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theGinsue
05-19-2009, 23:32
Better not move to Massachusettes!!!!

http://www.eagletribune.com/punewshh/local_story_135220825.html?keyword=topstory (http://www.eagletribune.com/punewshh/local_story_135220825.html?keyword=topstory)



Police: Man said 30,000 bullets were for target practice He is held on $500,000 bail By Paul Tennant
ptennant@eagletribune.com (http://us.mc336.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ptennant@eagletribune.com)

HAVERHILL — Keni Garcia told police he intended to use the 30,000 bullets they found in his car and home for target practice.


That is hard to believe, the prosecutor at Garcia's arraignment said, because if he were to fire a gun for eight hours a day, it would take weeks for him to use all of it.
Garcia, who allegedly bought thousands of rounds of ammunition and had 10,000 bullets in his car when he was stopped by police Thursday, was ordered held on $500,000 cash bail yesterday.
Attorney Socrates de la Cruz of Lawrence, who represented Garcia, 32, of 12 Freeman St., at his arraignment in Haverhill District Court, said he will appeal the high bail in Superior Court.
Garcia is charged with three counts of possession of a high-capacity firearm, illegal possession of ammunition and illegal storage of a firearm. His case was continued until June 12.
Assistant District Attorney Christopher Holland asked Judge Patricia Dowling to impose $750,000 cash bail.
"He has no reason to stay here," Holland said.
The judge ordered Garcia to surrender his passport, and said that if he makes bail he is not to leave Massachusetts.
Garcia is a native of the Dominican Republic who was expected to become a U.S. citizen yesterday, but then he was arrested, authorities said.
Police arrested Garcia after he had left Interstate 495 at Exit 49 Thursday. They said they found 10,000 rounds of ammunition in his car. His two young daughters also were in the car, police said.
Holland said at Garcia's arraignment that a "joint effort" by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and state police found that Garcia had previously bought 20,000 rounds of ammunition in New Hampshire.
Garcia told police he only intended to use the bullets for target practice at a rifle range, Holland said, disputing Garcia's explanation. His common law wife, Elizabeth Reynoso, consented to a search and police found another 20,000 rounds, Holland said. They also found one .38-caliber and two 9 mm handguns, and $25,000 in cash, Holland said.
The prosecutor said all of the bullets seized from Garcia were for .38-caliber, 9 mm and .22-caliber firearms. Such ammunition is "like gold in the Dominican Republic," he said.
Holland said Reynoso told police he had "a shipping type of business" and that the $25,000 in cash must have come from Garcia cashing a business check.
"Where is the crime?" de la Cruz asked. The lawyer said Garcia had lived in New Hampshire for three years before recently moving to Haverhill.
"He bought the guns legally," de la Cruz said. "He never hid the fact that he had them."
Furthermore, de la Cruz said that when Garcia moved to Haverhill, he had a 60-day grace period to obtain a Massachusetts firearms card.
"There is no crime committed," he argued, saying there was no evidence that Garcia was shipping guns or ammunition to the Dominican Republic.
He asked the judge to allow his client "to go back to his job." He said Garcia has worked at a local bakery for three years.
Yesterday, Freeman Street residents interviewed by The Eagle-Tribune said they did not know anything about Garcia or guns and ammunition being stored at or shipped from his home. Medline Abiles, of 43 Freeman St., who resides across the street from Garcia's house, said that in the two months she has lived in the neighborhood, she has not observed any weapons or ammunition and had no reason to be suspicious. Her sister, Carmen Reyes, who visits frequently, said she also had never noticed anything suspicious at the two-family house at 12 Freeman St.

**Posters note: By these standards, how many of us would get the electric chair for what we have?

GunTroll
05-20-2009, 00:35
Couldn't pay me to live in MA!

ChunkyMonkey
05-20-2009, 00:43
three counts of possession of a high-capacity firearm, illegal possession of ammunition and illegal storage of a firearm

WTF are those supposed to mean?

RRD3
05-20-2009, 06:28
Um, This is a little suspicious.

They also found one .38-caliber and two 9 mm handguns, and $25,000 in cash.

25K in cash? WTF

ChunkyMonkey
05-20-2009, 12:19
Nothing wrong w/ that either! I know plenty of business owners who has much more cash under the mattress.. come on now.

RRD3
05-20-2009, 13:16
Well the fact that he's not a Citizen means he shouldn't have shit. No one in the this country should be able to buy or own a weapon who is not a citizen.

The 2ND is for US Citizens, not those who are about to be.

Fuck him and who ever sold him either.

GunTroll
05-20-2009, 13:28
Non citizens can buy guns. Non immigrant alien thing. I feel its ok for them to own and buy.

Dr. Forward aren't you in this boat? He is cool and should be able to do as he pleases.

DOC
05-20-2009, 13:36
I think he should forfit the ammo and it should be donated to needy people in Co. IF, IF its found that he did something wrong besides haveing guns and ammo in an Antigun nanny state.

ChunkyMonkey
05-20-2009, 14:19
Well the fact that he's not a Citizen means he shouldn't have shit. No one in the this country should be able to buy or own a weapon who is not a citizen.

