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MED
07-07-2014, 10:37
My parents showed this to me last night, and I thought I would share. This is a good read, and it is nice to see that somebody will actually just say it.
http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell061014.php3#.U7rIZVF38Yw


Jewish World Review (http://www.jewishworldreview.com/) June 10, 2014 / 12 Sivan, 5774
The Prisoner Swap Deal

By Thomas Sowell


JewishWorldReview.com |People are arguing about what the United States got out of the deal that swapped five top level terrorist leaders for one American soldier who was, at best, absent from his post in a war zone. Soldiers who served in the same unit with him call him a deserter. The key to this deal, however, is less likely to be what the United States got out of the deal than it is about what Barack Obama got out of the deal. If nothing else, it instantly got the veterans' hospitals scandals off the front pages of newspapers and pushed these scandals aside on television news programs.

It was a clear winner for Barack Obama. And that may be all that matters to Barack Obama.
People who are questioning the president's competence seem not to want to believe that any President of the United States would knowingly damage this country's interests.
One of the problems of many fundamentally decent people is that they find it hard to understand people who are not fundamentally decent, or whose moral compass points in a different direction from theirs.

Many people who are painfully disappointed with President Obama have no real reason to be. The man's whole previous history, from childhood on, was shaped by a whole series of people, beginning with his mother, whose vision of America was very much like that of the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, whose church Barack Obama belonged to for 20 long years.

Obama is not a stupid man. There is no way that he could have sat in that church all that time without knowing how Jeremiah Wright hated America, and how his vision of the world was one in which "white folks' greed runs a world in need."

Even if the Reverend Wright had been the only such person in Barack Obama's life — and he was not — it should have been enough to keep him out of the White House.
"Innocent until proven guilty" is a good rule in a court of law, which has the power to deprive a defendant of liberty or life. But it is mindless and dangerous nonsense to apply that standard outside that context — especially when choosing a President of the United States, who holds in his hands the liberty and lives of millions of Americans.

People who are disappointed with Barack Obama have no right to be. It is they whom others have a right to be disappointed with. Instead of taking their role as citizens seriously, they chose to vote on the basis of racial symbolism, glib rhetoric and wishful thinking.

Moreover, many are already talking about choosing the next President of the United States on the basis of demographic symbolism — to have "the first woman president." And if she is elected on that basis, will any criticism of what she does in the White House be denounced as based on anti-woman bias, as criticisms of President Obama have been repeatedly denounced as racism?

And what if we have the first Hispanic president or the first Jewish president? Will any criticism of their actions in the White House be silenced by accusations of prejudice?
We may yet become the first nation to die from a terminal case of frivolity. Other great nations in history have been threatened by barbarians at the gates. We may be the first to be threatened by self-indulgent silliness inside the gates.

As for Barack Obama, you cannot judge any President's competence by the results of his policies, without first knowing what he was trying to achieve.

Many wise and decent people assume automatically that President Obama was trying to serve the interests of America. From that standpoint, he has failed abysmally, both at home and abroad. And that should legitimately call his competence into question.
But what if his vision of the world is one in which the wealth and power of those at the top, whether at home or internationally, are deeply resented, and have been throughout his life, under the tutelage of a whole series of resenters? And what if his goal is to redress that imbalance?

Who can say that he has failed, when the fundamental institutions of this country have been successfully and perhaps irretrievably undermined, and when the positions of America and its allies on the world stage have been similarly, and even more dangerously, undermined around the world?

Aloha_Shooter
07-07-2014, 10:39
I have always liked Sowell's columns and commentaries. This is no exception to his decades of clear-headed rational thinking.

roberth
07-07-2014, 11:55
Sowell is an excellent writer and like usual he is on target.

Obama's plan is to fundamentally change America, he has succeeded on all counts.

America is no longer the "shining beacon on the hill", America is more like every other shithole country on the planet where individual rights are stomped into the ground to make way for an omnipotent government.

An omnipotent government that selects which businesses will succeed or fail, selects which laws it wants to enforce, applies the rights of certain groups of people over other groups...and i could go on.

If you voted for Obama you voted for all of this....hope you're happy you sons-a-bitches.

kidicarus13
07-07-2014, 12:09
If you voted for Obama you voted for all of this....hope you're happy you sons-a-bitches.

I will second this sentiment

roberth
07-07-2014, 14:15
I will second this sentiment

They don't understand that by their own ignorance and selfishness not only have they hurt their enemies, they have hurt themselves even worse.

Anyone with even the most rudimentary understanding of true history knows that socialism/communism/marxism cannot work, humans by their very nature operate counter to these philosophies, The only way these philosophies can work is by force and even then we can see where human nature in part defeated the USSR and caused China to move towards a more capitalist society.

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need is not a long term solution, it simply widens the chasm between the elite and the impoverished.

Great-Kazoo
07-07-2014, 14:44
If you voted for Obama you voted for all of this....hope you're happy you sons-a-bitches.


