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clublights
05-25-2014, 01:00
I need some help to wrap my brain around this a bit better...
Why do the anti's as a whole think the NRA is so powerful and so totally evil?
They act as if the NRA eats babes and kicks puppies all day and night.
They act as if the NRA has total and complete power over any firearm and firearm owner...
They act as if the NRA controls every aspect of manufacturing of firearms as well as make a direct profit from every gun, bullet and accessory sold.
They act as if the NRA is just the KKK in new clothes.
Why are these things ?
Anyone shed some light on it other then "They are just bat shit crazy"
I think it has too with the fact that the NRA is a pretty powerful lobbying force, and the fact that it's members don't roll over and pretend not to care. Any sort of resistance to the antis is met with confusion and bewildered hurt.
theGinsue
05-25-2014, 01:24
While there are some up & coming organizations out there, the NRA is the most powerful PRO-2A organization in existence; mostly due to its huge member base. Because of this, the NRA continues to keep the Anti's from completely eliminating our 2A rights (save the debates over the motives & compromises of the NRA for another thread).
This makes the NRA the primary "bad guy" in the eyes of the Anti's. Weaken or destroy the NRA and they can eventually win their cause.
Unfortunately, many members of the NRA, and others who support the NRA and 2A aren't as firmly planted in their "shall not be infringed" convictions as many of us. Using inevitable atrocities such as mass shootings or any violent crime where a firearm was used to claim it's the NRA's fault for not allowing "common sense" gun laws to be put into effect turns many of these wishey-washey Pro-2A supporters into Anti-2A believers. The anti-NRA dogma also works to keep many others from becoming new members. New members are critical to maintaining the member base as older members eventually die off. Incrementalism. Slowly erode the grass-roots support & eventually the NRA will be effectively neutered of it's lobbying and member-base power.
Additionally, the anti-2A/predominantly liberal mindset of "believe as I believe or you're not just wrong but my enemy as well" remains a pervasive characteristic of these folks.
ETA: TheGrey (https://www.ar-15.co/members/11081-TheGrey) replied while I was typing my response. She hit the nail on the head.
clublights
05-25-2014, 01:32
See that is part of it for me ..
The NRA has 5mil or so member which is only about 1.5% of the US population. While yes 5 million is a LOT of people 1.5% is not a very large percentage of the population.
Read Rules for Radicals and you will understand.
* RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy.
theGinsue
05-25-2014, 01:36
See that is part of it for me ..
The NRA has 5mil or so member which is only about 1.5% of the US population. While yes 5 million is a LOT of people 1.5% is not a very large percentage of the population.
You're right, but 5 million individual voices through 1 powerful lobbying group tends to be heard better than 50 million individual voices on their own.
ETA: Excellent post asmo (https://www.ar-15.co/members/6742-asmo). Simple, yet quite accurate.
You all are hinting around the reason besides Asmo. They can say "it is the NRA " and make it seem like one evil entity instead of saying "the millions of people who are the NRA".
Bailey Guns
05-25-2014, 06:54
Liberals never argue using logic to support their position because it rarely does. They argue from an emotional perspective. Furthermore, the truth can't support their agenda so they have to "change" the truth to fit their cause, just like with any other subject they argue against.
Liberals have lie to get their way. It's pretty much that simple.
spqrzilla
05-25-2014, 07:50
See that is part of it for me ..
The NRA has 5mil or so member which is only about 1.5% of the US population. While yes 5 million is a LOT of people 1.5% is not a very large percentage of the population.
But those 5 million are opinion leaders for many more motivated millions.
When polled, five or six times as many people claim to be NRA members than NRA's membership stats show.
The power of the NRA is true grass roots, unlike Bloomberg's astroturf organizations. The NRA lobbyists are powerful because of the people behind them, NRA lobbyists actually have very little hard cash behind them compared to other lobbying organizations.
Jeffrey Lebowski
05-25-2014, 07:53
I get a huge kick out of it when the media calls the NRA a front group for all the manufacturers. They are the NRA.
Uhh…no. We are.
ChadAmberg
05-25-2014, 08:06
Because there are dozens of think tanks, analysts, pundits, and media consultants that seek to frame everything that doesn't promote their agenda as puppy kicking baby punchers. Your average schmuck is so bombarded by these messages that it has an effect over time. That's why already you're seeing the same political commercials constantly already, such as linking Republicans with a Christian version of Sharia law.
spqrzilla
05-25-2014, 22:05
I get a huge kick out of it when the media calls the NRA a front group for all the manufacturers. They are the NRA.
Uhh…no. We are.
The media calls the NRA a front for gun manufacturers because that is the propaganda of the gun control advocates. They want to make people falsely think the NRA represents manufacturers rather than the millions of voting gun owners they actually represent.
Its not a mistake. Its an intentional lie. Fight it whenever you see it.
Look at the way the same folks foam at the mouth about Rush Limbaugh...although they've never listened to him. They also feel that they'll be just as popular in the talk radio space as conservatives, but they just "haven't found their Rush Limbaugh yet".
It's all heat and no light from them. It's easier to emote on a target than to reason logically.
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