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Zombie Steve
06-21-2014, 13:07
Ammo, ballistics and reloading.

These threads never seem to stay on track, but ideally, the person with the correct answer gets to ask the next question.

I'll take the liberty of going first (no google-fu, ya miscreants).




First marketed in 1890 by the Laflin and Rand Powder Company, "Infallible" has survived two company changes and one name change. It's still an extremely popular powder in pistol and shotgun, with some limited use in light rifle loads. What's it called today?

Great-Kazoo
06-21-2014, 14:56
Unique.

Zombie Steve
06-21-2014, 15:22
Indeed. You're up. I have another if you can't think of one...

Great-Kazoo
06-21-2014, 16:28
Indeed. You're up. I have another if you can't think of one...

You're out of win 231, what's your substitute, using same load data?

Zombie Steve
06-21-2014, 17:30
Probably getting the number salad confused in my head, but H380?

sellersm
06-21-2014, 18:01
HP-38


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Great-Kazoo
06-21-2014, 18:59
HP-38


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sellersm
06-21-2014, 19:03
Similar question: you finally used your last tin round canister of Winchester Action Pistol powder and need a replacement without doing all the research of load data, etc. what powder could you substitute for it with the same data?


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crays
06-21-2014, 19:21
W.A.G. here, WST?

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sellersm
06-21-2014, 19:53
W.A.G. here, WST?

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crays
06-21-2014, 20:26
Nope. Thx for playing!

Figured that, and I'm assuming my 2nd guess would be wrong too. Might have to do some googly-googly to satisfy my own curiosity.

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Zombie Steve
06-21-2014, 23:42
HP-38


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Dang it. Number salad. I had the H the 3 and the 8 correct.



As far as Win Action Pistol, that's Ramshot Silhouette now...



Next question - In 1931 Hercules came out with 2400 powder. It was called that because it got what cartridge to 2,400 feet per second?

sellersm
06-22-2014, 14:49
I must disqualify myself from this question. I thought I knew the answer but when I checked, it was wrong... So I now know the answer, hmmm perhaps I could take bribes?


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Great-Kazoo
06-22-2014, 15:36
I must disqualify myself from this question. I thought I knew the answer but when I checked, it was wrong... So I now know the answer, hmmm perhaps I could take bribes?


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sellersm
06-22-2014, 16:29
Hmmmmm, tempting...


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Zombie Steve
06-22-2014, 17:46
If there's no takers, go ahead...

sellersm
06-22-2014, 21:31
22 Hornet?


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Zombie Steve
06-22-2014, 21:48
Yup. The demise of the 22WCF.

sellersm
06-22-2014, 21:50
Got another question for our listening audience, Zombie?


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Zombie Steve
06-23-2014, 15:17
What cartridge were the first Remington 700's chambered in?

Irving
06-23-2014, 18:55
30-06?

buffalobo
06-23-2014, 19:53
I don't know if first chambering or not, but didn't Remington build the first 7 MM rifle as a model 700?

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TFOGGER
06-23-2014, 20:39
I was thinkin' .222 Rem or .244 Rem...

Zombie Steve
06-23-2014, 21:01
I don't know if first chambering or not, but didn't Remington build the first 7 MM rifle as a model 700?

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Yep. The first 700 was released in 7mm Remington Magnum. Two of big green's biggest successes.

Zombie Steve
06-29-2014, 09:30
Ok... no question to ask? I wouldn't mind keeping this going.

Why did the .243 Winchester soar in popularity when it came out and the 6mm Remington / 244 Remington died off despite better performance?

Great-Kazoo
06-29-2014, 10:05
Ok... no question to ask? I wouldn't mind keeping this going.

Why did the .243 Winchester soar in popularity when it came out and the 6mm Remington / 244 Remington died off despite better performance?

ease of reloading and feeding in bolt actions???

Great-Kazoo
06-29-2014, 10:06
reloading orientated.
which remington is / was more accurate out of box, but never caught on the like the 700 series. Also what makes it different that the 700 series?