I will second this sentiment

Wait for the members who voted for him to deny it. OR start some oligarch, capitalist rant in L&P. bark

kidicarus13
07-07-2014, 15:22
Wait for the members who voted for him to deny it. OR start some oligarch, capitalist rant in L&P. bark

Or blame Bush for turning over a country in crisis to Obummer. HOPE AND CHANGE baby! Hopefully we'll see it in 2016.

Kraven251
07-07-2014, 15:47
We have a society that believed that words could make a difference, but forgot that words without actions are hollow and meaningless. Unfortunately, reality will not set in until the country is piecing itself back together after a catastrophic failure ...that makes 2008 and 1929 look like a walk in the park.

Aloha_Shooter
07-07-2014, 16:14
We have a society that believed that words could make a difference, but forgot that words without actions are hollow and meaningless. Unfortunately, reality will not set in until the country is piecing itself back together after a catastrophic failure ...that makes 2008 and 1929 look like a walk in the park.

I'm still flabbergasted by people that compare 2008 to 1929 without realizing just how bad things were in 1978-1980. Things in 2010-2011 were (IMO) worse than 1980 but 2007-2008 were a picnic comparatively. It took Obama to really drive it into the ground and Jimmy Carter should be doing cartwheels over how Obama has replaced him as the worst president of the past 100 years.

Kraven251
07-07-2014, 16:19
I'm still flabbergasted by people that compare 2008 to 1929 without realizing just how bad things were in 1978-1980. Things in 2010-2011 were (IMO) worse than 1980 but 2007-2008 were a picnic comparatively. It took Obama to really drive it into the ground and Jimmy Carter should be doing cartwheels over how Obama has replaced him as the worst president of the past 100 years.

I was 2 in '78, lived through 2008, and 1929 got all the coverage in the history books.

Singlestack
07-08-2014, 06:56
"As for Barack Obama, you cannot judge any President's competence by the results of his policies, without first knowing what he was trying to achieve."

Although I agree with much of what Sowell said, I strongly disagree with this statement. Results matter. Too often, politicians support policies without considering or caring what the unintended consequences might be. What is the correct saying? "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"

Using Sowell's reasoning, if Beeho was allowing the open Southern border on the basis of believing it would lead to improved racial unity, then we should give him a pass on the horrible actual results? No way.

Bailey Guns
07-08-2014, 07:17
"As for Barack Obama, you cannot judge any President's competence by the results of his policies, without first knowing what he was trying to achieve."

Although I agree with much of what Sowell said, I strongly disagree with this statement. Results matter. Too often, politicians support policies without considering or caring what the unintended consequences might be. What is the correct saying? "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"

Using Sowell's reasoning, if Beeho was allowing the open Southern border on the basis of believing it would lead to improved racial unity, then we should give him a pass on the horrible actual results? No way.

I think you may be misunderstanding what he's saying.

For example, judging Obamacare as a failure. To most rational people Obamacare looks like a total disaster and if judged simply by our traditional standards most would say the new health care law/policies implemented by Obama and O-care are failures. However, if you understand the reasoning behind it...to move the country into a European socialist style system with the ultimate goal of creating a single-payer (government) system, then it could be seen as a success. Not by me or perhaps you, but by the people who believe in and want that type of system.

So, keeping his goals in mind, judge the results by what he wanted, not by what you (or I) wanted.

Singlestack
07-08-2014, 10:00
I hear ya. With Beeho, however, the gap between what we know of his intentions and actions taken is often huge. In rare cases, he tips his hand as to his true intentions - such as the famous "you didn't build that" speech from a few years ago. Says much about his disdain for small business and desire for increasing taxation and regulation.

Having said that, I do believe the man is fundamentally evil and intends for bad things to happen to America. His constant lies means the only things he says that can be trusted are those which are destructive to the Constitution and America. I am finding that one can fairly accurately predict his actions in response to any situation based on previous actions. I ignore what he says his intentions are, as that has no reliable link to his actions.

Bailey Guns
07-08-2014, 12:47
Absolutely. There's no doubt Obama will ALWAYS take the radical leftist approach to policy. And from that perspective, I agree that he's evil because socialism/communism is evil. But that's his nature, most likely due to his upbringing. So I'd have to agree with Sowell that, from the conservative perspective his policies are failing. But from the leftist perspective, not so much.

centrarchidae
07-08-2014, 15:13
Although I agree with much of what Sowell said, I strongly disagree with this statement. Results matter. Too often, politicians support policies without considering or caring what the unintended consequences might be. What is the correct saying? "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"

That's only true if you give Fbho credit for good intentions to begin with. I don't think Sowell is giving him any such credit. If you think that Fbho is actively trying to pursue the Cloward-Piven strategy (short version: make civil society collapse so that you can be the hero by making everybody dependent on you) then he's almost competent. Utterly evil, but almost competent.

Kind of like the product of Palpatine committing unnatural sexual acts on Jar-Jar Binks.