The 2ND is for US Citizens, not those who are about to be.

Fuck him and who ever sold him either.

Wow..I enjoyed your posts until to this point. Perhaps you should tell that to the 35000 non citizens who are serving this country and the hundreds who died doing so the past decade alone.

Here is the deal...

The Bill of rights are written originally by the Virginian colonists to preserve their right to arm themselves. It was later on shortened and adapted by the US congress in form of Bill of Rights proposal on June 8, 1789. During this time, the Citizenship of this country had not been established, because of 2 reasons: the ongoing large influx of the European migrants, and the congress failed to agree to define this country (e.g.: national language which doesn't exist until today).

Until 1860s, US 'residency' were to be proved by property ownerships, business ownerships, etc. In short, the land of the free truly existed with some exceptions to the Native American, or Asian migrants. Any Europeans who moved to US could establish themselves as US resident by any reasons mentioned above. In 1857, however, the Congress finally propose the 14th amendment which provides a broad definition of citizenship, overruling previous State by State residency law some of which had excluded slaves and their descendants from possessing Constitutional rights.

So my friend, citizenship in this country came almost 80 years after bill of rights. The forefathers understood this well - hence the word 'militia' and 'the people' in it.

sniper7
05-20-2009, 15:37
Its okay guys, I emailed him and the authorities and they decided to drop all charges and send me the ammo, bullets and cash.

they will be for sale shortly.[Coffee]

RRD3
05-20-2009, 16:51
Wow..I enjoyed your posts until to this point. Perhaps you should tell that to the 35000 non citizens who are serving this country and the hundreds who died doing so the past decade alone.

Here is the deal...

The Bill of rights are written originally by the Virginian colonists to preserve their right to arm themselves. It was later on shortened and adapted by the US congress in form of Bill of Rights proposal on June 8, 1789. During this time, the Citizenship of this country had not been established, because of 2 reasons: the ongoing large influx of the European migrants, and the congress failed to agree to define this country (e.g.: national language which doesn't exist until today).

Until 1860s, US 'residency' were to be proved by property ownerships, business ownerships, etc. In short, the land of the free truly existed with some exceptions to the Native American, or Asian migrants. Any Europeans who moved to US could establish themselves as US resident by any reasons mentioned above. In 1857, however, the Congress finally propose the 14th amendment which provides a broad definition of citizenship, overruling previous State by State residency law some of which had excluded slaves and their descendants from possessing Constitutional rights.

So my friend, citizenship in this country came almost 80 years after bill of rights. The forefathers understood this well - hence the word 'militia' and 'the people' in it.

Sorry if I'm not so forgiving of immigrants. I have a different view of those who serve in the military to gain citizenship. That is giving back to the country and the states. What do most of these fuckers do? Nothing but rape and pillage our systems for their benefit. I'm not talking about those who built this nation... I know our history.
There isn't much that can be said about those seeking freedom in this country today. And I feel that those who are here without citizenship should not have the same freedoms that we have fought for. To many come here "expecting" everything either for nothing or next to nothing.
This will only get worse under Obama's give everyone who works money to those who don't policies.

That is just my belief and experience. Nothing against those who think differently. That's why I fought for this country, this is why I live here and that is probably one of the reasons so many people come to this country.

ChunkyMonkey
05-20-2009, 17:13
Oh, I probably jumped on your post for nothing then. I understand and agree with you. The ROOT of the issue is still the liberals. They extended the welfare to pretty much anyone with a heart beat. It is sad to see how the treatment given to our vets is comparable to the illegals the past couple decade... well at least you have the balls to serve. I worked for the fed over-sea years ago, glad the marines were there when it was time to pack things up in a hurry! [Beer]

RRD3
05-20-2009, 17:28
Oh, I probably jumped on your post for nothing then. I understand and agree with you. The ROOT of the issue is still the liberals. They extended the welfare to pretty much anyone with a heart beat. It is sad to see how the treatment given to our vets is comparable to the illegals the past couple decade... well at least you have the balls to serve. I worked for the fed over-sea years ago, glad the marines were there when it was time to pack things up in a hurry! [Beer]

No problem. Thanks for your support. You know we take a lot of shit from just about everyone other than the enemy, but we are ok with that [Beer]

theGinsue
05-20-2009, 20:01
I lived in MA (active duty USAF) from January 2003 until I could flee back here in June 2005. I had to leave my guns with a friend here in CO because there was no way I was going to be allowed to have them in MA (several reasons).

The place is so totally anti-gun - even among most of the conservatives I knew and liked - that you'd have far less issues telling people that you are married to your maternal sister and own slaves than for them to think that you own even one single gun.

SA Friday
05-20-2009, 21:32
Even a shitty defense attorney would get this crushed in the trial. This won't stick. Unfortunately, the damage of being in jail until trial is going to leave a mark.

Mass. is one of the states that has a mag capacity law still on the books, but it's almost a secondary charge only and needs a felony that can be linked to the high-cap mag charge.

Hell, They would crap their pants if they think what he had constituted a crime or potential danger. Also, the judge has no idea just how easy it is to go through 30k rounds. I do that on an average year shooting competitively with my pistols alone.