately owned. I rarely get a bad services at a corporate/franchisee owned restaurants. Again, it is always fu*king privately owned restaurants.
I recently told one of the owner at a sushi place that "I would rather eat a 99cent mcdouble and have a average service, than eat a good food with shitty service you provided tonight."
I also went to one of the Korean BBQ place 2 weeks ago in Aurora next to M-mart. Damn, they have a shitty service.
It is truly sad that I get a far better service at Arby's/Wendy's employees who make minimum wage than a decent restaurant waiter/waitress who makes north of $70k.
Oh yeah, I get a better freaking service at Gander or even Sportsman's than some average privately owned restaurants.
BlasterBob
05-02-2014, 15:14
While we are on the subject of crappy service, I have to condense my story about treatment in SOME gun shops. Way back in the mid 50's, because of my love of firearms, I joined the Army to get the training to be a Small Arms Repairman. I did attend the Small Arms Repair school at Aberdeen Proving Grounds, Maryland and really enjoyed the course they provided. I did that with the thought of eventually becoming a REAL gunsmith in civilian life. The civilian thing never did materialize. Now, after seeing so damn many gunsmiths with their prima donna attitudes, when talking with potential customers, I feel fortunate that I didn't pursue that vocation because I might have turned out the same way. There are a lot of really nice/friendly gunsmiths out here however the small number of them who are condescending and look down on us folks who have only a little more than basic knowledge of firearms really stand out. Again, most of the gunsmiths I have dealt with were really regular guys and very friendly but then there are those few a--holes really stand out. OK, flame away, I have my fire retardant suit handy.
[blah-blah]
I have a guy in Woodland Park. Phil at Rocky Mountain Arms. (719)659-1197.
Lets whip it out and start measuring wankers.
But no, you wouldn't "hire a full-time person just to count the money".
Firearm sales have probably the worst profitability of any business.
You've got to be around for many many years to make it even work. Niches can make good.
But good CS isn't the whole picture.
Guys like savings $ more than they do talking. Where jewelry has a markup of 80%, guns you're lucky if you truly even have 8%.
Yep. Thanks for bringing reality back in, although I believe the markups are more like 15-20% on firearms. A bit higher in some cases. Ammo markups are a more.
hurley842002
05-02-2014, 18:57
Off topic, but regarding bad service and fast food.
One of the reason I go to fast food is the damn service is better than a fu*kin restaurants which sells north of $40 per dish. Seems like those stupid @ss restaurants are privately owned. I rarely get a bad services at a corporate/franchisee owned restaurants. Again, it is always fu*king privately owned restaurants.
I recently told one of the owner at a sushi place that "I would rather eat a 99cent mcdouble and have a average service, than eat a good food with shitty service you provided tonight."
I also went to one of the Korean BBQ place 2 weeks ago in Aurora next to M-mart. Damn, they have a shitty service.
It is truly sad that I get a far better service at Arby's/Wendy's employees who make minimum wage than a decent restaurant waiter/waitress who makes north of $70k.
Oh yeah, I get a better freaking service at Gander or even Sportsman's than some average privately owned restaurants.
You know, I hadn't noticed the great customer service at fast food restaurants, because I don't eat much fast food, but now that you mention it, the last three FF experiences I've had were excellent. Arby's, Carl's Jr, and McDonald's, all the employees were extremely friendly, and acted as tho they were truly happy to be there. Maybe hoping for that $15 an hour minimum wage?
Voelker Research, both on Academy.
I did quiet a few transfers through them, last one cost $40 for one lower, will not use them anymore. They used to have reasonable prices. Still good people to deal with but there is cheaper closer now.
Of course. My point is, CS doesn't have as much of an effect in firearms as it does in, say, a restaurant or a hardware store.
Case in point: One of the busiest, if not the busiest firearm stores in junction is a hole in the wall pawn shop with absolutely horrible customer service. But it is cheap. Guys literally wait, standing, on average for 1 - 1 1/2 hours JUST to get the opportunity to talk to the owner to buy something. Small shop, but a lot of crap in the back, dirty, packed with sweaty bastards. I do believe in Customer Service. But if you had the sexiest, most friendly knowledgeable women operating a gunstore, clean, perfect, and MSRP style prices, guess what- you will have to shutter your doors and close down when competing with the former business.
Guys in the firearm world don't care as much for chitty chat and brown nosing or reach arounds. They really just want the best price. They'll wait a long ass time to get the best price. Whereas, an average woman in a clothing store, you can probably get awesome sales just with VERBAL skills, marked up three the price of online retailers. That type of customer wants a reach around..... and they want it NOW. That type does exist in the firearm world too, but they are a fraction.
ETA:
I've seen crazy bastards drive all around town, put easily 60 miles on a vehicle, checking every shop before coming back to save, what, $6.00? They probably burned 3 hours and at least $10 in gas to do that. Some guys are freaking crazy.
While I agree that some 'gun people' don't care about CS most do and there's also new those who aren't yet 'gun people' and CS like most gun shops offer is a HUGE turnoff to new people interested in learning more.
Gun owners, in general, are cheap bastards. Of all the hobbies I have and have had over the years, I've run into more people in the firearms hobby who's main concern is saving a few bucks. Don't get me wrong, I'm not disrespecting anyone for being frugal or trying to save a buck or two. Hell, I'm not made of money myself. I just find it odd that a certain degree of "cheapness" seems to be more prevalent in this hobby than most others.
