Remington 700 Mag Question

[KevDen2005]

Hey everyone,

I am sort of new to long distance/precision shooting. I recently purchased a used Remington 700 in .308. The rifle came with a Wyatt's Outdoors detachable magazine. I would also like to use the rifle for hunting so I am looking for a 4 round mag for it. Is it worth it or do I need to buy the parts to switch the rifle back to the internal magazine only. I would like to keep the detachable mag set up, I really like it. Some guidance please.

Thanks.

[ColoWyo]

This is the only thing I could find in the big game regs:

If semiautomatic, a maximum of six rounds are allowed in the magazine
and chamber combined.

I thought you could only have 5 in a bolt gun, but I don't see anything regarding it. Cant you just buy a 5 round mag for the Wyatt system?

[KevDen2005]

This is the only thing I could find in the big game regs:

If semiautomatic, a maximum of six rounds are allowed in the magazine
and chamber combined.

I thought you could only have 5 in a bolt gun, but I don't see anything regarding it. Cant you just buy a 5 round mag for the Wyatt system?

I can buy the 5 round magazine and own one, but like you, I was under the impression I could only have 5 total rounds (4 in mag and one in chamber).

I have never hunted before and only recently completed hunter's ed. However, I don't really remember this being a major topic and can vaguely remember them skimming over it. I am not sure why I did not ask more in depth questions on it and wish I would have, my fault for sure. I guess at the time I just wanted that weekend to be over.

[ColoWyo]

I should have said 5+1 in the chamber. I THINK you're good to go. Kind of odd there's nothing in there about the 5+1 thing. I swear that was in there at one point. Lots of people use the AI mags with the Badger set up. I'm 99.9999% sure it's kosher.

[J]

Yep. Only restriction is on semi autos. Bolt guns can have more rounds in the gun. Even then... The reg is clear that a 5 round magazine is allowed.

[KevDen2005]

Yep. Only restriction is on semi autos. Bolt guns can have more rounds in the gun. Even then... The reg is clear that a 5 round magazine is allowed.

Thank you. I want to make sure that I am well within the law when I hunt. I appreciate the feedback.

Now that we're on the topic (I know this is more of a hunting topic now instead of long range rifle question), the scope I have has an illuminated reticle. I am aware that is not allowed. I am able to remove the battery and it will not illuminate. Will that be allowed? I am planning on calling DOW about this, but wanted to see what the consensus was with you guys.

[ColoWyo]

Where does it say that a illuminated reticle is not allowed? I have used scopes with illuminated reticles for years.

This is the entire section on centerfire rifles. You should be good with your scope.

1. CenTeRfIRe RIfles
a. Must be minimum of .24 caliber (6 mm).
b. Must have a minimum 16-inch barrel and be at least 26 inches long.
c. If semiautomatic, a maximum of six rounds are allowed in the magazine
and chamber combined.
d. Must use expanding bullets that weigh minimum 70 grains for deer,
pronghorn and bear, 85 grains for elk and moose, and have an impact
energy (at 100 yards) of 1,000-ft. pounds as rated by manufacturer.
e. It is illegal to hunt game birds, small-game mammals or furbearers with a
centerfire rifle larger than .23 caliber during regular rifle deer and elk sea-sons west of I-25, without an unfilled deer or elk license for the season. Asmall-game, furbearer or unfilled big-game license is required.

[kidicarus13]

Now that we're on the topic (I know this is more of a hunting topic now instead of long range rifle question), the scope I have has an illuminated reticle. I am aware that is not allowed. I am able to remove the battery and it will not illuminate. Will that be allowed? I am planning on calling DOW about this, but wanted to see what the consensus was with you guys.

Not allowed? Where are you reading this? Are you talking about the section that mentions using artificial light to hunt?

[Jamnanc]

The illuminated stuff is about bow sights.

[KevDen2005]

The illuminated stuff is about bow sights.

Thank you for the clarification.

I got that illuminated scopes were not allowed from my hunter's ed class.

[KevDen2005]

Not allowed? Where are you reading this? Are you talking about the section that mentions using artificial light to hunt?

Yes, I was told artificial light including reticles that are illuminated are not allowed.

[KevDen2005]

I know this is now turning into a hunting topic and mods I apologize.

After re-reading some of the other regulations I am starting to think the guy teaching my hunter's ed class didn't know a whole lot. I am reading about giving game away and the restrictions and he was way off on all that, even going as far to say a large amount of processed meat in your freezer could be probable cause for DOW to search it and cite you (which of course I didn't believe), but lots of crappy guidance on the instructor's part.

[Lars]

I use Trijicon scopes on a few of my hunting rifles and they are legal, so you shouldn't have any issues with your scope. I also have an extended box on a Creedmoor that I use antelope hunting. It holds six or seven in the mag box, when I called DOW, I was told that it was fine as it wasn't semi-auto and wasn't a detachable mag. You may want to give them a call to verify.

[J]

Reading the regs is better than calling to ask. He is fine. No where do the regs prohibit detachable mags.

[Lars]

Reading the regs is better than calling to ask. He is fine. No where do the regs prohibit detachable mags. you are correct that detachable mags are not prohibited, and I wasn't saying that they where. What I'm trying to say is that detachable mags like the Badger ordinance and ones similar are generally found on semi-auto rifles not bolt guns so a higher capacity detachable mag could be a grey area if you were to get approached by the wrong guy. Yes the regs specify semi-auto, but that was also wrote before the surge of the more modern tactical style rifles being used today. We all know that laws and regs can always be interpreted in different ways by different people, so would hurt to error on the side of caution and call and talk to somebody.

[KevDen2005]

Reading the regs is better than calling to ask. He is fine. No where do the regs prohibit detachable mags.

Thanks J,

After reading the regs and seeing what you guys posted (literally from the regs verbatim), it is a lot more simple than I thought. It's almost like there are fewer restrictions than people make out. So basically I should follow what it says and if something isn't said don't over think it.

[J]

you are correct that detachable mags are not prohibited, and I wasn't saying that they where. What I'm trying to say is that detachable mags like the Badger ordinance and ones similar are generally found on semi-auto rifles not bolt guns so a higher capacity detachable mag could be a grey area if you were to get approached by the wrong guy. Yes the regs specify semi-auto, but that was also wrote before the surge of the more modern tactical style rifles being used today. We all know that laws and regs can always be interpreted in different ways by different people, so would hurt to error on the side of caution and call and talk to somebody.


Yeah. I get what you are saying. But after I started dealing with the ATF on a semi regular basis I've decided for myself that calling about laws and rules is seldom fruitful. Ive literally called twice within an hour and gotten two completely different answers. Plus no proof I got that answer if a third agent were to ever take exception with what I was doing.

I just don't trust calling any more. Is rather read the regs, and be able to pull them out and show a game warden exactly what they say rather than tell him that someone at the Broadway office on the phone said it was OK.

[J]

Thanks J,

After reading the regs and seeing what you guys posted (literally from the regs verbatim), it is a lot more simple than I thought. It's almost like there are fewer restrictions than people make out. So basically I should follow what it says and if something isn't said don't over think it.

Yep. That's why they print em up every year. They will be your bible.