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Hound
06-24-2014, 16:41
I found this interesting. There have been several threads talking about "The Militarization of Police Dept.'s". This is a report that talks to how this is true. What I thought would be of interest is how merely owning a gun statically makes it more likely that SWAT would be called in. It talks to what many have stated on this forum but backs it up with some proof.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/06/24/new-aclu-report-takes-a-snapshot-of-police-militarization-in-the-united-states/


BY RADLEY BALKO (http://www.washingtonpost.com/pb/radley-balko) June 24 at 9:29 AMThe American Civil Liberties Union has released the results (https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/assets/jus14-warcomeshome-report-web-rel1.pdf) of its year-long study of police militarization. The study looked at 800 deployments of SWAT teams among 20 local, state and federal police agencies in 2011-2012. Among the notable findings:

62 percent of the SWAT raids surveyed were to conduct searches for drugs.
Just under 80 percent were to serve a search warrant, meaning eight in 10 SWAT raids were not initiated to apprehend a school shooter, hostage taker, or escaped felon (the common justification for these tactics), but to investigate someone still only suspected of committing a crime.
In fact, just 7 percent of SWAT raids were “for hostage, barricade, or active shooter scenarios.”
In at least 36 percent of the SWAT raids studies, no contraband of any kind was found. The report notes that due to incomplete police reports on these raids this figure could be as high as 65 percent.
SWAT tactics are disproportionately used on people of color.
65 percent of SWAT deployments resulted in some sort of forced entry into a private home, by way of a battering ram, boot, or some sort of explosive device. In over half those raids, the police failed to find any sort of weapon, the presence of which was cited as the reason for the violent tactics.
Ironically (or perhaps not), searches to serve warrants on people suspected of drug crimes were more likely to result in forced entry than raids conducted for other purposes.
Though often justified for rare incidents like school shootings or terrorist situations, the armored personnel vehicles police departments are getting from the Pentagon and through grants from the Department of Homeland Security are commonly used on drug raids. In other words, where violent, volatile SWAT tactics were once used only in limited situations where someone was in the process of or about to commit a violent crime — where the police were using violence only to defuse an already violent situation — SWAT teams today are overwhelmingly used to investigate people who are still only suspected of committing nonviolent consensual crimes. And because these raids often involve forced entry into homes, often at night, they’re actually creating violence and confrontation where there was none before.



When SWAT teams are used in a way that’s consistent with their original purpose, they’re used carefully and cautiously. The ACLU report finds that, “In nearly every deployment involving a barricade, hostage, or active shooter, the SWAT report provided specific facts that gave the SWAT team reason to believe there was an armed and often dangerous suspect.” By contrast . . .
. . . incident reports for search warrant executions, especially in drug investigations, often contained no information about why the SWAT team was being sent in, other than to note that the warrant was “high risk,” or else provided otherwise unsubstantiated information such as “suspect is believed to be armed.” In case after case that the ACLU examined, when a SWAT team was deployed to search a person’s home for drugs, officers determined that a person was “likely to be armed” on the basis of suspected but unfounded gang affiliations, past weapons convictions, or some other factor that did not truly indicate a basis for believing that the person in question was likely to be armed at the moment of the SWAT deployment. Of course, a reasonable belief that weapons are present should not by itself justify a SWAT deployment. Given that almost half of American households have guns, use of a SWAT team could almost always be justified if this were the sole factor.


But we’ve already seen cases in which the mere factor that the resident of a home was a legal gun owner — in some cases by virtue of the fact that the owner had obtained some sort of state license — was used as an excuse to execute a full-on SWAT raid to serve a warrant for an otherwise nonviolent crime. Of the SWAT raids the ACLU studied in which police cited the possibility of finding a weapon in the home, they actually found a weapon just 35 percent of the time.The report also finds almost no outside oversight on the use of SWAT tactics. This is consistent with my own research and reporting. The decision to send the SWAT team is often made by the SWAT commander or by fairly low-ranking officials within a police agency. Consequently, factors such as using the minimum amount of force necessary or the civil rights of the people who may be affected by the raid often aren’t taken into consideration. The ACLU, for example, found that although some police agencies in the survey were required to write after-action reports or present annual reports on the SWAT team, “internal reviews mostly pertain to proper weapons use and training and not to evaluating important civil rights implications of SWAT use.”A 2004 CLASSIFIED MEMO ALL BUT CONFIRMS THE BLURRING OF THE LINES BETWEEN THE DRUG WAR AND THE U.S. MILITARY BY CALLING THE DRUG ENFORCEMENT AGENCY (DEA) THE “OTHER” WARFIGHTER AND STATING THAT THE WAR ON DRUGS “HAS ALL THE RISKS, EXCITEMENT, AND DANGERS OF CONVENTIONAL WARFARE.”
— From the ACLU report on police militarization