The point I was making with my post was that customer service in the firearms industry isn't as important as pricing. You can have crappy CS an if you sell an item cheaper than the next guy people are going to buy it.
Reminds me of an interaction with a customer when I was helping out one of the vendors at Tanner a few months ago. He had New Springfield XDs .45's at $499. Customer comes up, says it's the best price at the show and asks if we can come down on price. I explain it's already an excellent price. Best at show in his own words. Explain the vendor is making very little profit at that price. He responds with "Sportsman's up the road has them on sale for $520". After picking myself off the floor I suggest he may want a math refresher as $20 more plus a higher tax rate plus cost of gas did not all equal a better deal. When he still didn't get it, I asked why he wasn't already on his way to Sportsman's. He agreed and left to purchase his new XDs at a cost of $20+ more. Another satisfied customer.
I know my customer service skills sucked, but all XDs' were gone by the end of the show.
colorider
05-03-2014, 12:58
I must be going to the wrong fast food places. Every one I visit is staffed with fucking idiots.
I must be going to the wrong fast food places. Every one I visit is staffed with fucking idiots.
You and I must go to the same places. I guess it's hard to get good help for minimum wage.
The point I was making with my post was that customer service in the firearms industry isn't as important as pricing. You can have crappy CS an if you sell an item cheaper than the next guy people are going to buy it.
To follow up your point and bring it back to my point... the two aren't mutually exclusive. There's no reason we should have to choose.
10mm-man
05-03-2014, 13:53
You and I must go to the same places. I guess it's hard to get good help for minimum wage.
Don't worry, that is going to change! Obama is going to by-pass Congress, and raise the min wage. We will all get better service, and more qualified help because of it, I am sure.
Don't worry, that is going to change! Obama is going to by-pass Congress, and raise the min wage. We will all get better service, and more qualified help because of it, I am sure.
With all the unemployed good workers looking for work there is ZERO excuse for poor employees these days other than poor management.
You know, I hadn't noticed the great customer service at fast food restaurants, because I don't eat much fast food, but now that you mention it, the last three FF experiences I've had were excellent. Arby's, Carl's Jr, and McDonald's, all the employees were extremely friendly, and acted as tho they were truly happy to be there. Maybe hoping for that $15 an hour minimum wage?
You and I must go to the same places. I guess it's hard to get good help for minimum wage.
I must be going to the wrong fast food places. Every one I visit is staffed with fucking idiots.
Those 3 stores are top notch. I like Wendy's service as well.
I can't stand Jack-in-the-Box's service. Maybe trying to avoid rush quick lunch hour can contribute to good service for me.
Going back to the topic.
I am one of those guys who doesn't complain a lot about gun store service. I even had a great service experience at Dave's and even Cal's during 90s.
I do admit that there is one store that I avoid. 3 consecutive bad service will do that. Maybe they have a fair price on firearms. I don't have to have that specific firearm that day. Thanks to the competitiveness in this industry, I can avoid that specific place and just transfer it to my FFL from GB.
bside303
05-26-2014, 16:10
45299
Just saw this sign today. The worker said no charge for the transfer and 10 for the background check.
ONLY mon-fri 10am-1pm
not bad.
Huge Props for those major retailers providing those service @$10.
It is a great way to bring some foot traffic in to their store.
45299
Just saw this sign today. The worker said no charge for the transfer and 10 for the background check.
ONLY mon-fri 10am-1pm
not bad.
clublights
05-26-2014, 17:24
45299
Just saw this sign today. The worker said no charge for the transfer and 10 for the background check.
ONLY mon-fri 10am-1pm
not bad.
because no one works mon-friday between 10am and 1pm ...... maybe during lunch I guess...
SideShow Bob
05-26-2014, 18:10
because no one works mon-friday between 10am and 1pm ...... maybe during lunch I guess...
This, how generous of them to offer N/C Private Party transfers only during this time frame to make it convieniant to the minimum wage earning working folks.
This is one place where the FFL's fell flat on their face when it came to the debates regarding the legislations.
If there was ever a time to pull together that was it, and they failed.
Not that it would have mattered, the Dems were gonna do what they were gonna do regardless.
ya, but they would have been on record.
because no one works mon-friday between 10am and 1pm ...... maybe during lunch I guess...
I have Monday and Tuesday off. I can go! :D
Anyone else offering free BGC's for private party transfers? Didn't think so. I've been saying since this law passed that a LGS would be smart to give them away to get people in the door. Most retail businesses PAY to get customers in the door in the form of advertising.
Camperdavid
12-08-2015, 21:31
Anyone else offering free BGC's for private party transfers? Didn't think so. I've been saying since this law passed that a LGS would be smart to give them away to get people in the door. Most retail businesses PAY to get customers in the door in the form of advertising.
As usual, I'm late to the party....but, I couldn't agree more!
I can't think of a time that I didnt wander around filling a basket while I was waiting for the database to confirm that I still wasn't part of ISIS. New gun means new dies, brass, ammo, holster, etc. I'm willing to bet that a shop nets more revenue on two boxes of shells and a holster than many firearms anyway. Hell, I actually paid $30.00 for a pound of Unique at Buck Stop in Spearfish SD, just to be nice!
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