Hrm, to be "outraged" against P&G or not...

[RblDiver]

Saw this story about Proctor & Gamble getting flack from Germans for supposedly having a neo-nazi code on some detergent bottles:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/detergent-pulled-germany-over-neo-153546725.html;_ylt=AwrBEiSjGG1TgkEAOyvQtDMD

At first, I thought it was a ridiculous story about some people getting in a tizzy over nothing (the use of "18" on the bottle, supposedly a code for Hitler in Germany). Then I saw P&G's statement:

"We very much regret if there are any false associations and distance ourselves clearly from any far-right ideology."

Why oh why does everyone associate Naziism with the right? National Socialists, it's left-wing, not right!
/feels some faux outrage of my own starting up >.>

[SuperiorDG]

So Payton Manning is a Nazi?

[Ah Pook]

I'm guessing a P&G faux pas.


Like this warning.

To clear the matter up, P&G will add the following warning labels to its product: "For clothes cleansing, not ethnic cleansing" and "Meant to clean jeans, not genes."

[Ridge]

No, Naziism was definitely far right.

[Irving]

Lol Ah pook.

[MrPrena]

It is as dumb as the rumor in the 80s. During the 80s, people were calling out on Proctor and Gamble for supporting devil. [hahhah-no]

[Ah Pook]

Something about devil worshiping or liking Subarus.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&docid=3IJ3O35CXo6KdM&tbnid=xTJ9Wgj75VpUyM:&ved=0CAUQjBw4Fg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.architecturalbronze.com%2Fima ges%2FCast_Bronze_Plaques%2FLogo%2FA-05.jpg&ei=P7JvU7rbF8iPyASDvIKoCw&psig=AFQjCNHcZlTFiF7cNxyiIN3PghbPkuOuZA&ust=1399915455445067

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/47/Subaru_logo.svg/412px-Subaru_logo.svg.png

[TFOGGER]

Something about devil worshiping or liking Subarus.

There's a difference? [LOL]

[GilpinGuy]

Do they distance themselves from far left ideology too?

[crays]

Label, schmabel...All I care, is if it works. Some people are far too sensitive, and have way too much time on their hands.

[Great-Kazoo]

Label, schmabel...All I care, is if it works. Some people are far too sensitive, and have way too much time on their hands.

I'm worried about micro-agressive people, myself.

[Jesus-With-A-.45]

It's trendy, hip & cool to hate freedom, free markets & individual liberty. That's why everything most be blamed on the right at all times & they know the media will capitulate with all those lies.

[HoneyBadger]

"We very much regret if there are any false associations and distance ourselves clearly from any far-right ideology."

Why oh why does everyone associate Naziism with the right? National Socialists, it's left-wing, not right!

Are the far right and the far left really that different as far as We The People are concerned? Unless you're in the ruling class, you have no liberty under either system. I would say that they are equally evil.

[Aloha_Shooter]

No, Naziism was definitely far right.

Absolutely false, another myth propagated by the Left. Naziism was a branch of socialism. It wasn't just a label -- look at the programs Hitler pushed through (other than the genocidal ones): the "peoples' automobile" (Volkswagen), social aid programs, wealth redistribution, etc. Naziism had nothing to do with with capitalism or any of the other ideologies associated with "the right".

[funkymonkey1111]

Here's an actual reason to dislike P&G: helping found the American Heart Association, all the while pushing their Crisco product.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303678404579533760760481486?tesla= y

[brutal]

Here's an actual reason to dislike P&G: helping found the American Heart Association, all the while pushing their Crisco product.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303678404579533760760481486?tesla= y

Every can should come with a free wristwatch.

(obscure reference that a few here might actually get)

[GilpinGuy]

Zappa was a genius.

[Ridge]

Absolutely false, another myth propagated by the Left. Naziism was a branch of socialism. It wasn't just a label -- look at the programs Hitler pushed through (other than the genocidal ones): the "peoples' automobile" (Volkswagen), social aid programs, wealth redistribution, etc. Naziism had nothing to do with with capitalism or any of the other ideologies associated with "the right".

The people's automobile was produced by a private company and is no more socialist than buying Ford. You say look at their social programs and give "social aid programs" as an example with no mention as to what they are. The only wealth redistribution was the wealth taken from the Jews and stolen and hidden by the Nazi party upper echelons.

The far right doesn't have shit to do with capitalism, either.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics


Far-right politics commonly includes authoritarianism, anti-communism, and nativism.

AKA the SS and the belief of a "true Germanic people"


Far-right politics usually involves anti-immigration and anti-integration stances towards groups that are deemed inferior and undesirable.

Such as Jews, homosexuals, gypsies and the like.

[Gman]

There are way too many people just looking to be offended by something. Anything.

When the people have freedom, it does not guarantee an individual the right to not be offended by something they don't agree with. Get a life.

[GilpinGuy]

When the people have freedom, it does not guarantee an individual the right to not be offended by something they don't agree with. Get a life.

Yes. I love the look I get when I say "People have the right to be offended...so be offended."