Zombie Steve
06-29-2014, 12:25
ease of reloading and feeding in bolt actions???


Nope.

Zombie Steve
06-29-2014, 12:26
reloading orientated.
which remington is / was more accurate out of box, but never caught on the like the 700 series. Also what makes it different that the 700 series?

I'm guessing the 600, but I couldn't tell you the differences between the series...

Great-Kazoo
06-29-2014, 12:41
I'm guessing the 600, but I couldn't tell you the differences between the series...

The 788, rear locking lugs, 9 of them. It was a price point unit. low priced introductory rifle.

Zombie Steve
06-29-2014, 22:51
Didn't know that. Good one.


The reason .243 succeeded where the 6mm Rem failed is every rifle that came out chambered in 6mm rem came with a 1:12 twist barrel and was marketed as a varmint rifle. The .243's. were 1:10 and could stabilize heavier bullets. It was marketed as jack of all trades... woodchucks to mule deer.

I'm not sure where this leaves us... someone ask a trivia question. [Coffee]

buffalobo
06-29-2014, 22:58
Winchester model 1903 was unique in two ways. Name one.

I have one produced in 1911. By far my favorite firearm. Family heirloom.

Great-Kazoo
06-29-2014, 23:16
Winchester model 1903 was unique in two ways. Name one.

I have one produced in 1911. By far my favorite firearm. Family heirloom.

Safety was separate from the bolt assy.

buffalobo
07-01-2014, 06:44
First commercially available semi auto from Winchester and originally chambered in 22 Winchester Automatic cartridge.

Zombie Steve
08-22-2014, 20:27
No cheatin', now...

What was Elmer Keith's famous .44 mag load?

spqrzilla
08-22-2014, 21:45
You mean his .44 Special load - that was what was famous. 17.5 of 2400 under a 250 grain cast bullet in modern cases. He used more in the old balloon case heads (which must have come apart fast for him).

I didn't cheat but I do have a copy of Keith's "Sixguns" around here somewhere. Probably hiding next to my lost copy of Hatcher's Notebook which is also great for trivia.

Zombie Steve
08-23-2014, 07:00
I was shootin' for the 22 grains of 2400 load and the 250 boolit in a mag case, but I suppose he probably was more famous for the special... Have you read "Hell, I was there!"?

J
08-23-2014, 08:09
Since we don't have any new questions:

What does "IMR" stand for?

Zombie Steve
08-23-2014, 08:33
Improved Military Rifle?

J
08-23-2014, 09:28
Correct

Zombie Steve
08-23-2014, 16:57
Sweet.

What was the first commercial rifle cartridge designed for smokeless powder?

Zombie Steve
08-23-2014, 17:05
Oh, hell. I thought I knew the answer to my own question, but I was wrong.

TFOGGER
08-23-2014, 20:40
.30 WCF aka .30-30?

Zombie Steve
08-23-2014, 22:44
That's what I thought until I googled it.

J
08-24-2014, 19:29
I think shotguns went smokeless before any rifle, correct?

But since the question says rifle, I think it was an 8mm round, but I cannot remember which one.

spqrzilla
08-25-2014, 08:22
Hmmm, I was pretty sure it was .30-30 WCF too?

If you are thinking 8mm Lebel, that was a military round to my thinking, not a commercial one.

TFOGGER
08-25-2014, 08:49
I was thinking 8mm Lebel and .30-40 Krag were both considered "military" cartridges...

Zombie Steve
08-25-2014, 10:40
The 8mm Lebel was 1886... 9 years before the .30 WCF was released.


Sorry about that one.


Anybody want to ask the next one?

spqrzilla
08-25-2014, 13:07
Question: What was the full name of the person who, during the early 60's , developed ballistic equations for calculating appropriate loads using DuPont's line of IMR powders - which were produced for the handloading public in a sliderule format?

Jamnanc
08-25-2014, 14:03
Something something speer.