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bryjcom
07-04-2014, 09:31
Just figured I'd post the entire text of the greatest statement of human liberty ever written.

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.


We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.



In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.


We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

rondog
07-04-2014, 10:16
OMG, paragraphs man, paragraphs!

bryjcom
07-04-2014, 10:21
OMG, paragraphs man, paragraphs!


There!

Will that appease your simple mind??? LOL

HBARleatherneck
07-04-2014, 10:44
I think I have seen that before somewhere...


Peope really do need to read this document.

buffalobo
07-04-2014, 11:05
I think I have seen that before somewhere...


Peope really do need to read this document.


+1, my money says that 50% of "Americans" on the street, if handed this text


When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.


We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.


In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.


We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.




with no title or comment, could not identify it. They may recognize some of the statements and proscribe some importance/significance to it, but not identify it.

bryjcom
07-04-2014, 11:27
I think I have seen that before somewhere...


Peope really do need to read this document.

I've been wanting to get a decent copy of one and put it in the house somewhere.

Somebody inspired me.........

theGinsue
07-04-2014, 11:29
238 years ago, our leaders (and they were true leaders, unlike our officials today) truly knew how to write with simplicity, sufficient brevity, eloquence and authority. They knew how to write documents that would stand up against the sands of time yet without all of the legal mumbo-jumbo we see in todays national documents. Their writings demonstrated respectable authority and determination. While todays high school graduates are provided a better education than most of our Founders received, they possessed a level of class we've lost long ago. They wrote so well, even without the benefit of dictionaries, spell-check, thesaurus, because of the passion and conviction behind their words.

So many of their writings, most especially this Declaration of Independence, were/are works of art.

DireWolf
07-04-2014, 13:05
+1, my money says that 50% of "Americans" on the street, if handed this text......


......with no title or comment, could not identify it. They may recognize some of the statements and proscribe some importance/significance to it, but not identify it.


Unfortunately, I think that number is waaay higher than 50%.....and if you count the numbers who make the connetion that nearly ALL of the enumerated grievances against the crown (which led to this whole party) have been fully "owned" (read: perpetrated) by our current wannabe king, you've got even less......(just replace a few words/titles and you've got direct present-day applicability)


I've been wanting to get a decent copy of one and put it in the house somewhere.

Somebody inspired me.........

They sell a really nice little pocket-sized copy/book on Amazon for a few bucks.....I have a couple that I keep around...

Aloha_Shooter
07-04-2014, 13:31
I've been wanting to get a decent copy of one and put it in the house somewhere.

Somebody inspired me.........

46747
http://store.ushistory.org/showitem.asp?iid=68&cid=36

Bailey Guns
07-04-2014, 13:35
Why, in God's name, would anyone want to "fundamentally change" a country based on that founding document and the Constitution of the United States.

Oh...unless you're a communist.

rondog
07-04-2014, 15:30
Hell, I'd say it's a safe bet that over 50% of the elected officials in this entire country wouldn't recognize it.

Great-Kazoo
07-04-2014, 15:40
Why, in God's name, would anyone want to "fundamentally change" a country based on that founding document and the Constitution of the United States.

Oh...unless you're a communist.

Because it's an out dated document, Like that one with the 2nd amendment. I mean REALLY, how did a well regulated militia ,turn in to teanuts with WMD's designed to do nothing but kill and wreak carnage across the school grounds of this land.

And that my friend is how 50% + see anything related to Liberty, Freedom and INDEPENDENCE in todays. GIMME MORE GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS society.

beast556
07-04-2014, 15:48
Cracker barrel restraunts in there little store have the constitution, bill or rights and the deceleration of independence posters. They were around 9$ each I think.

Aloha_Shooter
07-04-2014, 21:58
Hell, I'd say it's a safe bet that over 50% of the elected officials in this entire country wouldn't recognize it.

No bet here since Dems hold a majority in the Senate and sizable minority in the House -- and there are a number of Republicans who probably wouldn't recognize it either.

Irving
07-05-2014, 00:39
Cracker barrel restraunts in there little store have the constitution, bill or rights and the deceleration of independence posters. They were around 9$ each I think.

Hobby Lobby has a bunch of them.

Irving
07-05-2014, 01:20
I've never read this before. I've only read the Constitution. It sounds a lot like the Declaration of Independence, but it could also be a check list of wrongs that our government has committed over the last 100 years. Every year we should have a thread that details which of these same list items have been violated, and why.

bryjcom
07-05-2014, 10:45
I've never read this before. I've only read the Constitution. It sounds a lot like the Declaration of Independence, but it could also be a check list of wrongs that our government has committed over the last 100 years. Every year we should have a thread that details which of these same list items have been violated, and why.

"He has erected a multitude of new offices and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people and eat out their substance."

HBARleatherneck
07-05-2014, 10:58
Hobby Lobby has a bunch of them.

I had no idea you could buy them locally. Of course from those stores they are probably printed in china.

I paid more for mine. I bought mine online somewhere and they said made and printed in America. Yes, it matters to me.

Irving
07-05-2014, 11:30
Hobby Lobby just has rolled up posters. I'll go look for mine and see what it says.

I don't think I've seen what you have, so likely my Hobby Lobby suggestion is not comparable.

EDIT: Here is my Constitution. It is printed on a wrinkled up parchment paper so it looks more authentic, not glossy poster paper. Anyway, it was $5.99 at Hobby Lobby and they had a few other ones. Couldn't find anything about China or where it was printed, but it was probably still China.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3Oa_4SCvrps/U7g97YyFc2I/AAAAAAAAKW4/AhGlFgWlpDM/w999-h562-no/20140705_120314_Richtone%2528HDR%2529.jpg

bryjcom
07-04-2016, 08:26
TTT

Gman
07-04-2016, 08:43
I guess I missed this a couple of years ago. It didn't dawn on me that these were old posts until I read Aloha's regarding the Dem. majorities.