The report also makes important contributions on other aspects of militarization that will be familiar to people who follow this issue, including the effect that militarization can have on the mindset of police officers, and the role that federal anti-drug grants have played in boosting this trend.
Finally, the ACLU concedes that its report is necessarily incomplete, because “[d]ata collecting and reporting in the context of SWAT was at best sporadic and at worst virtually nonexistent.”
The ACLU filed public records requests with more than 255 law enforcement agencies during the course of this investigation. One hundred and fourteen of the agencies denied the ACLU’s request, either in full or in part. Even if the ACLU had received and examined responsive documents from all 255 law enforcement agencies that received public records requests, this would represent only a sliver of the more than 17,000 law enforcement agencies that exist throughout the United States, and thus would shine only a dim light on the extent of police militarization throughout the country.

This, too, is consistent with my own experience. Among the excuses police agencies gave the ACLU for not turning over records were that the requested information “contained trade secrets,” that turning over such information could affect the effectiveness of SWAT teams and that the information requested was too broad, would cost too much to produce or wasn’t subject to open-records law. In short, we have police departments that are increasingly using violent, confrontational tactics to break into private homes for increasingly low-level crimes, and they seem to believe that the public has no right to know the specifics of when, how and why those tactics are being used.
This report is a valuable contribution to the public debate over police militarization. In some ways, it merely confirms what Eastern Kentucky University criminologist Peter Kraska already documented in the late 1990s (and what I documented in my book last year (http://www.amazon.com/Rise-Warrior-Cop-Militarization-Americas/dp/1610392116)). But Kraska’s last survey was in 2005, so this is an important new set of data conclusively demonstrating that the trends Kraska first documented nearly 20 years ago have only continued and have in some ways intensified. The most revealing part of the report, however, may be what isn’t in it. That is, that police agencies are using these tactics with increasing frequency but are doing so with sloppy and incomplete record-keeping, little heed for the safety and civil rights of the people on the receiving end of these raids and are troublingly reluctant to share any information about the tactics.
I’m sure that the report will generate lots of media coverage, just as Kraska’s studies did. The mass media seem to find renewed interest in this issue every five or six years. The problem, as the ACLU documents well, is that none of that coverage has generated any meaningful reform. And so the militarization continues. I’ll have more on the ACLU’s recommendations in a subsequent post. In the meantime, the ACLU has also released a series of videos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QKBDT4UKTE&list=PLwfdTKcPlB5nTMaaoFgWHmx9KiBjnUZf3&index=1) with snippets of raid footage it obtained in its investigation.

Great-Kazoo
06-24-2014, 16:50
You understand this is in relationship to numbers of "blacks / minorities" killed during a swat entry. The ACLU is neither White or Gun friendly.

merl
06-24-2014, 17:11
The ACLU may not care for the 2A but they do do good work on the rest.

275RLTW
06-24-2014, 17:37
Only surveyed 20 teams and 800 deployments??? Yeah, they really did their homework there. [sarcasm] I've seen better research at a 6th grade science fair.

asmo
06-24-2014, 17:40
Only surveyed 20 teams and 800 deployments??? Yeah, they really did their homework there. [sarcasm] I've seen better research at a 6th grade science fair.

Would any SWAT officer substantially disagree with the findings?

Great-Kazoo
06-24-2014, 18:34
The ACLU may not care for the 2A but they do do good work on the rest.

Not really, i contacted them regarding a discrimination case. Was told it's not something they had an interest in. This after 3 weeks of calls and e-mails, with documentation to back the story.

