Personal firearms philosophy

[William]

I want to switch from a philosophy of collecting many guns to consolidating to two firearms. I don't hunt.

1) Sidearm -- 9mm/.45 cal semi auto, currently Ruger P-95 DC in 9mm

2) Evil* black gun -- military in 5.56

I am thinking AR-15, 5.56; but I don't want to build my own. I prefer US made, w/flash suppresor and nice rails for standard accessories. Want a rifle that I will be happy with for a very long time. Top end $1500.

Suggestions?

*To Democrats and other unintelligent people.

[sniper7]

You need to expand more.

you need a shotgun, a carry gun and a home defense gun ( I guess these could be the same...but why!!)

at a minimum, you need 3 guns.

handgun, carbine and shotgun.

get a nice .45, find something you like. 1911 would be a great choice, but others will say glock, others will say XD45

shotgun, a nice 12 gauge. most guns eat anything, just get something that shoots 2 3/4 and 3" shells. can't go wrong with a tactical 870

rifle, get an AR. nothing evil about them. People swear by Colts, others by Noveske, others by LMT. pick and choose. they all work great.
Have at least 5-10 mags at a minimum. 500 rounds of ammo would be the very minimum.

this is the bare minimum in my opinion.

[blackford76]

I agree with Sniper. A 1911 .45, I prefer Kimber, but that is a personal choice. A 12 ga., I have Mossbergs, AR, I have S&W, Bushmaster, and a DPMS. If you can get reliable mags, a Ruger Mini-14 is an alternative. If you hadn't specified U.S. made, an AK 74 would be good too, and by far cheaper to shoot.

[William]

You need to expand more.

you need a shotgun, a carry gun and a home defense gun ( I guess these could be the same...but why!!)

at a minimum, you need 3 guns.

handgun, carbine and shotgun.

get a nice .45, find something you like. 1911 would be a great choice, but others will say glock, others will say XD45

shotgun, a nice 12 gauge. most guns eat anything, just get something that shoots 2 3/4 and 3" shells. can't go wrong with a tactical 870

rifle, get an AR. nothing evil about them. People swear by Colts, others by Noveske, others by LMT. pick and choose. they all work great.
Have at least 5-10 mags at a minimum. 500 rounds of ammo would be the very minimum.

this is the bare minimum in my opinion.

Did not mention that I plan on keeping my 12 gauge :) Remington 870 Express. Not tactical but reliable and without a plug holds a few shells.

On gunbroker it seems most of the complete AR-15s come in two price ranges: $800 or $1500 with a few in between. I am thinking I want the latter.

[William]

I agree with Sniper. A 1911 .45, I prefer Kimber, but that is a personal choice. A 12 ga., I have Mossbergs, AR, I have S&W, Bushmaster, and a DPMS. If you can get reliable mags, a Ruger Mini-14 is an alternative. If you hadn't specified U.S. made, an AK 74 would be good too, and by far cheaper to shoot.

Have an SKS now. I know not as sweet as an AK, but I am feeling patriotic these days.

[Aloha_Shooter]

What do you intend to use the rifle for? That should guide your purchase. I wouldn't advise going with the AR if you intend to do any long-distance shooting but most people don't. If you want ease of use and ammo/magazine compatibility, consider the Beretta 92fs/C-4 Storm combo. Of course they have limitations but there's something to be said for using the same ammo and mags between both your pistol and carbine (and the Storm is a fun plinker).

If you don't intend to get into a heavy firefight, consider the perfect companion to a 1911A1 would be an M-1 Garand ($995 plus $22.95 S&H gets you a Select Grade M-1 Garand delivered to your door!). You can feed it with CMP Greek surplus ammo -- $75 plus $8.95 S&H for 192 rds, again shipped to your door. Of course, all M-1 Garands in CMP inventory were built in the US although many have been loaned out to allied countries for a bit.

If the 8-round clip is too limiting for you, you can always get a service grade M-1 Carbine for anywhere between $495 and $674 plus S&H. As both a gun enthusiast and computer geek, I think there's something rather cool about carrying an IBM carbine. :D Then you can buy 15- or 30-round mags and load it up with their new manufacture Aguila ammo ($155/500 rds plus S&H). The downside to both these options is that the CMP is bogged down so you're looking at 6 months or so before delivery.

[gnihcraes]

three guns seems a little limiting. my opinion.

if this helps with the decision: don't all of you run at once, but there was a "new" bushmaster M4 at the pawn shop yesterday... $1200 i think, but they wheel and deal now and then. (it looked new to me... not a scratch on it)

(i don't work for them... just a customer now and then)

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[Mtn.man]

you cannot have enough guns...

Peace Through Superior Firepower.

[XJ]

Sooooo....whatcha gonna be sellin ;)


I prefer to have a small number of guns that are all business (reliable 22, glock 19, reliable AR, reliable 12ga, smith 629, accurate 308), and the rest just because they are interesting to me (because of mechanical design, cheap ammo, evil-ness, etc).

There are of course some "must-haves" in the second category like a 1911 and Garand, but those are for when deals come along. Others will prioritize differently of course, but I think a two-tier system may work for you as well.

[SNAFU]

Have tried this,,my 3 were,,, M1 Garand,and,Remmington 870 12ga,,Colt 1911A1 .45 acp

But needed some .22s

And a .44mag


Oh and AR15 for DCM/CMP


Add a bolt .308 for F Class type any /any comps

[SA Friday]

Dude, I'm not sure I can exist with just 3 AR's much less 3 guns only.

[M2]

[B2crawler]

Just two guns...I can't even get my brain around that sad thought. [Dunno]

[GunTroll]

2x15 maybe???

