View Full Version : Interesting info on ammo prices
Richard K
05-21-2009, 10:52
The president of the gun club I belong to attended the NRA convention in Phoenix.  He approached all the ammo manufacturers that had booths.  He says he was told that they have only raised their prices approximately $1.00 per box.  Since ammo prices have doubled recently it's either the distributors or retailers that are gouging us.
I would imagine it's the retailers. The last time I stopped in Sportsman's they  had a sale of .40 for 39.99 a box when the same box was 19.97 at Wally World
GunTroll
05-21-2009, 11:35
I'd hope everyone allready knew this! High priced ammo...FU to the seller and move on. He will lower if people would stop freaking out and buying because of some fear of never getting it at this price again or at all down the road. This problem we are all in is because of us (meaning all the shooters out there). Not Obama.
jackmode9316
05-21-2009, 13:47
I still blame obama...
ChunkyMonkey
05-21-2009, 15:18
and palosi!
i blame ritter, obama and pelosi
Circuits
05-21-2009, 17:09
The president of the gun club I belong to attended the NRA convention in Phoenix.  He approached all the ammo manufacturers that had booths.  He says he was told that they have only raised their prices approximately $1.00 per box.  Since ammo prices have doubled recently it's either the distributors or retailers that are gouging us.
It's not gouging, it's scarcity in the face of demand.  If the spot price of ammo moves, so does the commercial price.  You don't expect a gold dealer to sell you gold for 'what they bought it for, plus a small markup' - it sells for what the spot price is, whether the dealer makes or loses money on any one transaction.
I've got a good supply of ammo in, which I cannot replace for anywhere near what I bought it for, whether I shoot it myself or sell it.  If I sell some of it, I won't sell it for less than what it will take me to replace it, otherwise I'd have no ammo and not enough money to get more.
If I can't replace what I have, then I don't have any ammo to sell...
Maybe the manufacturers are only charging "a buck more a box", but they're also on months-long (more like a year-plus-long) backorders, and required by contract to fulfill orders with the largest retail chains first, and at the contracted price... either dealers and distributors have to go buy it from the retail chains and pay markup over retail, or they do without.
If ammo manufacturers truly haven't raised prices, then when demand goes down and the supply chain refills, ammo will fall to not much more than before Obama.  To expect anyone to continue selling at 2007 prices, when we don't have 2007 availability levels and demand is just self-delusional consumer backlash.
Pancho Villa
05-21-2009, 21:14
No one owes you ammo - at any price. Let alone what you think is "reasonable." The ammo belongs to them, and if they want to sell it at 10 bucks a round, that is perfectly within their rights. If someone is willing to buy it, well - why are you complaining?
 
The prices they are selling it for are the prices that it will move at. If you don't like it, go somewhere else.
 
Its simple supply & demand.
GunTroll
05-21-2009, 21:23
Oh no! Going down this road again! http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12808
theGinsue
05-21-2009, 22:34
Yeah, this thread is another train wreck waiting to happen
[Train]
Richard K
05-21-2009, 23:09
I have no problem with the concept of supply and demand but consider a 100% markup gouging.  When the price of gas was at an all time high people were screaming about price gouging but it's okay when it comes to ammo, right?
ChunkyMonkey
05-21-2009, 23:14
I have no problem with the concept of supply and demand but consider a 100% markup gouging.  When the price of gas was at an all time high people were screaming about price gouging but it's okay when it comes to ammo, right?
As long as we keep on buying. Unfortunately.. yes
If people pay the prices, I don't see it as gouging.  We can control the price with demand.  If everyone says fuck you to the companies selling at high prices, they will be forced to sell at a lower price or sit on the ammo.
theGinsue
05-22-2009, 00:51
I'm too cheap to pay the excessively high prices being asked for ammunition these days, but I can't blame the true retailers for charging what they do - so long as people are willing to pay it.  
 
Take the auto retail industry for example.  The prices for cars/trucks has been getting so out of hand that a 5 year load has become necessary.  A pickup shouldn't cost as much/more than the average annual salary of most consumers.  This is why the auto industry is in trouble.  The same thing can/will happen to the firearm & ammunition industry if true gouging is occuring.
 
What I do have an issue with is the folks who go into retail stores like WalMart and buy up all of the ammo (this is before the 6 box rule went into effect) and then resell it for double the price - or more.  THAT offends me.
Circuits
05-22-2009, 18:20
I have no problem with the concept of supply and demand but consider a 100% markup gouging.  When the price of gas was at an all time high people were screaming about price gouging but it's okay when it comes to ammo, right?
Nope, there was no price gouging there, either, and I posted much the same argument in those threads as I've done regarding the whining about ammo prices in the ammo threads.
The only way to "gouge" is if the seller is a sole supplier either through monopoly, or by law.
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