They are like those dead beat attorneys you see on TV. fatslobnozpiker won me $350K. Until you call and they tell you mmmmm something that small isn't worth our time, repeatedly.

Bailey Guns
06-24-2014, 18:58
I found this statement interesting (my bold):


Just under 80 percent were to serve a search warrant, meaning eight in 10 SWAT raids were not initiated to apprehend a school shooter, hostage taker, or escaped felon (the common justification for these tactics), but to investigate someone still only suspected of committing a crime.

Isn't everyone who hasn't been convicted "only suspected of committing a crime"? That seems to me to be an emotionally inflammatory statement. I can find little to like about the ACLU.

OneGuy67
06-24-2014, 19:00
Most agencies have a matrix they use to determine if a search warrant requires the use of a SWAT team, what type of response, etc. The matrix does have places for a history of violence, violence towards law enforcement, weapons, drugs, children and the like. Based upon the matrix is how a search warrant execution is determined.

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buffalobo
06-24-2014, 19:17
Not so much proof of the militarization of civilian police as evidence of the need of a discussion of the proper role/use of SWAT.

I lean toward depising the ACLU, but occasionally they bounce off of a legit issue.

lobbed from my electronic ball and chain

merl
06-24-2014, 19:31
I found this statement interesting (my bold):


Just under 80 percent were to serve a search warrant, meaning eight in 10 SWAT raids were not initiated to apprehend a school shooter, hostage taker, or escaped felon (the common justification for these tactics), but to investigate someone still only suspected of committing a crime.

Isn't everyone who hasn't been convicted "only suspected of committing a crime"? That seems to me to be an emotionally inflammatory statement. I can find little to like about the ACLU.

Read the rest of the examples in that sentence. There is suspected and there is "suspected." Sending SWAT after an active shooter, a barricade with hostages, etc is different from serving a warrant.

Bailey Guns
06-24-2014, 19:53
Doesn't change the fact that until a person is convicted of a crime they're still only suspected of committing a crime. Even an active shooter is only suspected until convicted.

Great-Kazoo
06-24-2014, 19:59
Doesn't change the fact that until a person is convicted of a crime they're still only suspected of committing a crime. Even an active shooter is only suspected until convicted.

Hence the media saying The Alleged Suspect ..

Irving
06-24-2014, 22:35
When we have to involve the sheriff in an eviction, one guy shows up. If we tell them we suspect a weapon might be on the property, two guys show up. What's the difference?
The guy that showed up to our eviction was an old dude that was totally relaxed. He told, "I'll go in first and check things out in case someone hung themselves in the closet."
We went in and there was a machete leaning up against the wall. Zero drama.

Hound
06-25-2014, 01:48
I think the complaints about the ACLU are BS. They tried to get more info but were denied, they point it out and that it shows even more how much secrecy is involved with PD's. Also, just because they fight for minorities does not discredit what they are showing here, which affects us all. We have all seen the MRAP's craziness that some PD's are going to and it points again to a militarization of the CIVILLIAN police. Somebody on here in a recent post pointed out that cops walking the beat and getting a free cup of coffee knew their area because they were part of that area. This was stopped in fear of it looking like a shake down by the police. What it really did was got rid of the Andy Griffith's of the world and made it more of an us against them..... From both sides. Now it seems like Barney has taken over and there is nobody to tell him ONLY one bullet and BTW keep it in your pocket.

Aloha_Shooter
06-25-2014, 08:38
I think the complaints about the ACLU are BS.

No, they're not BS. The ACLU has been virulently against the actual written words of the Constitution and American heritage for the past 30-40 years. That's not to excuse the cops or administration when they've been acting like Barney Fife or the police in "Rambo" but I always read any report from the ACLU with a great deal of skepticism. The ACLU and their brethren at the SLPC are directly responsible for a lot of the legal stupidities we have to deal with today including not being able to commit and treat obvious psychopaths.

Hound
06-25-2014, 17:53
I was talking to this thread and article, not the entire ACLU. That would be like damning the entire police force for the actions of some, neither would be fair. This article is pointing out [again] that the procedures may be off in many PD's. This is more poignant since it is pointing out that merely having a gun is a reason giving for the justification in many cases, which puts all of us on this forum in the cross hairs. I have not seen many others try to look into these types of questions. When somebody does and it points to mine and others legal gun ownership as the scapegoat for a full on SWAT invasion of my home.......... I think you should at least take a look.