And as far as to he left/right debate, I don't think it's fair to equate the Naziism with either the far left or far right in this country. Neither seem to compare IMHO. Seems like there was a bit of both in there.

[ChadAmberg]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHpXjm78Pjs

[Rabid]

Absolutely false, another myth propagated by the Left. Naziism was a branch of socialism. It wasn't just a label -- look at the programs Hitler pushed through (other than the genocidal ones): the "peoples' automobile" (Volkswagen), social aid programs, wealth redistribution, etc. Naziism had nothing to do with with capitalism or any of the other ideologies associated with "the right".


The people's automobile was produced by a private company and is no more socialist than buying Ford. You say look at their social programs and give "social aid programs" as an example with no mention as to what they are. The only wealth redistribution was the wealth taken from the Jews and stolen and hidden by the Nazi party upper echelons.

The far right doesn't have shit to do with capitalism, either.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics



AKA the SS and the belief of a "true Germanic people"



Such as Jews, homosexuals, gypsies and the like.
You two are talking about different scales. The Nazi party and, as a reference, the KKK are considered far right but if you put them in the American political scale they fall to the far left. These scales are mutually exclusive. On the scale ridge is talking about the United States, both the Republicans and Democrats fall to the moderate right. If we followed the ideas of someone like Ron Paul it would bring us to the center.
The biased media uses these scales together to mislead the public talking about the Nazi's, KKK or Ukrainians political powers being far right in one sentence and the republican party in the next. Aloha is right in that the left uses this to their advantage and they are experts at it now.

[GilpinGuy]

You two are talking about different scales. The Nazi party and, as a reference, the KKK are considered far right but if you put them in the American political scale they fall to the far left. These scales are mutually exclusive. On the scale ridge is talking about the United States, both the Republicans and Democrats fall to the moderate right. If we followed the ideas of someone like Ron Paul it would bring us to the center.
The biased media uses these scales together to mislead the public talking about the Nazi's, KKK or Ukrainians political powers being far right in sentence and the republican party in the next. Aloha is right in that the left uses this to their advantage and they are experts at it now.

I guess you said what I was trying to say better.

And man, be careful using Wikipedia as a source for political info folks. They lean left for sure.

[Great-Kazoo]

The stars on their packaging was 1 reason. The other 1, any guess from some of us "older" members?


Marilyn Chambers, was one of the models pictured on the box.


It is as dumb as the rumor in the 80s. During the 80s, people were calling out on Proctor and Gamble for supporting devil. [hahhah-no]

[wctriumph]

The stars on their packaging was 1 reason. The other 1, any guess from some of us "older" members?


Marilyn Chambers, was one of the models pictured on the box.

I went and saw Behind the Green Door. Second porno I ever saw, Deep throat was first at the Pussycat theater in Hollywood. I was 17 and used a fake ID to get in. Freaked me out, never saw anything like that before in my life. Back then you went to a movie house that could seat 700 to 1200 persons, full concession stand just like a regular theater. I wonder if that would work today?

[Gman]

Marilyn Chambers, was one of the models pictured on the box.
Ivory Snow.

[Ah Pook]

Zappa was a genius.
Sure was. I quit eating yellow snow because of him.

Let's not forget the Joy commercials. It was all well and good, until they threw in an attractive black lady.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QopH2pfcb-I

[Danimal]

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[ChadAmberg]

This source is about as reliable as the liberals that authored it. It is the Nazi Socialist Party, and were elected as such during a socialist movement that was sweeping Europe. They targeted Jews, not for their race, but because they owned and operated most German national banks. They knew that if they could get the German people that were still in a state of poverty after WW1 to think of Jews as evil outsiders, they could be driven from the country and the government could take over their monetary stockpiles. We all know were it went from there with genocide.

Right or left is being blurred intentionally through sources like the one that you posted. This is an intentional political tactic to lump the crazies in our country on the right so that they can point their finger and say "this is a model of what is right wing and what they believe, do you want to be like them?" and is used to target young and on the fence voters.

The video I posted above provides a lot of backing for this. Such as debunking the "private company" argument. Also, just because the Nazi party might have cherry picked a few authoritarian parts of the the actual far right, doesn't mean they should be classified that way.

Oh and the KKK being far right? That's just as ridiculous.

[brutal]

Sure was. I quit eating yellow snow because of him.

Let's not forget the Joy commercials. It was all well and good, until they threw in an attractive black lady.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QopH2pfcb-I

haha there nanook.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Let them then own land or factories as much as they please. The decisive factor is that the State, through the party, is supreme over them, regardless whether they are owners or workers. All that, you see, is unessential. Our Socialism goes far deeper… What are ownership and income to that? Why need we trouble to socialize banks and factories? We socialize human beings.

Yep, Nazi-ism wasn't Socialism because Ridge said so. Nevermind what the guy at the center of it all said or how he sold his movement to Germans.

[TFOGGER]

Well, this thread has certainly taken an interesting turn...[LOL]

http://jaredblakedicroce.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/take-that.jpg

[Kraven251]

and here I always thought it was "88"