The founders risked everything to carve out this bastion of freedom. It's a shame watching this country decline so quickly.

bryjcom
07-04-2016, 09:50
I guess I missed this a couple of years ago. It didn't dawn on me that these were old posts until I read Aloha's regarding the Dem. majorities.

The founders risked everything to carve out this bastion of freedom. It's a shame watching this country decline so quickly.

Its the natural order..... Sad to say
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2RPpZZu2a-o/UAyaE6xk6XI/AAAAAAAAAPc/uccgjmZKbGI/s1600/Tytler+cycle+cdr+modified+071712.jpg

ray1970
07-04-2016, 11:13
The founders risked everything to carve out this bastion of freedom. It's a shame watching this country decline so quickly.

Unfortunately, without an actual revolution and outright overthrow of the current system, I'm afraid the trend we're seeing of ever decreasing freedoms is just going to continue until our country becomes so weak and vulnerable that we are overtaken by our enemies.

As a society, we lack the fortitude and courage to undertake such an endeavor so ultimately we are doomed to fail.

You see oppressed people in other countries fighting against their tyrannical governments against nearly insurmountable odds. We might, as a whole, be the best equipped nation to rise up against our own government but I doubt that would ever happen here. No matter how bad it gets.

theGinsue
07-04-2016, 11:55
My annual 4th of July post, without any comment to our current situation:

As a veteran & citizen of this great country I take special pride and understanding in what this holiday we celebrate today represents.

As we enjoy our Fourth of July celebrations today, let is not forget what we are truly celebrating. On this day in 1776 the Second Continental Congress came together to sign the Declaration of Independence. This was an unprecedented document/action at the time but was essential for the citizens, then "subjects" of the Crown, to make. This document clearly laid out our grievances with the Crown and stated why we could not continue living under the Crown's rule.

In those days, the People of the American colonies, which were then composed of 13 states, faced oppressive taxation with no say in how they were governed. They were under the governing body of a monarchy which didn't care one bit about the needs or desires of the people under it, only the revenue those people could bring it.

Deciding enough was enough, the People of the States of the American colonies declared that they had the God-given right of self determination, a right to control their own destiny. They united (becoming 13 "United States"), stood up and penned this document declaring our independence from the tyranny we lived under. They pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honour. These men, our "Founding Fathers", knew their actions would likely be signing their own death warrants. Even so, they felt it was better to die on their feet free than live on their knees as slaves to the monarchy.

Their words, quoted in the OP, hold true and strong even today. These are the words which formed our nation.

beast556
07-04-2016, 12:26
Hobby Lobby just has rolled up posters. I'll go look for mine and see what it says.

I don't think I've seen what you have, so likely my Hobby Lobby suggestion is not comparable.

EDIT: Here is my Constitution. It is printed on a wrinkled up parchment paper so it looks more authentic, not glossy poster paper. Anyway, it was $5.99 at Hobby Lobby and they had a few other ones. Couldn't find anything about China or where it was printed, but it was probably still China.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3Oa_4SCvrps/U7g97YyFc2I/AAAAAAAAKW4/AhGlFgWlpDM/w999-h562-no/20140705_120314_Richtone%2528HDR%2529.jpg

Just an FYI the ones cracker barrel sells are made in USA. If i rember corectly they were 8.99$, they have a bunch right now.

HoneyBadger
07-04-2016, 15:18
Hobby Lobby just has rolled up posters. I'll go look for mine and see what it says.

I don't think I've seen what you have, so likely my Hobby Lobby suggestion is not comparable.

EDIT: Here is my Constitution. It is printed on a wrinkled up parchment paper so it looks more authentic, not glossy poster paper. Anyway, it was $5.99 at Hobby Lobby and they had a few other ones. Couldn't find anything about China or where it was printed, but it was probably still China.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3Oa_4SCvrps/U7g97YyFc2I/AAAAAAAAKW4/AhGlFgWlpDM/w999-h562-no/20140705_120314_Richtone%2528HDR%2529.jpg


Turns out, Hobby Lobby still shows these for sale on their website (although currently out of stock). I put my email address in for notification when they are back in stock. I need this in my life.

HoneyBadger
07-04-2016, 20:27
Deceleration of independence. I like it, I think it accurately describes whats been happening over the past few decades.

I have the framed hobby lobby ones btw. They don't just sell posters. Got them in 2012.
I was looking at those too... Right now they are offering 40% off the most expensive item in your cart and free shipping on orders over $60. How is the quality of the print? Does it look like it is on parchment-style paper? Is it readable? The pics on their website weren't very clear.

GilpinGuy
07-05-2016, 00:00
Hell yeah. I want one.

The other day I got into a discussion about the Constitution with an imbecile at work. He was confused so I whipped out my pocket Constitution from my briefcase and he was like "WTF! You have that in your briefcase!!!!?"

Circuits
07-05-2016, 01:36
The saddest part, really, is that the "intolerable" tax burden on the founders was much, much less than the taxes we already pay today.

We just live in a society of such abundance, that even as heavily taxed as we already are, we have much, much more in the way of wealth and material goods than most of our forefathers of that time did.

HoneyBadger
07-05-2016, 04:47
Hell yeah. I want one.

The other day I got into a discussion about the Constitution with an imbecile at work. He was confused so I whipped out my pocket Constitution from my briefcase and he was like "WTF! You have that in your briefcase!!!!?"

I hope you had your concealed weapons permit.... You can't just go whipping that thing out in public!

Gman
07-05-2016, 18:09
The saddest part, really, is that the "intolerable" tax burden on the founders was much, much less than the taxes we already pay today.
Yeah, 2%.