No, they're not BS. The ACLU has been virulently against the actual written words of the Constitution and American heritage for the past 30-40 years. That's not to excuse the cops or administration when they've been acting like Barney Fife or the police in "Rambo" but I always read any report from the ACLU with a great deal of skepticism. The ACLU and their brethren at the SLPC are directly responsible for a lot of the legal stupidities we have to deal with today including not being able to commit and treat obvious psychopaths.

mindfold
06-25-2014, 19:44
I am safe from SWAT invading my house since my boating accident.


Sent from my tin foil coated mind reading device.

<MADDOG>
06-26-2014, 00:10
Would any SWAT officer substantially disagree with the findings?

This.

I say if you dispute the data, bring facts (and IMO, the ACLU isn't to far off on these).

Yes, the ACLU has it's own agenda, but every broken clock is right twice a day...

Hound
06-26-2014, 00:28
This.

I say if you dispute the data, bring facts (and IMO, the ACLU isn't to far off on these).

Yes, the ACLU has it's own agenda, but every broken clock is right twice a day...

^^^^ This

Alf Tanner
06-26-2014, 23:15
I am speculating that It's only a matter of time before there's a big case where someone is more prepared for one of these no knock raids than the po po are expecting and there's significant and unnecessary bloodshed

Hound
06-27-2014, 05:19
The problem is they will claim it justifies thier actions, "See, this is exactly why we do it!!".... "We need even more, not less". Ruby Ridge, coming to mind for anybody????

merl
06-27-2014, 07:02
http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/crime-law/renton-homeowner-wants-know-why-damage-swat-raid-h/nPcW7/



It’s been almost two months since a SWAT team’s mortars, grenades and tear gas canisters peppered Melinda De La Torre’s Renton home of 15 years, as officers looked for a suspect who wasn’t there.
...
The team descended on De La Torre’s home (http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/local/owners-want-know-who-will-pay-condo-torn-apart-swa/nMj9q/) on April 25 in a search for her son. Police said a woman had accused him of stealing from her and told police he was armed.

And look what is the top story at slashdot:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/06/26/massachusetts-swat-teams-claim-theyre-private-corporations-immune-from-open-records-laws/?tid=pm_pop

Massachusetts SWAT teams claim they’re private corporations, immune from open records laws
Could that be a part of why they made that report from a small sample size?

Great-Kazoo
06-27-2014, 07:52
http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/crime-law/renton-homeowner-wants-know-why-damage-swat-raid-h/nPcW7/



And look what is the top story at slashdot:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/06/26/massachusetts-swat-teams-claim-theyre-private-corporations-immune-from-open-records-laws/?tid=pm_pop

Could that be a part of why they made that report from a small sample size?

East and left coast urban mentality allows the LE to arm up. After all, the locals are not allowed to defend them self. Urbanites are complacent, they can be paid off. Use the SPLC as the good guy - bad guy meter.
WE'RE FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND HERE TO HELP..

merl
07-02-2014, 19:16
A nice compilation if potentially biased interpretations.
https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/the_us_supreme_court_is_marching_in_lockstep_with_ the_police_state

A review of the Supreme Court’s rulings over the past 10 years, including some critical ones this term, reveals a startling and steady trend towards pro-police state rulings by an institution concerned more with establishing order and protecting government agents than with upholding the rights enshrined in the Constitution.

Hound
07-02-2014, 22:48
A nice compilation if potentially biased interpretations.
https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/the_us_supreme_court_is_marching_in_lockstep_with_ the_police_state

A part of me wishes I had never read that. Good catch on that article.

And this one is spot on with the thread:


Legally owning a firearm is enough to justify a no-knock raid by police. Justices refused to hear Quinn v. Texas (2014) the case of a Texas man who was shot by police through his closed bedroom door and whose home was subject to a no-knock, SWAT-team style forceful entry and raid based solely on the suspicion that there were legally-owned firearms in his household.

buffalobo
07-03-2014, 04:51
More steps on the path...