[William]

Just two guns...I can't even get my brain around that sad thought. [Dunno]

Just a debate in my head. Do I have lot's of guns , or a few bad ass guns. In the past have thought lot's of guns. But lately thinking maybe the latter.

Thought I would see what people had to say.

[Dr_Fwd]

just 3 guns?! Please tell me the secret how to stop yourself from getting more and more guns...

[ChunkyMonkey]

just 3 guns?! Please tell me the secret how to stop yourself from getting more and more guns...

Mariage, Money, Obama! Tada!

[Dr_Fwd]

Mariage, Money, Obama! Tada!

naahh... this things don't really work with me. there should be smthng else..

[ChunkyMonkey]

naahh... this things don't really work with me. there should be smthng else..

How about turning liberal? [ROFL1]

[Dr_Fwd]

How about turning liberal? [ROFL1]

THAT!!! That IS an answer!! [ROFL2][ROFL3][ROFL1]

[Marlin]

Heck, I have guns I don't have ammo for and ammo I don't have guns for....

[Bailey Guns]

I let my youngest ride my Harley and play with guns unsupervised.

Course...he's 24, has an endorsement and he's done 4 combat tours.

[Coffee]

[bjl913]

just 3 guns? I just walked into my house with 4 that i didnt have posession over 24 hours ago! bought 2 a couple weeks ago. didnt get anything last week though... had to buy holsters and such!

[Great-Kazoo]

I want to switch from a philosophy of collecting many guns to consolidating to two firearms. I don't hunt.

1) Sidearm -- 9mm/.45 cal semi auto, currently Ruger P-95 DC in 9mm

2) Evil* black gun -- military in 5.56

I am thinking AR-15, 5.56; but I don't want to build my own. I prefer US made, w/flash suppresor and nice rails for standard accessories. Want a rifle that I will be happy with for a very long time. Top end $1500.

Suggestions?

*To Democrats and other unintelligent people.


I've tried this 2X before. the only problem (ok a few problems) is
1) the safe looks empty & lonely with so little in there
2) you have a lot of space not being used (waste)
3) a good deal comes along, wasted space gets reduced
4) you find another 10/22 online, locally, or in a pwan shop for $150.00 or less.
5) the cycle continues.
6) there is the spouse and myself. so handgun, shottie, long gun makes 6 add a nice bolt action, then she wants one. bring home another gun. She shoots and likes it. there's another, and on and on........

[GunTroll]

Damn Jim you could be a life coach or something with that kind of answer to a question. Smart and logical!

[Great-Kazoo]

Damn Jim you could be a life coach or something with that kind of answer to a question. Smart and logical!

i am a P.C. ask me how i can help you, to help yourself.

no job to small, no question to stupid.

[William]

Sooooo....whatcha gonna be sellin ;)


I prefer to have a small number of guns that are all business (reliable 22, glock 19, reliable AR, reliable 12ga, smith 629, accurate 308), and the rest just because they are interesting to me (because of mechanical design, cheap ammo, evil-ness, etc).

There are of course some "must-haves" in the second category like a 1911 and Garand, but those are for when deals come along. Others will prioritize differently of course, but I think a two-tier system may work for you as well.

Just listed my SKS w/1000 rounds in the forums. Basically I want an AR, and I can't do it without selling stuff ...

[gnihcraes]

Just listed my SKS w/1000 rounds in the forums. Basically I want an AR, and I can't do it without selling stuff ...

this method has worked well for me lately... got rid of unwanted oddball items and purchased quality arms... now the safe has room to spare for new items... :)

[theGinsue]

i am a P.C.

I'm a Mac. [ROFL1]

Okay, not really, but I just couldn't resist. By P.C., I assume you mean something like Personal Counselor? 'Cuz if it's anything medical, I have this rash I'd like someone to look at......[Coffee]

Somebody stop me - it's late, I'm tired, and the camper I REALLY want and got just got my wife to agree to has someone I know in line ahead of me for it at the RV dealer. (Maybe I DO need therapy)

My personal firearms philosopy: Why limit yourself? You can never have too many guns. Each firearm is different and provides it's own special type of joy in shooting it.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Yes, two of each kind. [Coffee]

[RRD3]

I have so many in my house for defense that if someone broke in I would freeze for a second trying to decide which one to use. [ROFL1]

[Mtn.man]

News Flash (ap)

Burglar breaks into house shot by owner multiple times, with
357, 44, 12ga, 45, 38, 22, 32, 380, 223, 308, and a few other undetermined.
perp is NOT expected to survive.

[Colorado Osprey]

I think the deal there is if they are stashed all over the house you get which ever is in arms reach. Why go to the other side of the room or in a different room for a different gun if someone is breaking in?

You can always get the one closest, then decide if you need more than one or a different one and work your way there while armed.......

I know many people and many house where multiple guns are stashed in every room.... and they still have a safe full of guns. (safe queens)

[ChunkyMonkey]

http://www.news9.com/Global/story.asp?S=10430100

[sniper7]

http://www.news9.com/Global/story.asp?S=10430100


Did you see the story below that one? Pharmacist shot a would be robber in the head, chased another robber out, came back, got another gun, blasted the robber laying on the floor 5 times finishing him off...now the guy is getting charged with first degree murder[Bang]

[Birddog1911]

I've actually simplified my guns as well. For a while, I wanted to be like my dad and have a large number. But I decided that it was best to have just a few, and make sure that they are quality and outfitted the way I truly wanted them.

I've paired down to a 1911, a .38 S&W that was my mom's, an 870HD, my AR, and my PSL for longer range targets. Some of you might crap on the PSL, but I realize that it isn't a one holer at 600 yards. But I can put them all where I want them, and ammo is damned cheap, too. And of course, a 10/22 rifle as well in heavy barrel.