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wctriumph
07-20-2014, 14:32
This really going too far. Out of Illinois and stupid. I have already email my congressman and asked that he vote against this if comes to a vote. Ridiculous.

http://www.guns.com/2014/07/18/congress-going-after-kids-shooting-sports-branded-clothing-and-colorful-youth-guns/?utm_source=feedly&utm_reader=feedly&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=congress-going-after-kids-shooting-sports-branded-clothing-and-colorful-youth-guns

This week Congress Democrats introduced a bill to outlaw the marketing of guns and gun brands to the country’s youth on clothes or by making guns that appeal to kids.
The ban which would be enforced by the Federal Trade Commission, will require warning labels on youth-sized firearms and ban child-sized clothing branded by shooting groups such as the National Rifle Association, or with of the logos of gun makers.
The bill in question, H.R. 5093 (https://beta.congress.gov/113/bills/hr5093/BILLS-113hr5093ih.pdf), titled the Children’s Firearm Marketing Safety Act, would prohibit any person from marketing firearms to youth under 18 by setting a number of rules. These would include banning the use of any cartoon characters to promote firearms products, the making of branded hats, t-shirts and other apparel in child-sizes by gun makers, and the production of stuffed animals branded by members of the shooting industry.
In addition to the clothing and cartoon bans, the bill also prohibits manufacturing guns designed “with a purpose to appeal to children.” For guns designed with younger shooters in mind, the legislation would requiring labeling on the firearm reading to the effect of “Actual firearm the use of which may result in death or serious bodily injury” or ‘Real gun, not a toy.”
Introduced by Rep. Robin Kelly (D-Ill), it comes among a host of legislation aimed at tackling gun violence from the freshman congressional representative from Chicago. Kelly has already made a name for herself among gun-control groups on the hill with her 66-page (http://robinkelly.house.gov/sites/robinkelly.house.gov/files/wysiwyg_uploaded/KellyReport_1.pdf) 2014 Kelly Report on Gun Violence in America released last month.
The study, which recommends investing in smart gun technologies and repealing gun manufacturers’ immunity to allow gun violence victims to sue for damages, was hailed by groups such as the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, the Newtown Action Alliance, and Americans for Responsible Solutions.
“America has a gun violence problem. It’s time that we face it head on by instituting common sense gun reforms to save lives,” Rep. Kelly said (http://robinkelly.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/congresswoman-kelly-releases-2014-kelly-report-on-gun-violence-in)on the release on her report in June.
http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/cricket-rifle-300x225.jpg (http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/cricket-rifle.jpg)
Many gun makers, market youth model firearms, often simple .22 caliber single shot rifles, in bright, attractive colors. (Photo credit: Crickett)
Second amendment scholars have taken the time to weigh in on the constitutionality of Kelly’s novel new bill on gun marketing.
“There’s no doubt that there’s a problem with under-18-year-old gun criminals. But I’m pretty sure that few such criminals are drawn to guns because they’ve seen a gun-promoting stuffed animals,” wrote UCLA School of Law professor in his column for the Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/07/17/federal-bill-to-restrict-the-content-of-gun-advertising/).
Volokh went on to analyze the legislation, which he terms an overall “bad proposal” as being unconstitutional on its bans on the use of cartoon characters and stuffed animals by firearms companies and vague as to the standards used to regulate firearm production of youth guns. While he argues that the labeling requirement would likely be constitutional, it could also be very dangerous.
“Most guns would still not be labeled,” writes Volokh. “The more children learn ‘oh, there’s no ‘real gun’ label, this must be a toy,’ the more they will be at risk when they come across a normal gun.”
The bill has been referred to the House Committee on Energy and Commerce

Eric P
07-20-2014, 14:37
It would be curious to see if the Supreme Court would rule that you can't restrict the 1st Amendment when it promotes the 2nd. Completely different than protecting the kiddos from porn and cigarettes.

SuperiorDG
07-20-2014, 14:51
If I hear "common sense" as if we don't need to question these ideas one more time I'm going to puke.

speedysst
07-20-2014, 15:11
If I hear "common sense" as if we don't need to question these ideas one more time I'm going to puke.

^^^This x1000!! Seriously, this kind of crap is what our legislators come up with to combat youth violence? Once again, the bottom of the barrel is moved deeper.

beast556
07-20-2014, 15:12
Sickening!!!

Ah Pook
07-20-2014, 15:14
How many "youth" guns have been used in criminal activity? Sounds like a non-issue some political hack is trying to make into one.

Ronin13
07-20-2014, 15:19
Now they want to ban clothing? WTF? Hi, Congress, I'm the First Amendment, have we met?
47329

Big E3
07-20-2014, 17:22
Oh yeah, another politician from a state where gun crime is out of control, trying to tell the rest of the country how to control gun violence. It's a joke that anybody is even taking her serious. Why doesn't she propose this s#!+ in ILL and if it works there, then approach congress, until then shut the F*#@ up. I'm sick of this "At least I'm trying to do something even if it screws honest people" attitude.

Gman
07-20-2014, 17:31
I'm sick of this "At least I'm trying to do something even if it screws only honest people" attitude.
FIFY

asmo
07-20-2014, 18:01
I have said, more times than I can count, that the anti-gun crowd will eventually win by use the same tactics that were used by the anti-smoking agenda.

Make firearms a pariah, something to look down on, and you will tap into something deep.

KestrelBike
07-20-2014, 18:07
worthless F's.

asmo
07-20-2014, 18:22
Now they want to ban clothing? WTF? Hi, Congress, I'm the First Amendment, have we met?
47329

Actually all they have to show is a substantial government interest in restricting the sale to/for minors. They can get some liberal fuck to say 'this will save children'. Then bam, no first amendment protection.

Again, see the SCOTUS cases dealing with smoking related merchandising.

Hound
07-20-2014, 20:38
If I hear "common sense" as if we don't need to question these ideas one more time I'm going to puke.
Yup....this^^^

Great-Kazoo
07-20-2014, 21:21
you all missed the entire proposed law "she" authored

http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/19/bloombergs-proxy-rep-robin-kelly-of-chicago-releases-congressional-anti-gun-manifesto/


The report also advocates a federal “assault weapon” and “large” magazine ban (http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/fact-sheets/2013/s-150-the-biggest-proposed-gun-and-magazine-ban-in-american-history.aspx?s=s.+150&st=&ps) more severe than the one in effect between 1994 and 2004, gun owner licensing, repealing Stand Your Ground laws, opposing national Right-to-Carry reciprocity, empowering the Consumer Products Safety Commission to regulate the manufacture of firearms, prohibiting unlicensed and mail order ammunition sales, reporting people who purchase 1,000 or more rounds, removing restrictions on public access to BATFE firearm trace data, repealing the federal law that prohibits frivolous lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearm industry, requiring “ballistic fingerprinting,” pursuing “smart” gun technologies, and using taxpayer funds to pay for “research” that promotes gun control.




BLOOMBERG UBER ALLES

Zundfolge
07-20-2014, 21:24
This isn't going anywhere ... its grandstanding to make the dem base happy. That said it does really show their totalitarian impulse and can be used to instruct fence sitters on the evil that is the Democrat party.